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Apple Distributing New Heated Display Removal Machine for iPhone 12 Repairs

Madonepro said:
Yeah I don’t get why they get so irate about it. Yeah sure laptops and desktops should be upgradable, but phones?
Somethings should just be left to experts, not users. Batteries are a grey area, but to get better battery life, companies have integrated them into their devices instead of providing hardware infrastructure to swap them in and out.
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There’s nothing that prevent them from making these phones more repairable (including just straight up selling the parts and tools people need to repair them). But then they’d make less from AppleCare and out of warranty repairs.

I agree with Apple on a lot of the things they do, but the way they actively make devices less repairable and even put DRM into components like batteries is outright hostile.
 
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boss.king said:
But then they’d make less from AppleCare and out of warranty repairs.
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Apple was always against tinkering and DYI, it's the Jobs philosophy that has permeated the company since the dawn of time. They want full control over the user experience, which includes a strong grip on the hardware.
 
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Apple was always against tinkering and DYI, it's the Jobs philosophy that has permeated the company since the dawn of time. They want full control over the user experience, which includes a strong grip on the hardware.
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And yet it’s post-Jobs that they’re taking active steps that they don’t need to take in order to lock down devices.
 
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As someone who repairs broken screens for friends on a regular basis, no, this is nothing new. Heating up the edges of the screen before separating it from the chassis has been a thing since the 6 because of the adhesive gasket that acts as water proofing. It is in no way a hindrance to third party repairs.
 
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Madonepro said:
Yeah I don’t get why they get so irate about it. Yeah sure laptops and desktops should be upgradable, but phones?
Somethings should just be left to experts, not users. Batteries are a grey area, but to get better battery life, companies have integrated them into their devices instead of providing hardware infrastructure to swap them in and out.
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Have you visited their website and actually LOOKED through it? Ifixit is all about right to repair EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. From phones to laptops to kitchen appliances and medical equipment, their pages and forums are full of repair guides and how to’s, as well places to ask questions in general in regards to repair techniques and philosophies. Yes they run a business through the site that pays for the site itself, but none of the content is locked behind any sort of a paywall and you don’t have to purchase your parts and tools from the website to access their online resources.
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farewelwilliams said:
If you're advocating for RIGHT TO REPAIR, you're advocating for chunky, horrible looking phones.

No thanks. I prefer Apple overnighting me a new iPhone and I just send mines back whenever I'm ready. Free under warranty.
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No, no you’re not. That’s not how it works at all.
 
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The only thing that really pisses me off about iPhone durability nowadays is the fragile glass used on the back and how freaking expensive it is to fix it. Otherwise I’d go caseless. Why no ceramic shield covering the entire phone if the whole thing is glass?
 
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boss.king said:
If you’re gonna lie so blatantly, you could at least be creative with it. Why not tell us that the right to repair movement is teaching us to fix phones as back door training to care for robot overlords or something?
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What a stupid comment.

A right to repair means iPhones would likely cost more to make and would change their design. You're forcing millions of people to suffer simply because you want to repair a phone yourself, either to save money or just because you want to. Screw that.
 
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robfoll said:
iFixit only cares about iFixit. Right To Repair is a very bad joke when it comes to highly complex, incredibly physically dense electronics like an iPhone. 'Repairable' phones would cost more, be bulkier, and lose water resistance.
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Thank you. Finally someone who gets it. “Right to repair” doesn’t mean it will be repaired back to the same original state. That’s why Apple sets meticulously high standards for its repairpeople. I wouldn’t trust Joe’s screen repair to fix my $1000 phone and trust it retains that 6m 30minute water resistance afterwards. Nope
 
Back in the day... they had real respect for the DIY’ers... have at it.

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farewelwilliams said:
What a stupid comment.

A right to repair means iPhones would likely cost more to make and would change their design. You're forcing millions of people to suffer simply because you want to repair a phone yourself, either to save money or just because you want to. Screw that.
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it’s weird that you could get the concept so wrong even when the facts are a Google search away.

Right to repair means that (in this case) Apple would make tools and parts available for purchase so you could fix them yourself or get a non Apple Authorised store to do repairs for you, and stop putting in measure that are simply designed to make repairs harder without serving any useful purpose.

No ones saying they have to make the phone out of modular parts like a hunk of lego.

And you’d still be able to overpay for repairs directly from Apple, so you don’t even have to worry. It literally wouldn’t affect you or your phone.
 
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I’m waiting for the jokes that Zack (JerryRigEverything) will make about this “new revolutionary iPhone repair machine” as he proceeds to use a heat gun to accomplish the same thing.
 
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boss.king said:
Right to repair means that (in this case) Apple would make tools and parts available for purchase so you could fix them yourself or get a non Apple Authorised store to do repairs for you, and stop putting in measure that are simply designed to make repairs harder without serving any useful purpose.
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That sounds like it could get Apple in trouble; what is Apple doing along these lines?
 
boss.king said:
There’s nothing that prevent them from making these phones more repairable (including just straight up selling the parts and tools people need to repair them). But then they’d make less from AppleCare and out of warranty repairs.

I agree with Apple on a lot of the things they do, but the way they actively make devices less repairable and even put DRM into components like batteries is outright hostile.
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Pieces of electrical equipment should never be able to be repaired by an individual, who is not qualified to do it. Repairability is one thing, and one thing that should be left for professionals to do.
 
boss.king said:
it’s weird that you could get the concept so wrong even when the facts are a Google search away.

Right to repair means that (in this case) Apple would make tools and parts available for purchase so you could fix them yourself or get a non Apple Authorised store to do repairs for you, and stop putting in measure that are simply designed to make repairs harder without serving any useful purpose.

No ones saying they have to make the phone out of modular parts like a hunk of lego.

And you’d still be able to overpay for repairs directly from Apple, so you don’t even have to worry. It literally wouldn’t affect you or your phone.
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No. You're not thinking how Apple would approach this. Play it out.

It would cost Apple resources to scale up production of the tools such as heated display removal and to provide support for it. Ok, maybe Apple will simply sell this at an extremely high cost to make up for it. Combine that with the effort to replace difficult parts would drive up third party services way up and third party services would cut corners to make up for all of this. This causes customers to quickly blame Apple for a low quality product *AND* high service costs. We've already seen third party parts cause Apple products to catch fire/explode where the customer blamed Apple for it. Right to repair would only magnify this problem.

Assuming right to repair is a law, it's likely Tim would be forced to change the design to make it easier to repair.

No thanks to right to repair. What a stupid idea. We need to shut the idea down of making this into a law. Would hinder future products in ways you haven't realized yet.
 
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This is totally confusing. I reckon the phone shouldn’t generally need repair. But if so, love lift us up where we belong...
 
The ifixit comment is just ridiculous. You can still fix it anyway, there shouldn’t be made ever any compromises on design to improve repairability.
 
Someone must have invented a remarkable suction cup that works on a cracked screen! BTW, I have never used heat to open iPhones. Isopropyl is the go.
 
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