I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
Apple isn't being very customer service friendly, your customers obviously want to download files and watch them.
They're gonna start to jump ship, which I'll be doing.
The big surprise for me was that they were still making it. Good riddance, pretty much, but I still miss its Netflix app where you could browse by category. The ATV4 version lacks this key feature. At first I thought this was due to some makeshift version having been rushed out in time for the ATV4 introduction, but here we are one year later and all the content is still in a giant unsorted pile. I sure hope grocery stores don't adapt the ATV4 Netflix model and have some guy stop you at the entrance and go
They should have discontinued it the second they released Apple Music and decided that it wouldn't be supported on Apple TV 3.
If you think of all the possibilities with the world-class engineers that Apple has and it's A-series SoCs (the A10 is just a beast) and it's IMGTec PowerVR IP, they could easily deliver the best TV experience anyone has ever seen. Apple to this day does not have any 4K content, nor do they even use HEVC (supposedly because there is still the ongoing patent dispute), which really hurts the industry as a whole.Apple missed the boat on TV because it failed to revolutionize the industry like they said they would. Why would I buy an Apple TV when I can get a small chromecast dongle at a fraction of the price that delivers the content I need? At least Google opens it up a bit so you can download third party applications to stream from sites like vodlocker and choose how you want to use it.
Sometimes I think Apple should just pack it in with this and other useless items (ie. iwatch) and refocus on the products that they do well. Having to wait this long for mac upgrades while they continue to charge the same prices is disgusting.
I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
Apple isn't being very customer service friendly, your customers obviously want to download files and watch them.
They're gonna start to jump ship, which I'll be doing.
I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
Apple isn't being very customer service friendly, your customers obviously want to download files and watch them.
They're gonna start to jump ship, which I'll be doing.
I'll continue to use my Apple TV 3 until it passes on. Does everything I need it to.
I still used my ATV2 regularly until just recently when we cut the cord and switched to Playstation Vue. We had to buy Fire Sticks. The ATV is still a better device. Hopefully they will continue adding channels/apps as they can because it's still a strong device.
What Apple needs to do to stop the whole concept of AirPlay becoming obsolete...
1. Introduce an audio only AirPlay device that can plug into stereo systems by way of 3.5mm audio jack. This would compete directly against the Chromecast audio
3.5mm audio jack???? I hope you mean for HDMI 2.0. Nobody uses analog stereo anymore, it sounds horrible.
2. Introduce a basic video streaming stick. Basically all the dumb parts of the apple TV such as airplay mirroring and sending a stream to the device. No complex UI and menu system, just a receiver.
There are option like Beamer app, the TV becomes just a simple receiver, you are not actually using it as Beamer runs on your computer.
3. Lower the price of the Apple TV4 to £99
Always good!
4. Introduce a 4K Apple TV5 to placate the spec chasers. Also all of Netflix and Amazon original content will be available in 4K
Hope for the same
5. Introduce some sort of Echo/Google Home competitor that can live on the living room table or kitchen or bedroom etc. This can be linked into the Apple ecosystem allowing Siri to control the AppleTVs in the house as well as all the fancy Home.app stuff
Don't get this one. As the current ATV uses bluetooth you can put it anywhere you want. The ATV3 used infra red, so it needed to be in sight. My ATV4 is just behind my AV Receiver; completely invisible. There is a home-kit app for the AT4 to control fancy stuff.
Lastly... and not part of Airplay so not included in this list above. Introduce a new cheaper Airport with mesh compatibility. Perhaps you need to have one master airport Extreme and then you can buy mini airport Express devices to build a mesh in your home/office.
Apple make great devices but there's more to our lives now than smartphones and tablets.
How original. Another MacBook comment to add to the thread.
How original. Another apologist chiming in to defend Apple's inability to get products out the door.
MacBooks pros... Someday.
What Apple needs to do to stop the whole concept of AirPlay becoming obsolete...
1. Introduce an audio only AirPlay device that can plug into stereo systems by way of 3.5mm audio jack. This would compete directly against the Chromecast audio
2. Introduce a basic video streaming stick. Basically all the dumb parts of the apple TV such as airplay mirroring and sending a stream to the device. No complex UI and menu system, just a receiver.
3. Lower the price of the Apple TV4 to £99
4. Introduce a 4K Apple TV5 to placate the spec chasers. Also all of Netflix and Amazon original content will be available in 4K
5. Introduce some sort of Echo/Google Home competitor that can live on the living room table or kitchen or bedroom etc. This can be linked into the Apple ecosystem allowing Siri to control the AppleTVs in the house as well as all the fancy Home.app stuff
Lastly... and not part of Airplay so not included in this list above. Introduce a new cheaper Airport with mesh compatibility. Perhaps you need to have one master airport Extreme and then you can buy mini airport Express devices to build a mesh in your home/office.
Apple make great devices but there's more to our lives now than smartphones and tablets.
I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
Apple isn't being very customer service friendly, your customers obviously want to download files and watch them.
They're gonna start to jump ship, which I'll be doing.
Why would you bother doing that when there are plenty of great video apps in the AppleTV app store (e.g. Infuse) that will play any video type you can throw at them?I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
I disagree. They need a cheaper option for those that just want to use it for AirPlay, and now that option is no longer available.
Right, like they do with the iPhone.
Looks like a new Apple TV is on the way.
Hmmm...MacBook ProSeems fair. They've made quite a fuzz about their latest product, and moving forward this makes sense. Thumbsup Apple. it has been quite a few years already, and people expect it to act like the 4th one and I think they rather let customers invest in a newer and more expensive device, than waste money on post-sales questions.
Then make a cheaper version of the 4th gen with somewhat better SoC and the App Store. Or go all the way
Ironically my Amazon Fire Stick works well for that. Got it for €20 back when it got introduced and I thought I'd give it a shot.
Don't care too much about the Apple TV anymore, especially considering their low effort shot at homeshared media on it.
Yes Apple, great idea: keep showing me how staying in your ecosystem isn't a no-brainer anymore.
Have my reconsider my options more strongly when a device upgrade comes around.
I'm sure that's your best interest.
Glassed Silver:ios
I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
Apple isn't being very customer service friendly, your customers obviously want to download files and watch them.
They're gonna start to jump ship, which I'll be doing.
Sidestepping the obvious piracy angle here, what are you playing on your Kodi that Plex can't play?
I _think_ they're planning on a next gen before Christmas, so the 4th gen will take up the lower tier, and a new device (5th gen) will be the high end model. I'd assume 4K, maybe a processor update, and heck, I'm not even sure what else (outside of software improvements **) they can do to a media device..
I questioned why I even bought the ATV 4 when it's so locked down and side-loading kodi once a week just to watch other files types.
Apple isn't being very customer service friendly, your customers obviously want to download files and watch them.
They're gonna start to jump ship, which I'll be doing.