Since you seem unopposed to development, I read a company is looking to set up 200,000 hen/egg laying facility in an urban setting ... that empty lot just down the street from you, looks ideal. When can they start construction?
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Apple Ditches Plans for $1 Billion Irish Data Center, Citing Approval Delays
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Since you seem unopposed to development, I read a company is looking to set up 200,000 hen/egg laying facility in an urban setting ... that empty lot just down the street from you, looks ideal. When can they start construction?
Yes facts are important.
Two people filed the lawsuit objecting to the data center. Apparently many more actually wanted Apple there:
“More than 2,000 people staged a march in support of the centre in Athenry in November 2016 after objections put the plan on hold.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/business...50m-data-centre-in-athenry-1.3490316?mode=amp
However, the law of unintended consequences is in full effect. As the article says, “the government is in the process of changing its planning laws to include data centers as "strategic infrastructure", which would allow them to get through the planning process much more quickly in future.”
Sometimes, you can win the battle but lose the war.
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An Apple data centre to be deemed an essential service ... just when you thought governments couldn't get any sleazier.
I love how these threads tend to be relevant for about 1 page, before kicking off into some generic left v right / progressive v conservative / economy v environment arguments 
One thing I would say - surely the approval process in this country could be SIGNIFICANTLY faster. I'm not saying give the green light to everything, or anything like that. I'm just saying make the decisions faster. If this decision had been made months ago, Apple might have said "ok, let's look at alternative sites". Call me cynical, but I very, very much doubt any significant new information came to light in recent weeks. So why drag out the process needlessly? A slower decision isn't necessarily a better one.
I think if any country said "there's no guarantee a planning request will be granted, but we will give you an answer within X weeks" then companies would love that. It gives the applicants clarity, transparency and doesn't put a massive unknown in the middle of their own plans.
One thing I would say - surely the approval process in this country could be SIGNIFICANTLY faster. I'm not saying give the green light to everything, or anything like that. I'm just saying make the decisions faster. If this decision had been made months ago, Apple might have said "ok, let's look at alternative sites". Call me cynical, but I very, very much doubt any significant new information came to light in recent weeks. So why drag out the process needlessly? A slower decision isn't necessarily a better one.
I think if any country said "there's no guarantee a planning request will be granted, but we will give you an answer within X weeks" then companies would love that. It gives the applicants clarity, transparency and doesn't put a massive unknown in the middle of their own plans.
Perhaps after the fiasco with the tax deal in Ireland, Apple has decided to not further any future investments in Ireland anymore .
Too late for Apple, but Amazon will no doubt benefit. No idea if Microsoft or Google are also in Ireland.
re: declaring data centers strategic infrastructure being sleazy, I’m not so sure. Microsoft, Amazon and Google (and most assuredly NOT Apple) cloud servers power an amazingly high proportion of business computing infrastructure. And not just the Fortune 5,000. Companies of all sizes.
I can somewhat understand local communities.
After a few months or years of increased traffic or other issues during the building phase which is probably carried out from the outside by outside people they end up with something that probably resembles a large bunker where almost nobody will work and probably nobody from the local community.
Investments like this are a bit like having a over head powerline in your property, everybody gets a net benefit except you that end up with a few 50 m steel behemoths on your front garden.
After a few months or years of increased traffic or other issues during the building phase which is probably carried out from the outside by outside people they end up with something that probably resembles a large bunker where almost nobody will work and probably nobody from the local community.
Investments like this are a bit like having a over head powerline in your property, everybody gets a net benefit except you that end up with a few 50 m steel behemoths on your front garden.
There are magnitudes of people, each year, who move out of large density environments seeking a more relaxed, laid back setting - they did their homework, found a spot to their liking and then some years later ... THIS.
As I said, buy the land and the problems solved in perpetuity.
One of the issues here is people who say they place value on something but never expect to pay a penny for it.
What racist rubbish. You do know Limerick was Ireland’s first-ever City of Culture in 2014 and why would they miss what they're never had?Great job from the angry pitchfork-wielding technology-fearing potato farmers. Their only experience with a computer was watching Logan's Run and as a result they've lost a huge investment for their community.
Now watch them complain that there aren't any local jobs or companies looking to set up shop. Not like the good ol' days, where you could buy a tractor for a punta and everybody carried on the family trade.
Maybe Apple can build the datacenter just beside Trump's golf course in Scotland, and bulldoze it. The locals will be only too happy.
Wasn't it planned here:
I'm pretty sure it was, Apple could have planned this a few hundred meters away from that, AFAIK there is plenty of space without cutting most of the trees.
People seem to forget.
I'm pretty sure it was, Apple could have planned this a few hundred meters away from that, AFAIK there is plenty of space without cutting most of the trees.
People seem to forget.
Maybe apple is not getting the tax break for building the data center, they initially thought. That's why they are pulling out!
You might want to rethink your simile. A livestock operation with biohazard byproducts isn't comparable to a data center run off 100% renewable power.
Development is Development ... the impact is all in the eye of the beholder.
Folks living in places like California and Oregon should be used to this kind of NIMBYism. And then there is the minor matter of that ongoing dispute over EU taxes and fines...nah, that couldn't possibly enter into Apple's decision making. No way.
And yet they value and embrace Trump-ish golf courses. Golf courses are unnatural, by the way.
Tim is a crook because he wants to minimize taxes paid? I’m no Tim Cook fan, but government is the entity that steals thr money in the first place. They’re the real crooks.
Waste water heat is a *major* concern near datacenters. Those that don’t operate a closed loop dump hot water into bodies of water causing sever damage to the marine life there.