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According to Digitimes, Apple is continuing to diversify its suppliers and moving away from its dependance on Samsung:
Apple has increased its purchases of DRAM and NAND flash from Japan, according to industry sources, adding that Toshiba and Elpida Memory are being pinpointed as beneficiaries of the increased procurement.
Apple and Samsung have been in increasingly escalating legal battles over patent claims concerning Apple's iOS devices and Samsung's Galaxy line These lawsuits are said to be the reason for Apple's shifting of suppliers. Apple had previously been reported to have moved from Samsung to TSMC for production of the A6 processor in 2012. Meanwhile, Samsung has even threatened to sue Apple over the iPhone 5 once it is released.

Apple had quickly become Samsung's biggest customer with contracts for over $7.8 billion in parts in 2011. Apple seems to be doing its best to shift those contracts to Samsung's competitors over the next year.

Article Link: Apple Diversifying Memory Suppliers Too, Moving Away from Samsung
 

DTphonehome

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That's what you get for biting the hand that fed you, Sammy.
 

iEric

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Why doesn't Apple just make a factory, and make it? Not like they are poor or anything....
 

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That's what you get for biting the hand that fed you, Sammy.

It will be really funny IMHO if these series of spat ended up putting Samsung out of business! :D

May the best company (or team of lawyers) win! :p
 

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Like it's been said before: suppliers need Apple. In turn, Apple has their pick of the litter.

Suppliers will adjust, expand capacity, and make the necessary modifications to accommodate big-name customers like Apple who are buttressed by insane consumer demand. Apple is a platinum-tier client.

Given Samsung's lousy numbers last quarter, they need all the business they can get. But Apple has to diversify suppliers due to increased demand anyway.
 

aleni

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Why doesn't Apple just make a factory, and make it? Not like they are poor or anything....

i live in asia and sell tshirts for a living, tshirts i mean about 30.000 pcs every month.

i can build my own factory and have 200 asian workers if i want to, but i prefer to design the tshirts in my company and give the designs to the factory that managed by other people so i don't have to deal with the workers.

it's a pain in the ass to deal with the workers and it will give me stress.

so i better let other company handle the production, give them a profit too and that means less profit for me but the stress life is non existence.
 

crazy dave

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Why doesn't Apple just make a factory, and make it? Not like they are poor or anything....

Apple used to, but eventually decided that it would be better in the long run for Apple to outsource the production of its parts to other companies. I believe in fact it was Tim Cook who changed that when he joined the company and now Apple's supply chain/inventory management is apparently the envy of their competitors ... so that decision seems to have worked out well. That's not to say it can't have drawbacks, but overall it seems to have been the right move for Apple business-wise.
 

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Like it's been said before: suppliers need Apple. In turn, Apple has their pick of the litter.

Suppliers will adjust, expand capacity, and make the necessary modifications to accommodate big-name customers like Apple who are buttressed by insane consumer demand. Apple is a platinum-tier client.

Given Samsung's lousy numbers last quarter, they need all the business they can get. But Apple has to diversify suppliers due to increased demand anyway.

Apple needs suppliers. It's a two way street.
 

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It will be really funny IMHO if these series of spat ended up putting Samsung out of business! :D

May the best company (or team of lawyers) win! :p

Or, more likely, that Apple screws itself by divorcing itself from one of the largest and most innovative suppliers.

How come these stupid spats are happening under MBA Tim's regime, not The Steve's?
 

AppleScruff1

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Or, more likely, that Apple screws itself by divorcing itself from one of the largest and most innovative suppliers.

Not to mention ending up buying lesser quality goods from second tier suppliers, like the SSD's in some of the MBA's.
 

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Or, more likely, that Apple screws itself by divorcing itself from one of the largest and most innovative suppliers.

There are others. Everyone wants in on the iDevice gig. Apple can't really "screw itself" as long as consumer demand for their products remains as high as it is. Judging by projections into 2012, it'll only go higher.
 

AppleScruff1

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There are others. Everyone wants in on the iDevice gig. Apple can't really "screw itself" as long as consumer demand for their products remains as high as it is. Judging by projections into 2012, it'll only go higher.

Until Windows 8 takes the tablet market by storm.
 

crazy dave

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Or, more likely, that Apple screws itself by divorcing itself from one of the largest and most innovative suppliers.

How come these stupid spats are happening under MBA Tim's regime, not The Steve's?

Or most likely, both companies end up just fine.

This started under Steve and Apple has always been known as a tough customer to deal with - especially when Steve was in charge (the perfectionism, the secrecy, etc ...). Trusting in Apple can produce good results (and they order in bulk to the point of cornering the market - always a major plus for a supplier) but some parts manufacturers didn't and don't like dealing with them. Though they trust Apple to do good work, Intel themselves have said dealing with Apple can be scary at times. So the reward for dealing with Apple is there.
 
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That's what you get for biting the hand that fed you, Sammy.

Minus the fact that is will have zero effect on Samsung. Hell Apple leaving them could easily mean more profits for Samsung not less.
You need to remember there is a shortage of flash memory. All Sammy will do is go down the street to the next guy and sell to them for the same or even more money.
Instead of having one client they might have 2 for the same amount but the net effect is nothing.
 

AppleScruff1

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Personally, I think the Windows 8 tablets will only take away from Android tablet sales.

I think they will definitely take away from Android tablet sales, there aren't many to begin with! It will take some of Apples market share, the question is how much?
 

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Minus the fact that is will have zero effect on Samsung. Hell Apple leaving them could easily mean more profits for Samsung not less.
You need to remember there is a shortage of flash memory. All Sammy will do is go down the street to the next guy and sell to them for the same or even more money.
Instead of having one client they might have 2 for the same amount but the net effect is nothing.
Remember when Apple was "going" to leave Intel?
 

hcho3

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Apple should have over 80 billion dollars in cash by now. Samsung only has 19 billion dollars in cash and they can only use 12 billion dollars as a cash flow.

Right now, Samsung can't beat apple, period.

Samsung is popular with making Tv and smart phones. But, they don't have anything else up against apple to go head to head.

Apple won't be able to put samsung out of business, no. But, Samsung's last quarter was nothing, but disappointing. As soon as I heard apple was moving away from samsung for A6, I sold all of my Samsung shares.

Samsung isn't making much money from TV...

In order to make money, you have to find a company that needs suppliers like Apple who sells millions of smart phones every quarter.

Those of you who say Samsung will not take any damage from this...

Wtf? Do you even bother to check samsung stocks? It's down over 20-30% this year.

Samsung is absolutely stupid to go against apple. Stop copying apple and find your own designs.
Find a way to settle the lawsuit. Stop fighting against the most powerful tech companies in the world.

I am long apple.
 

nagromme

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Or, more likely, that Apple screws itself by divorcing itself from one of the largest and most innovative suppliers.

I just hope Samsung becomes MORE innovative, bringing consumers NEW designs (like Motorola and Microsoft have lately done) and copying less from Apple. They’re not copying Apple’s designs because they have to, and not because that somehow means more “choice.” They’re doing it because it’s more cost-effective to copy than to innovate, so they innovate less and copy more. As a consumer, I surely don’t benefit from that. So I hope Apple succeeds in shifting Samsung to a more innovative approach, whether through buyer pressure, defending patents on things Apple actually did invent, or just making it not worth the bother to copy them any further.

Good thing Apple fans aren't waiting for the iPhone 5.

It will be interesting to measure the time between the next iPhone’s very first announcement and users having it in their hands, vs. the time between Microsoft’s very first Windows 8 announcement and users having that in their hands :D Windows 8 was announced before the next iPhone. Will it ship before the next iPhone, or after?

But none of those can hold a candle to Windows in the marketplace.

They can all hold a candle to Windows 8, since they’re out there now, whereas Windows 8 won’t ship for ages—like a year or longer). And Windows has been “in the marketplace” on tablets for years upon years, yet still lags far behind iOS after Apple re-invented the tablet.
 
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