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I would probably have bought one if there was a battery included, so that I can move it with me around the house and perhaps outside, like many portable speakers.
 
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I have 9 throughout the house and play music constantly (bedroom, kitchen, dining, living, office, garage/gym). As someone mentioned they’d be $200 a few times per year at Best Buy.

For its small footprint, ease of use w/ Apple Music, big/full sound, sale price, I didn’t think there was much competition.

My alternative would likely be integrating dumb speakers with Denon HEOS (have receiver for HT). B&O, Devialet and some other drool worthy options get pricey. Sonos 5 doesn’t get me excited at $500 but maybe it should.

I’d understand U1 update w/ Max branding. They just released AirPods Max (and 6k display) that fit in between consumer and high-end pro markets. To discontinue this without successor seems a little incongruent with Apple - and missed opportunity at upgrade.
 
I love my stereo pair. I use them exclusively for playing music, for which they are great. MUCH better than the HomePod Mini, it’s night and day. I like my HomePod Mini though, in a small room it’s fine.

Siri is as dumb as a bunch of rocks, I can imagine my very positive opinion of them being different if I used them as a hub etc.

I’ll happily use the big HomePods for years, the only bummer will be if they break. What to replace them with, hmm.
 
Not surprised to be honest - although I actually think part of the issue is Apple being late to the party (and still not fully arrived) in terms of Home Automation and HomeKit being (still) a closed platform.
 
SOooooo do we think these are likely to go on sale places or best to snap one up from Apple now (UK based).

Also, what a shame that you can have all the HomePod Minis in the world but you're not going to get any bass on your movies.

I thought two HomePods + 4 HomePod mini was the future of the Apple TV immersive experience.
I just bought one full price from John Lewis. If a 2021 HomePod is released on March 23rd then you’re still within the return window. Likewise if there is a fire sale price drop JL will either likely honour it or you can return it and buy it cheaper elsewhere.
Gamble but worth it if you want another.

Oh, and agreed on Mini. I previously bought two and ended up returning them. Sound quality on the Mini is sadly garbage.
 
To me, that doesn‘t come by surprise. Anyone who values good audio knows that the HomePod‘s oversaturated bass levels quite effectively battles away harder-to-hear frequencies and subtle instruments and audio details. I live together with musicians and they really hate that thing, and so do I.
Yes, the rest of the sound is rather well rendered but the bass destroys everything from scratch.
I'm really not sure what you're talking about regarding excessive Bass levels. The HomePod struggles with bass frequencies below ~40 Hz. That said, overall the HomePod EQ is awfully close to a Harman curve, which is the "ideal sound" that most high end speaker systems try to achieve. Personally, I think the sound is focused, tight, and balanced, and I've heard all kinds of details in music that I never could in the past. Before HomePod you would have had to spend significantly more money to get a system with such a good frequency response and EQ.
 
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He has another thread where he claims the future is going to be mixed reality headsets. I’m not convinced most people are going to want to sit in front of their TV wearing goggles or headsets. But I do think he’s right that what people want with premium sound in the home are sound bars/home theater systems. I wish Apple would have gone the sound bar route.

100% agree. It's why I went Sonos. Premium product, really good sound, expandable with subs, surrounds, soundbar etc and integrates well with the Apple Ecosystem and many, many others.
 
Your understanding of economics is terrible.
My economics of understanding may be terrible but look.


HomePods are the only speaker that Apple has mad to have Dolby Atmos. We can't let that get taken away. the HomePod has way better base and fillings than the HomePod mini. The big HomePod may be expensive but it definitely has better sound quality and more fillings.
 
This is really disappointing, as others have said. I currently have two full-sized HomePods as a stereo pair in my living room for my TV, and I love them. They fill the entire room with sound. I have two HomePod minis in my bedroom as a stereo pair for that TV, but I can't set them as the default audio out. I'm hoping Apple at least gives us the ability to do that with two HomePod minis as a pair.
 
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This is terrible news!

I have been waiting for an introduction in Sweden for years, was expecting to buy four of them as soon as that happened.

Hopefully there’s more to this story, just waiting to be released.
 
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I expect they'll release a hi-end HomePod (i.e. HomePod Max) which will essentially be a replacement for the original HomePod and make the mini the standard model.

No change overall, but better marketing. The original HomePod might have been worth its price, but releasing it first and marketing it as the standard model put it in competition with the Amazon's Echo and Google's Nest instead of it's true competitors like Sonos.
If the issue is the original homepod doesn’t sell well because of the price, I don’t think they’ll just switch names and be done with it.
 
Sadly I agree with Ben here. I can’t remember the last time I used my Apple TV box. I have a Roku TV and watch everything through that. What’s the point of the Apple TV box now that smart TVs are so cheap and most of them now include the TV app?


Privacy and integration with the rest of the ecosystem, I suppose.

With news of how many smart TVs phone home with data on how you use your smart TV, relying on an Apple TV to provide the “smarts” while keeping your TV disconnected from the internet is not an unwise choice.

Then there are also the Apple TV apps which tie in with my other apple devices, such as TV+ / arcade / music / podcasts / photos / airplay mirroring. For a while, Apple TV was also one of the few ways one could catch Apple keynotes.

The 5th gen, with its 3gb ram and A10X processor, also remains speedy enough in everyday usage. I may also be one of those oddballs who actually likes using the Apple TV remote. It’s small and slim and light and I can readily scrub through content with it.

Granted, it’s more pricey than the other alternatives, but for something I bought in 2017, seems like a small price to pay for all these benefits amortised over 4-6 years.
 
Not sure why people think discontinued HomePod = same fate for AirPods max. They are more expensive and have been sold out for months. Homepods have never been sold out.
We all know they’ve been sold out because there weren’t many made.
 
Apple need to be more transparent about how long they intend to support this thing, I can see the servers being shut down and it just working as a dumb airplay speaker in future.
If these keep working for another 10-15 years as dumb airplay speakers then I'll be thrilled. They sound awesome.
 
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Didn't see that coming! If expensive audio gear isn't going to sell well for apple I wonder how the AirPods Max will do over time.
 
Not surprised. Apple has been notoriously uncommitted to home audio products, often lacking any follow-through, going back decades.

I don’t know how anyone would expect to take them seriously or consider investing in a home audio system based around their products.
 
Losing a lot of faith in Apple lately. They ask us to invest ridiculous sums in these products in the first place, they never supported HomePod well to begin with, and how do we really think software updates and issues will go down the line now? Extremely disappointing.
 
Didn't see that coming! If expensive audio gear isn't going to sell well for apple I wonder how the AirPods Max will do over time.

The writing was on the wall very early on, this Mark Gurman article is from two months after launch

 
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