If I wipe out on my motorcycle and it “robocalls” I’d want a fast response
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If I wipe out on my motorcycle and it “robocalls” I’d want a fast response
If I'm in an accident I would want a fast response too, and not have to wait for reponders busy trying to help an iPhone crying wolf.
That’s not the case
Any more than the Karen’s calling the cops over their fast food order missing the fries, or the frequent fliers to the ED
Real world though, having a trauma kit and being able to at least somewhat self rescue is useful
I just turned mine off. I don't want my iPhone and Apple Watch calling 911. I'll do that if I need to do it.
To be fair, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on that. That is more a society problem.
Can you still call it "accidentally", if it can even be triggered by a roller coaster ride? Accidents are rare. You do things right 99.9% of the time - like driving your car to work - but sometimes accidents happen.
If emergency services are complaining, the majority of all calls seems to be false. They would not complain if their is one false call for every five legit calls. That would still mean many lives saved and emergency services would not complain. If they complain, there are likely 20 or so false calls for every legit call.
You mean an iPhone owner intentionally letting their iPhone send an emergency message when there is no emergency, and then choosing to not talk to the 911 operator responding to the call and letting them know.
Personal responsibility. Apparently a rare quality/attribute with some people.
That feature drives me nuts. How about a “bob the builder” mode because every time I use a hammer it triggers fall detection or a “ broadway mode” because if I applaud too excitedly at a local theater it triggers fall alert. i guess if I fall off my seat while applauding I’ll appreciate it.
Funny part is, the one time I actually fell off a ladder while getting to the roof of my car to wash it it did NOT trigger fall mode. At my age (75) I hesitate to disable it but it is annoying. Fortunately, only one time I didn’t notice the warning and did let them know there was no issue.
I was chopping logs for the fire and my watch asked if I’d had a fall.
There's a difference between making a false call and making an accidental one.
But we can indeed prove it's saved lives. And since you can't prove that false alarm calls have cost lives, the feature should not be banned or discontinued based on a hypothetical.
False positive call is exactly what Apple's SOS is doing. Accidental call is when you accidentally push 112 with your butt. Not when you program your device to automatically call 112. This is also why IT IS ILLEGAL to sell devices calling emergency services automatically in the Europe (not just 112, this applies to local police, firefighters etc.).
No, we can not prove it saved lives. Not a single case happened somewhere out of civilization when no-one could call emergency themselves without automatic Apple SOS call.
Emergency call centers can quite simply see the increase of the false positive calls after the release of this feature and they indeed know how negatively it affects the call queue. However this information is not available for public. The fact that some statistics are not available for public does not mean it did not cost some lives.
Let's say you mistake firecrackers for gunfire and call your country's emergency number to report what you believe to be gunfire. Is that illegal? Certainly not in the US. If it is in Europe, then that's a terrible law that needs to be changed, otherwise people will be afraid to call when there may be a true emergency. I don't know why the same wouldn't apply to automatic calling in crash-detection situations. Better safe than sorry. And it does have an audible alarm that lets you know it's about to alert emergency services.
On the other hand, calling emergency services to report your McDonald's fires are cold or as a prank SHOULD be punished.
Here are just two examples:
iPhone 14 saves life again, crash detection saves car crash victims from canyon
iPhone 14’s Emergency SOS via Satellite and Crash Detection feature saved car crash victims from serious accident.
tech.hindustantimes.com
Apple iPhone 14 SOS feature saves man’s life in Alaska, rescuers impressed | Mint
On receiving the alert from Apple's Emergency Response Center via iPhone 14, Alaska State Troopers worked with the local search and rescue teams and the Northwest Arctic Borough Search and Rescue Coordinator to rescue the stranded man
www.livemint.com
And another:
Man impulsively bought Apple Watch Series 8, it ended up saving his life after a car crash
A man in the USA survived thanks to the SOS feature in the Apple Watch after he fell unconscious after a car crash. The watch detected the crash and contacted emergency services after finding that the man was not responding to its prompts.
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Maybe try to actually read the articles before using them in the argument. Victims were the ones initiating the call. First two articles are actually about satellite SOS message (initiated by the victim itself). And yes, satellite emergency is a great feature and I never said a word against it. What we argue about is the automatic emergency dial.Here are just two examples:
iPhone 14 saves life again, crash detection saves car crash victims from canyon
iPhone 14’s Emergency SOS via Satellite and Crash Detection feature saved car crash victims from serious accident.
Apple iPhone 14 SOS feature saves man’s life in Alaska, rescuers impressed | Mint
On receiving the alert from Apple's Emergency Response Center via iPhone 14, Alaska State Troopers worked with the local search and rescue teams and the Northwest Arctic Borough Search and Rescue Coordinator to rescue the stranded man
And another:
Man impulsively bought Apple Watch Series 8, it ended up saving his life after a car crash
A man in the USA survived thanks to the SOS feature in the Apple Watch after he fell unconscious after a car crash. The watch detected the crash and contacted emergency services after finding that the man was not responding to its prompts.www.indiatoday.in
And in all three of them victims were conscious and able to place call even without automatic call.
First two do not use automatic call at all.
Thanks for the condescension, but maybe take your own advice?
From the first article:
And from the third article:
If you insist on continuing to be cynical, that's on you. I'm done responding to you. Good day.
From your own article:
And to even further confirm this I searched for other sites covering this exact case:
Source: https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...cue-feature-prompts-challenging-canyon-rescue
Sorry but no. I'm still right. Still no automatic call which would've saved unconscious who otherwise couldn't call help himself. They were clearly conscious and able to call the help themselves. Just like in the last article where iPhone actually did call automatically yet the victim was conscious and could've call the help himself if such feature would not exist.
So clearly still no saved life count. My point stands.
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No, people are not afraid to call emergency services in the Europe. I think you did no read my previous messages correctly. It's okay to call emergency services mistakenly. But you have to make the call manually. It's illegal to create those calls automatically. And that's totally all right.
It's not okay to program your alarm to call cops automatically, that's what private security services are for. Same applies for other emergency services. Yes, better safe than sorry. Better to have your emergency verified by human than have local emergency services overloaded with your broken personal device which creates automatic calls by mistake. (which current iPhones are doing)
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Accidentally dialing 911 is very different to automatically dialing 911. One is a human instigated accident, the other a software bug.
Define emergency services?
Dispatchers are some of the most dysfunctional and separated from logic people you’ll find
That’s as someone who worked EMS