Exept when all the content for iTunes that are produced on XServes stop to flow, and the backbone that keeps the iDevice alive is killed (or seriously damaged) by this move!
Congratulations Apple - you just killed your own success!!
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Apple Discontinues Xserve, Only Available Until January 31st
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Exept when all the content for iTunes that are produced on XServes stop to flow, and the backbone that keeps the iDevice alive is killed (or seriously damaged) by this move!
Congratulations Apple - you just killed your own success!!
Thats not how the computer business works though.
If you were talking about a car company discontinuing a line of cars I would agree with you 100%, not being able to buy a Mercury doesn't interfere with my ability to operate a Taurus. The two aren't integrated in any meaningful way.
However when it comes to computers everything is interconnected. Not having XServed DOES negatively impact my ability to run a network full of mac pros. Since I don't have the server anymore, I'm much less inclined to buy the client. Since I don't have the clients anymore, I'm much less inclined to buy the phone etc.
Whats so shocking about this is that this is where Apple had historically shined. They were able to get the total package, one stop shopping as it were.
Their server products are fine as long as you're running the 32 bit versions. The 64 bit versions suck hard. We ran both at my last company. Never had a problem with the 32 bit server products. It was always the 64 bit ones.
We too had major issues with 64 bit. Especially with our exchange servers. 32 bit is pretty good but the 64 bit is not ready for serious business use. MS support even eluded to that.
Shell-shocked. LOM.
I'm an apple certified system administrator and make my living building and administering solutions around Xserves. My customers are in film/pr/design and range from 1-50 users. I don't know how to react to this. I'm shocked.
No matter how you twist and bend the situation, the fact remains that this is a huge problem for Apples existing enterprise customers, and a huge punch in the face.
(How do you solve LOM with a Mac Pro or a Mac Mini, for one? Power redundancy?)
I'm an apple certified system administrator and make my living building and administering solutions around Xserves. My customers are in film/pr/design and range from 1-50 users. I don't know how to react to this. I'm shocked.
No matter how you twist and bend the situation, the fact remains that this is a huge problem for Apples existing enterprise customers, and a huge punch in the face.
(How do you solve LOM with a Mac Pro or a Mac Mini, for one? Power redundancy?)
Which ones would those be? Seriously. Most Apple customers likely don't even know what an XServe is. XServe certainly wasn't the core of Mac or OS X development, so I'm confused as to how XServe held the rest of Apple's bigger sales volume products together. Mac sales are up but because the iPod/iPhone have lead people back to the Apple Stores & also because a lot of people are tired of Win.
You make a point about the difference. But I think Apple may be considering the mac mini server as the future replacement. For under $100 you can get a rack mount tray to hold four of these.
I'm just speculating, but Apple likes to change the way we do things from time to time. It might be they are looking at their product line and thinking that there is no need for the xserve since the mac mini is so small that it can serve the needs of individuals needing just one or organizations needing server farms. Cutting out a product line would save Apple money.
If I'm correct, then there will be a lot of people upset because of what they expect a rack mounted server to look like. It will take time for some to come around to the idea that mounting four mac minis on a tray and hard drives on another is acceptable. People are creatures of habit for the most part.
Uh, you're talking to the wrong crowd here. Most of the people here still think a "phone" that can't make calls is somehow the best thing on the planet.
Per the job posting they wanted qualified OS X, linux, and Solaris guys for the NC gig.
And durable as all hell. We have a ton of XServes where I work and none have broken. None. One even managed to get airbourne(long story), crashed from about 3 meters off the ground and still works. Metal is a little bent and the drives are hard to get out, but the beast still works.
I cannot count how many Dell servers we have had break during the same time period.
An Xserve wasn't a computer ? Really ?
Considering everything from your car's ECU to a full blown multi-core Cray XE6 chassis are computers, with everything in the middle like TI programmable calculators and smartphones also being computers, what exactly is it about the Xserve that makes you say it wasn't a computer ?
The post I was replying to said something like this:
"This is just more evidence Apple are abandoning computer users in favour of iOS devices" (though of course it was more inflamatory and full of hyperbole.) I don't know if you or someone else wrote that comment.
In the context of that post, Xserve is not a computer, it's a server. The OP clearly doesn't think iOS devices are computers. I don't think anyone has an Xserve under their desk.
Mac Pro Server
Am i wrong, or Apple just added a server config to Mac Pro?!
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_pro
Am i wrong, or Apple just added a server config to Mac Pro?!
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_pro
I feel for ya. I work IT for a school district and we have 8 Xserves and 4 Mini servers running. I don't want our next purchase to involve shoving Mac Pros into a rack.
I think you're right -- I definitely don't remember seeing that before (though you've always been able to choose OS X Server in the BTO screen).
Sorry to say, you were on the wrong side of the biz to begin with. If you didn't see this coming for the past few years then you have my sympathies.
See here for your future:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596009526
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/mcsa.aspx
Or just develop apps for iOS. If you're any good you'll make money.
Good luck!
you must be doing something wrong. we've run 64 bit SQL 2005 for a few years and except for a few issues it has been awesome and has saved us A LOT of money
Since Apple permits OSX Server Edition to run in a Virtual Environment, there isn't much impact for large users of Xserve 1U's.
You can buy much faster, cheaper, industry standard 1U's with more features than an Xserve for half the cost.
Put a rack (or 1000 racks) of those cheap 1U's in your data center. Run VMWare, or your favorite hypervisor flavor, and make as many OSX Server virtual machines as you want.
There is no special port, or "reality field compensator" gadget in the Xserve hardware. So, regular Intel based 1U rack mountable servers are just as good.
Now, the cool thing is, you can take your rack of 10 servers, and decide that today you'll have 5 large Linux servers, and 20 medium OSX servers. Yeah, see what I did there? In virtualization, your number of virtual servers depends on utilization, not physical hardware. Later that week, someone wants to test out a new customer service Wiki, so you click a couple buttons and magically, 1 small OSX server is added to your virtual pool for testing the new Wiki. No need to rack and spin up a new server.
Virtualization is powerful, cost efficient, and means expensive special built rack mountable servers are obsolete. Fill your data center with the cheapest, fastest, redundant commodity hardware. Then add as many servers as you need running what ever operating system supports your apps.
You can buy much faster, cheaper, industry standard 1U's with more features than an Xserve for half the cost.
Put a rack (or 1000 racks) of those cheap 1U's in your data center. Run VMWare, or your favorite hypervisor flavor, and make as many OSX Server virtual machines as you want.
There is no special port, or "reality field compensator" gadget in the Xserve hardware. So, regular Intel based 1U rack mountable servers are just as good.
Now, the cool thing is, you can take your rack of 10 servers, and decide that today you'll have 5 large Linux servers, and 20 medium OSX servers. Yeah, see what I did there? In virtualization, your number of virtual servers depends on utilization, not physical hardware. Later that week, someone wants to test out a new customer service Wiki, so you click a couple buttons and magically, 1 small OSX server is added to your virtual pool for testing the new Wiki. No need to rack and spin up a new server.
Virtualization is powerful, cost efficient, and means expensive special built rack mountable servers are obsolete. Fill your data center with the cheapest, fastest, redundant commodity hardware. Then add as many servers as you need running what ever operating system supports your apps.