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So - car-owners should also be able to repair their own cars? and people with pacemakers should also be able to repair their own pacemakers? never have i heard anything that ridiculous.

What an ignorant comment. You do realize there are other companies then apple that are perfectly capable of doing repairs on advanced electronics? Look at some of Louis Rossmann's videos on youtube to get an understanding what this is about (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2mFZoRqjw_ELax4Yisf6w) His videos are also entertaining and educational to watch when he troubleshoots mac hardware.

This isn't about making Joe Schmoe being able to repair his phone, but other professional companies (then Apple) to perform repairs on Apple equipment as these guys have a hard time sourcing components to do so. Many companies are even better then Apple themselves when it comes to repairs...
 
I can’t see anything wrong with this. It sounds like it’s the best way to make an iPhone, not a way to stop 3rd party repairers (of course excluding conspiracy theorists points of view)

Agree, a lot of car light have been made like this for years too. With the rear DBS lights, I've had to put them in the oven to replace the damn sealant on both sides now.... the joys!
 
Yeah I don’t get why they get so irate about it. Yeah sure laptops and desktops should be upgradable, but phones?
Somethings should just be left to experts, not users. Batteries are a grey area, but to get better battery life, companies have integrated them into their devices instead of providing hardware infrastructure to swap them in and out.

Please remember one thing.
Not all "Experts" would wish to work in an Apple Repair store.

Some may be "Too Expert" to wish to do that, and do it themselves.
Often/most times the most clever people are not the ones wishing a mundane job working for someone else.

It's why we have all seen independent people showing what a poor job, so called "official company repair experts" have done, as they are just going to work for someone else, and just a job.
 
Please remember one thing.
Not all "Experts" would wish to work in an Apple Repair store.

Some may be "Too Expert" to wish to do that, and do it themselves.
Often/most times the most clever people are not the ones wishing a mundane job working for someone else.

It's why we have all seen independent people showing what a poor job, so called "official company repair experts" have done, as they are just going to work for someone else, and just a job.
Why do I need to told to remember one thing, and that wasn't one thing either.
I am entitled to an opinion, if I believe some young kid, who drops his iPhone, should not have that device built, so that he can replace the screen themselves, then that's my belief.
 
So - car-owners should also be able to repair their own cars? and people with pacemakers should also be able to repair their own pacemakers? never have i heard anything that ridiculous.
Yeah, because swaping a broken display or drained battery is equal to servicing life supporting electronics.
 
Yeah I don’t get why they get so irate about it. Yeah sure laptops and desktops should be upgradable, but phones?
Somethings should just be left to experts, not users. Batteries are a grey area, but to get better battery life, companies have integrated them into their devices instead of providing hardware infrastructure to swap them in and out.
Everything that has limited functional life such as battery should be replacable. On phones, laptops, planes and rockets. Even if not user-replacable, it should be rather straight forward task for average electronic technician.

What you CANT do as a manufacturer is designing a product in a way that you and only you are capable of doing even minor repairs.
 
The ifixit comment is just ridiculous. You can still fix it anyway, there shouldn’t be made ever any compromises on design to improve repairability.
You can only fix it if you can get parts. But Apple won't sell parts and works hard to block any sort of sourcing wherever they can.
 
Everything that has limited functional life such as battery should be replacable. On phones, laptops, planes and rockets. Even if not user-replacable, it should be rather straight forward task for average electronic technician.

What you CANT do as a manufacturer is designing a product in a way that you and only you are capable of doing even minor repairs.
Like Apple sabotaging the installation of batteries on iPhone 8 and onwards? Hiding the adhesive tabs so as to make location and removal hazardous for the layman! Someone should start a class acton for this act of bastardary!
 
Hey, something must have been lost in translation, but I am pretty sure in the video the guy said that he heated it up for 3 minutes on the heating pad before taking apart the phone........
 
This isn't about making Joe Schmoe being able to repair his phone, but other professional companies (then Apple) to perform repairs on Apple equipment as these guys have a hard time sourcing components to do so. Many companies are even better then Apple themselves when it comes to repairs...

The right to repair-movement champions that everyone, including people with no hands, should have a right under the law, to buy any tool, part, plans, diagrams and instructions necessary to repair anything they own.

The only limitation they want to this right is if there is a direct, high probability of this creating safety problems. And even then they want the restrictions to only apply to those repairs and all other repairs to the same object should be allowed with the manufacturer providing everything necessary to do so.

I am not aware that this movement wants to limit repairs to companies or to certain products.

Let's say you buy this chair (https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/renberget-swivel-chair-bomstad-black-50332238/) at IKEA. After 2 years one the handle that makes you lower/rise the chair. IKEA should then under force of law be required to sell a replacement handle and all tools and manuals to fix it. If the supporting frame (which the wheels are connected to) bends, again IKEA must allow replacement parts to be bought and all tools necessary to remove the sitting part of the chair to move it over to the new supporting steel frame.

Or do you disagree?
 
Be interesting to see what iFixit make of this...
iFixit has been selling solutions to remove adhesive mounted displays for years. They're basically sacks of material you heat up in a microwave, then place on the device to heat. Then use a suction cup to aid in opening the device. They even provide those in a $5 kit when you buy a replacement battery or display (or others parts requiring opening a device). I carefully use a hot-air gun (set to a low temp) to soften battery adhesive before removing the adhesive strips. I'll probably buy one of the iFixit "bags" for my next repair though. It would just be less work.
 
Pieces of electrical equipment should never be able to be repaired by an individual, who is not qualified to do it. Repairability is one thing, and one thing that should be left for professionals to do.

Not a convincing analogy. What about cars? Far more deadly than a hand-held piece of electronics. Yet if you buy a car, there is no reason you can't take it to an independent mechanic. Or open the hood yourself.

Apple acts like you are leasing devices from them. Which is an arrangement that would well for a lot of people, especially corporate clients. But if I do BUY a computer, do I not own the thing as much as I own any tool?

This is a reason to consider the ease of replacing parts in, say, Lenovo or Dell. You can actually put in your own memory and M2 drives in many models. Granted, the quality and experience is not the same, so it's not an absolute. It's not that Apple is purely wrong while others are correct. All manufacturers seem to dance around how much modularity they want to allow on their devices.

It becomes intolerable when a company releases a defective product and charges high rates to fix that defect. Apple has arguably done this a few times.
 
Gotta be the most baffling piece of news in a while. Apple, like every single other hardware manufacturer, has specialized repair tools for their devices. WOW better publish this riveting tale. Maybe we can make it sound like a conspiracy of sorts.
 
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