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I think they will have an event for the iMac as they did for the 13” laptops and the mini. The iMac is the machine that “saved” Apple back in the late 90s. Moving it to Apple silicon will not be a stealth launch. It will be quite public.
Yes, that was true. But the iMac and desktops are not as relevant today as they were in the late 90’s. And I do not expect the M1 Macs to sell well at all, as the M1 MacBook Air will still be less expensive and a better choice for most consumers.
 
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This really doesn't bode well for the current MacPro. Was very, very close to pulling the trigger on one, but if that lineup is going to be abandoned too, don't want to be left holding the bag.

Time to start pricing out alternatives .... probably will be a Dell Precision Workstation, again.
 
Yes, that was true. But the iMac and desktops are not as relevant today as they were in the late 90’s. And I do not expect the M1 Macs to sell well at all, as the M1 MacBook Air will still be less expensive and a better choice for most consumers.
They had an event for the mini. The iMac sells way more units than the mini.
 
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This really doesn't bode well for the current MacPro. Was very, very close to pulling the trigger on one, but if that lineup is going to be abandoned too, don't want to be left holding the bag.

Time to start pricing out alternatives .... probably will be a Dell Precision Workstation, again.
I’m a bit confused by this post. Apple has announced they are moving all their Macs to Apple silicon. They are phasing out Intel models. There is no surprise here... All Macs will be running on AppleSilicon soon. They are not abandoning support for Macs you buy today.
 
Chip shortage. Can’t see it getting better anytime soon either.
If Apple wasn't such a douche to solder SSD storage to the logic board in everything now, if they used standard M.2 nvme modules, they could have multiple vendors for parts.

They have so many SKU's for the various combinations of cpu's, memory, graphic card configs, every thing soldered on.

Especially for a desktop computer, where space is not a premium, they can easily be utilized.

But hey, everything to prevent upgrades and cause more landfill material.
 
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I’m a bit confused by this post. Apple has announced they are moving all their Macs to Apple silicon. They are phasing out Intel models. There is no surprise here... All Macs will be running on AppleSilicon soon. They are not abandoning support for Macs you buy today.
Well, with PPC->Intel transition, the PPC's only received one extra major OS version (Leopard). By Snow Leopard, everything was Intel only.

I'm guessing they will be a little more generous this time, maybe precisely due to the Mac Pro and how much money some people have invested in them. I don't think they would want to screw the Pro market a second time around like they did with the Trashcan.
 
Well, with PPC->Intel transition, the PPC's only received one extra major OS version (Leopard). By Snow Leopard, everything was Intel only.

I'm guessing they will be a little more generous this time, maybe precisely due to the Mac Pro and how much money some people have invested in them. I don't think they would want to screw the Pro market a second time around like they did with the Trashcan.
I think people would be better served waiting for the Apple Silicon Mac Pro; I agree.

I was just baffled as to why the poster seemed surprised that Apple is phasing out Intel models, as they previously announced they would, to make way for the Apple Silicon models....
 
Either that, or absolutely no one who buys a 21" iMac ever also orders an SSD upgrade.
Because they could upgrade to a newer SSD themselves far more cheaply? Could be why they started soldering the SSDs in the new MacBook Air...
 
Because they could upgrade to a newer SSD themselves far more cheaply? Could be why they started soldering the SSDs in the new MacBook Air...
because they wanted to spend a lot of money on soldering lest they miss out on that pocket change? They make a tiny percentage of their total profit from MacBook airs in the first place. Even less on people paying for upgrades.
 
All the hate for Fusion drives? I have a late 2013 iMac 14,2 with a 1TB Fusion drive and eight years later it’s still performing perfectly. DriveDX reports the SSD part still has 60% life left. My iMac boots Catalina very fast because of the Fusion drive.
I have a late 2012 iMac with a 1TB Fusion Drive. It's served me well but it's starting to huff and puff and has become audible when it was whisper quiet the previous 8.5 years.

I can't complain as a near decade of trouble free computing is a testament to how damn good iMacs are.
 
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They had an event for the mini. The iMac sells way more units than the mini.
Yes but it was part of the M1 Macbook Pro and Air release event. And also the current Mini at this price point seems very popular.
 
It's not unprecedented because they've killed off many products before with no replacement product immediately ready to go. If you had a new iMac ready to go in less than a month and were forced to choose between re-ordering a million components for a rebuild of an old product or just waiting a few weeks until you announce availability of a new product, you would do what Apple is doing too. Sometimes supply chain timing, pricing and quantities don't line up perfectly for Apple.

Or sometimes your supplier is a real ---- with misleading and desperate commercials against you and you say ok, guess I'll skip the last production extension....
 
Also there is no option to select another drive configuration on the entry level 27ˋ 5K iMac. Only 256GB SSD available here in Germany.
Same in the UK, I just checked. It does smack of all 3 21.5" SKUs and the base 27" SKU going away with the M1X refresh because restricting BTO storage options looks harsh. If they are instead prioritising a limited amount of SSD storage for the higher margin products it might also be a thing but it might discourage buyers.

Just like with the laptops Apple could leave the high end Intel SKUs for another year for more profit - I would imagine this means a single size screen for ARM iMac to replace all 4 Intel SKUs whenever refresh day is.

A pre-WWDC refresh would also give devs something to talk about too.
 
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I would expect them to simplify the range, something like this, phasing both the 21” 4K and 27” 5k versions out and replacing them with these

-iMac 24” with either a M1 (keep the price down for people who want a cheap desktop) and a M1X chip, probably 12 core

- iMac 31~” or thereabouts with a M1X probably 12 core again same as 24” version, and a high end version with new chip design from the M1X, maybe called M2 with 16 cores.
 
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Apple does not have a history of new designs+new architecture.

The powerpc transition saw first gen chips in existing designs.

Intel transition saw first core chips in existing designs.

The last thing you want to do is introduce a new architecture and a new design at the same time and then be unsure of where the bugs are coming from.
 
Same in the UK, I just checked. It does smack of all 3 21.5" SKUs and the base 27" SKU going away with the M1X refresh because restricting BTO storage options looks harsh.

The current base 27" iMac never has had an option for larger SSD.
 

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I would expect them to simplify the range, something like this, phasing both the 21” 4K and 27” 5k versions out and replacing them with these

-iMac 24” with either a M1 (keep the price down for people who want a cheap desktop) and a M1X chip, probably 12 core

- iMac 31~” or thereabouts with a M1X probably 12 core again same as 24” version, and a high end version with new chip design from the M1X, maybe called M2 with 16 cores.
Or iMac 24” as the only option, and a mini Pro (2x height) with 27”ish and 32”ish Apple monitors available
 
Apple does not have a history of new designs+new architecture.

The powerpc transition saw first gen chips in existing designs.

Intel transition saw first core chips in existing designs.

The last thing you want to do is introduce a new architecture and a new design at the same time and then be unsure of where the bugs are coming from.
Excellent point, Kramer.
 
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I would expect them to simplify the range, something like this, phasing both the 21” 4K and 27” 5k versions out and replacing them with these

-iMac 24” with either a M1 (keep the price down for people who want a cheap desktop) and a M1X chip, probably 12 core

- iMac 31~” or thereabouts with a M1X probably 12 core again same as 24” version, and a high end version with new chip design from the M1X, maybe called M2 with 16 cores.
I'd be happy with a 24" iMac. I'd opt for a higher end CPU if given an option and have at least 32GB RAM & 2TB storage. My current iMac has lasted me 9 years so I'd be speccing the new one to last as long as possible.
 
Yes but it was part of the M1 Macbook Pro and Air release event. And also the current Mini at this price point seems very popular.
I didn’t say they would have a separate event for the iMac. It might very well be a shared event for iMac and MacBook Pro.

I believe that there will be an event in which the new iMac is featured, probably alongside at least one other type of Apple Silicon Mac. It’s not going to be one of those situations where you wake up on a random Tuesday and see Apple Silicon iMacs on the bottom of Apple.com.

The Mac mini might seem popular at the moment, but the iMac is a far more popular purchase, and that’s not likely to change anytime soon. They let the Mac mini go years without updates, but they always kept up with at least some speed bumps on iMacs.
 
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If Apple wasn't such a douche to solder SSD storage to the logic board in everything now, if they used standard M.2 nvme modules, they could have multiple vendors for parts.

They have so many SKU's for the various combinations of cpu's, memory, graphic card configs, every thing soldered on.

Especially for a desktop computer, where space is not a premium, they can easily be utilized.

But hey, everything to prevent upgrades and cause more landfill material.
I just picked up a Surface Pro 7+ LTE, and it has a little door you can pop open with a SIM tool and use standard 2230 m.2 cards. I upgraded it to 1TB.

All laptops should be able to do that. RAM could be done that way too, but most laptop makers won't do it.
 
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