Apple doesn't seem as held back with this first gen product

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by shenfrey, Apr 12, 2015.

  1. shenfrey, Apr 12, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2015

    shenfrey macrumors 68000

    May 23, 2010
    I mean we already have :

    Retina display
    Inductive charging
    Force touch
    Swappable straps

    Now Apple has a tendency of holding features back like a retina display or some kind of new technology, such as force touch, in order to sell its upgrade. However Apple has been very generous this time in a first generation product.

    What do you think they could still add, aside from maybe a camera, and the obvious battery improvements.
  2. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    More health features. Better refinement. Better battery life. More band options. Different colors besides aluminum, stainless steel, space black, and space gray. A camera makes no sense to me, but GPS could.
  3. wbitsky macrumors member

    Apr 10, 2015
    Retina display: not new technology anymore and it would almost be considered unacceptable by today's standards

    Inductive Charging: makes sense to make the watch not have an ugly hole for charging. Also so all the future generations can share the same charger

    Force Touch: if they added this in a later generation, then the new apps that used it wouldn't have such a good experience on this version

    Barometer: I want aware it has this, do you have a source?

    Pedometer: pretty basic, just a accelerometer. Plus iPhones already have this feature

    Swappable straps: it wouldn't be a successful product if it wasn't personalizable (as they advetised)

    Don't worry, I'm sure they will add plenty of great new feature in the next gen:)
  4. mattopotamus macrumors G5


    Jun 12, 2012
    I think apple does a really good job with creating first gen products that people want. The original iPhone, Mac Air, Retina Macs, apple watch, Mackbook. These are all first gen products that people really wanted, and for the most part were better than anything else available from a form/function/looks standpoint.
  5. rorschach macrumors 68020


    Jul 27, 2003
    I think hardware/tech updates are going to be fewer than the iPhone or iPad. The most frequent updates to the Watch, imo, will be in the form of more options like new bands and cases (different materals).

    And of course, software updates will add a lot of functionality.
  6. Carl Sagan macrumors 6502a

    Carl Sagan

    May 31, 2011
    The Universe
    Next one will have better battery life. The one after will be 30/40% slimmer. The one after that will have 4G and GPS built in uncoupling it from the iPhone.
  7. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    not really that all out. I mean other than the force touch and the charging all the features are 'old tech' in the apple world. If they didn't include them, folks would be crapping on them for not doing it. And these are features often asked for when talking about the iPhone and iPad. I'm not sure they are ready to do the charging on those yet but the Force Touch could be a first step towards a level of pressure support. most folks don't need the 100s of a Wacom but a good 10-12 and a finer pickup for lines would make handwriting cleaner which many could find useful.
  8. miniroll32 macrumors 65816


    Mar 28, 2010
    I would suggest the CPU will be number one priority. If they can make it even more energy efficient and snappier, the battery will last longer and they may be able to incorporate another sensor.
  9. shenfrey thread starter macrumors 68000

    May 23, 2010

    Seemed pretty snappy in the store.
  10. quackers82 macrumors 6502

    Mar 13, 2014
    We don't know what the product cycle will be yet. We can guess annually but it might be every 2 years or every 3 years for a refresh in spec.

    They might go for the longer spec cycle and just introduce new colours and straps at intervals.
  11. smiddlehurst macrumors 65816

    Jun 5, 2007
    I've never understood where this "Apple hold back features" stuff comes from. In this case the OP's claiming they held back Retina displays... which is frankly ridiculous. The iPhone got a Retina display as soon as the silicon could drive it. The iPad got one as soon as the silicon could drive it (actually earlier, the SoC in an iPad 3 is possibly the most ridiculous chip design in the last ten years and Apple don't get anywhere near enough credit for that thing. The iPad Mini got it as soon as both SoC and screen would work in the confines of the smaller case. If you go back and look at the hardware specs available for each generation there just isn't a suitable option available to introduce the higher res screens earlier without significantly compromising the device.

    By and large Apple tend to 'hold back' smaller things. Storage has been the prime candidate with iOS devices though there are a few others. Either way it's tough to see more than a couple of glaring examples (I'd say the only really obvious ones where 3G in the original iPhone and a camera in the first iPad but you could also argue Apple genuinely thought they wouldn't be needed).

    I honestly don't think the Apple Watch will ever have cellular connectivity. It just doesn't make sense for most people as there are very few circumstances where you'd a) not have your phone, b) not have access to wifi and c) be willing to pay for another contract. Plus I'd imagine having to accommodate a SIM tray would be a major pain the proverbial. Slimmer, thinner, better battery and more powerful silicon is almost a given but those things develop naturally over time as the tech improves, no holding back there. Similarly GPS may come along but it'll be battery-dependent.

    Other than that the most likely developments will be additional sensors (wearables make the most sense as ways to extend the ability of a control device to interact with the world), native apps (coming this year if I remember right, most likely with an intro at WWDC) and improvements to the manner and ways the Watch interacts with the iPhone.
  12. shenfrey thread starter macrumors 68000

    May 23, 2010

    Well written and informative post. What is your take on the upgrade cycle, should we expect yearly?
  13. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    They deliberately hold back the quality of Cameras in iPads, even further back than the last gen iPhone's one.

    They still are holding back a flash unit for the iPad to go along side the camera, something the iPad should of had since the moment the device 1st ever had a camera.

    The shameful aspect of all of this is how tiny an amount, just a few dollars, such a change would cost, on something with hundreds of dollars profit.
  14. boshii macrumors 68040


    Jul 6, 2008
    Atlanta, GA
    A camera makes plenty of sense for FaceTime.
  15. shenfrey thread starter macrumors 68000

    May 23, 2010

    And selfie.
  16. iCore24 macrumors 6502


    Jan 6, 2013
    They left out a number of stuff that I can guarantee the next gen will have.

    - There is a screen gap. They didn't laminate the sapphire crystal to the lcd display which I was shocked to learn.

    - There is lag.

    - Apps take time to load since it has to pull in information from the iPhone. You will be staring at the spinning wheel a lot.

    - It is a little bit thick.

    - No front facing camera.
  17. shenfrey thread starter macrumors 68000

    May 23, 2010

    I remember a video with Jony Ive saying it is laminated to the sapphire crystal.
  18. MVallee macrumors 6502a


    Feb 8, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    It also says it is on the Apple Watch site.

    "On most Apple Watch models, the display is laminated to a machined and polished single crystal of sapphire."
  19. MH01 Suspended


    Feb 11, 2008
    Those are demo units. You need to sync one with an iPhone and try it out.
  20. iCore24 macrumors 6502


    Jan 6, 2013
    Weird? I read on a review that there is a noticeable screen gap.
  21. kmj2318 macrumors 68000


    Aug 22, 2007
    Naples, FL
    i think the idea of holding back features is naivety. So I'll just say I what I expect in the future.

    Always-on display: other smart watches already have this. Because the screen is amoled, black screens don't take as much energy. Im also expecting a strap with a battery inside, which will help allow for always on screen.
  22. cmichaelb macrumors 68020


    Aug 6, 2008

    It's not an LCD. OLED screen.
  23. Downs2011 macrumors regular

    Mar 7, 2013
    Maryland, USA
    I don't think Apple has the resources to produce a watch within the next two years that will justify me upgrading from my current SS Apple watch. I have no problem charging my watch at night with my phone. Even if the watch is updated on a annual schedule, I will opt out of upgrading for at least 2-3 years.
  24. macguy360 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 23, 2011
    Are you kidding me? A camera would be amazing. Face time using the watch would be the coolest thing ever.
  25. MVallee macrumors 6502a


    Feb 8, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Ya I saw that on The Verge review as well and was confused. Maybe he was mistaken, or maybe is just looks like there is a gap when in fact there isn't? I meant to look for this during my try on appointment but I was too excited and forgot to check. The display looked beautiful to me though so if there is a gap, I think you'd have to look for it to notice it.

    Scroll down to the part where it talks about the display and you can see where it says it is laminated.

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