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The poor sales of smaller smartphones is probably the result of a lack of stock. Few companies make them anymore. And people looking to buy an iPhone probably wouldn't want a 5s that has less storage, memory and a slower processor than Apple's other offerings. The 5c had the same issues. If Apple sold a 4" iPhone that equaled their other offerings except in display size, then we'd be able to accurately judge whether people really want that form factor.

Exactly right. I bought Apple's 4.7" phone for Christmas, but I would have purchased a 4" iPhone 6s if Apple would have made one.

While the bigger phones look great (holy cow the display is amazing), they're just so darn big they're hard to carry around, particularly on a belt clip.
 
Good Numbers for sure!

In Canada in particular I bet those numbers will be really high. There were actually some really good carrier sales on iPhones this christmas / boxing day. Usually Apple devices are never discounted, but right now you could get the iphone 6 for free from Bell/Telus on a plan, or $149 for the 6S, which is probably biggest discount I've seen from the Carriers.

Best Buy is showing just about all the base 16gb models sold out at these prices.
 
What I don't understand is why Samsung dominates the Android market.

This is a genuine question to any passing Android fans (I'm sure there are those who come here to troll the Apple fans) - is there something I'm missing that makes Samsung phones a good choice over, say, Sony, HTC, who-ever-makes-the-current-Google-phone, etc?


Like apple, they market heavily. Take away the marketing and sales suffer greatly. You must get yourself out there in the customer's minds. Google looks to be advertising their Nexus brand a bit more on television - which is a smart move by Google. The 6P is a great phone.

VHS vs Beta - which was really the better product? Beta, but lost miserably.
 
Like apple, they market heavily. Take away the marketing and sales suffer greatly. You must get yourself out there in the customer's minds. Google looks to be advertising their Nexus brand a bit more on television - which is a smart move by Google. The 6P is a great phone.

VHS vs Beta - which was really the better product? Beta, but lost miserably.
That's right on target.....look at the ones that don't advertise or advertise poorly like HTC. The 6P is a great phone.
I wonder what the total activations were by platform. Android versus IOS?
 
What I don't understand is why Samsung dominates the Android market.

This is a genuine question to any passing Android fans (I'm sure there are those who come here to troll the Apple fans) - is there something I'm missing that makes Samsung phones a good choice over, say, Sony, HTC, who-ever-makes-the-current-Google-phone, etc?

I cant come up with any better explanation than brand name. Samsung has been very aggressive in advertizing their phones. everybody knows Samsung Galaxy. not too many people know about Huawei Honor, Moto, Leon, Nexus, ZTE Blade and all the others. you do have a point, Samsung phones usually dont offer anything other phones dont offer at a lower price so it doesnt make too much sense that Samsung Galaxy dominates the Android market. if the public were smart, the Moto and Nexus phones would be easily be the dominant Android phones. but i guess the public cant be bothered to educate themselves and would rather buy whatever they see on commercials or whatever their friends have.
 
Yup. Here in Amsterdam (anecdotal evidence of course) I see HUNDREDS of Samsung adverts, 2-3 Sony and LG adverts and... that's it. I have never seen a Huawei, Motorola or Xiaomi phone advert in my life – I've seen 2-3 Motorola banners (those that got past my ad-block). As far as advertising would have you believe, Android = Samsung.
 
One of the many problems I see with these stats revolves around the tablets. Activation? I'd say the vast majority of tablets sold are either WiFi only, or even if they do have cellular capability, it is never activated.
 
Yup. Here in Amsterdam (anecdotal evidence of course) I see HUNDREDS of Samsung adverts, 2-3 Sony and LG adverts and... that's it. I have never seen a Huawei, Motorola or Xiaomi phone advert in my life – I've seen 2-3 Motorola banners (those that got past my ad-block). As far as advertising would have you believe, Android = Samsung.

Southern Ontario is the same. The carriers all push either iPhones or Samsungs, with the rare Blackberry thrown in the mix.

Sony, LG, Huawei, Motorolla are all completely and utterly absent from mass media. Considering that the two big carriers also own all the media, it's not surprising that whatever phones they want to push, are the only ones we typically see
 
Sales were down YoY. The trend ain't Apple's friend right now. The phone market is saturated, the watch ain't selling, iPad sales are down pretty big, the computer premium ain't worth it anymore, and the AppleTV... 2016 should be a fun year for the 'Apple Phone Company'. Stock should get hammered most of 2016 as the rest of the planet enters a nightmare debt scenario. Emerging markets are finished, and commodity exporting countries are about to get slaughtered. Buy your 'Puts' folks, iPhone sales will decline for the first time in 2016 - Bank on it. Easy money.

Predictions of doom without a shred of evidence to support them. If I were you, I'd short Apple. Easy money. I mean, someday your dire predictions will come true, right?
 
As Garbage sang, "The World Is Not Enough". If Apple had 99.9% worldwide sales and increase of 200% YoY, there would still be some people who would call it a failure because analysts expected 250% increase.
 
Lol, I don't know about all that...
I don't know how esoteric or niche you think the kids nowadays are, but with literally millions of apps optimized for iPad & virtually 100% of popular tablet apps being available on iOS.... I tend to HIGHLY doubt that a lot of consumers this Christmas asked for a tablet, specifying "please, NOT an iPad", because there aren't apps available that they want.
Sounds VERY far fetched.

Well if you are one of the tens of thousands of users who enjoy the application Second life for socialising or for making money which many do due to building, and renting to others, sometimes many thousands of dollars a month.
There is no real client for iOS.
There is one for Android here:
http://www.lumiyaviewer.com/

But there is no iOS version written by anyone anywhere.
All there is a VERY very old text based app which also shows a map and that's that.

Don't ask me why. I don't know, but that's been this way for years.

If you wish to run such an app you have no choice, you cannot buy an Apple tablet or Phone
 
I still think Apple should make the tablets cell capable and develop a bluetooth ear piece in conjunction with it. It'd be like a digital brief case. By doing this tablet sales would increase. I believe the phablet sales point towards this.

VOIP basically allows for this, such as Skype. Not perfect but works for many.
 
One of the many problems I see with these stats revolves around the tablets. Activation? I'd say the vast majority of tablets sold are either WiFi only, or even if they do have cellular capability, it is never activated.

By "activation", they mean seeing a device use an app with their analytics software for the first time.

In the week leading up to Christmas, this averages one app per person, btw.

Does the number indicate iPhone 6s is sold 5 times better than 6s Plus?

It might. Or it might just mean that people with a 6S are five times more likely, than people with a Plus, to install and use a new app during the holidays :)

My question is, does it know if an app is being used the first time on a new device if that app was installed via a backup? Because many people might just set up their new device the same way as their old one, and not need or want to install and use any new apps during the holidays.

I would also imagine that many Chinese Android apps do not include Flurry code.
 
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How can an Android purchase be tracked via activation if purchased unlocked, never registered with manufacturer or Android/Google, and never purchased or downloaded any apps - as is the case with the phone I purchased for 'er indoors?
 
Well if you are one of the tens of thousands of users who enjoy the application Second life for socialising or for making money which many do due to building, and renting to others, sometimes many thousands of dollars a month.
There is no real client for iOS.
There is one for Android here:
http://www.lumiyaviewer.com/

But there is no iOS version written by anyone anywhere.
All there is a VERY very old text based app which also shows a map and that's that.

Don't ask me why. I don't know, but that's been this way for years.

If you wish to run such an app you have no choice, you cannot buy an Apple tablet or Phone

Lol.
Wow. One minor example??!
I stand corrected!! =P
Jk.
Nobody is giving up Apple quality at Christmas for the sake of one measley app. Get real.
If you want to play more with phoney numbers, I'll bite though! Let's take your 10,000 Second Life players & assume that roughly 1/3 of them are people even remotely interested in owning a tablet (since clearly not EVERYONE has a tablet)... let's say roughly 1/3 of those are hardcore enough that they would either switch from their current way of using the app or add to it on their new tablet, then we'll assume that, since tablets have been out for years and years and years now, that about 75% of those already have a tablet & weren't even asking for one for Christmas.
I could easily keep paring it down like this, but there's really no use...
The numbers speak for themselves.
 
Lol.
Wow. One minor example??!
I stand corrected!! =P
Jk.
Nobody is giving up Apple quality at Christmas for the sake of one measley app. Get real.
If you want to play more with phoney numbers, I'll bite though! Let's take your 10,000 Second Life players & assume that roughly 1/3 of them are people even remotely interested in owning a tablet (since clearly not EVERYONE has a tablet)... let's say roughly 1/3 of those are hardcore enough that they would either switch from their current way of using the app or add to it on their new tablet, then we'll assume that, since tablets have been out for years and years and years now, that about 75% of those already have a tablet & weren't even asking for one for Christmas.
I could easily keep paring it down like this, but there's really no use...
The numbers speak for themselves.

This assumes much
 
Well, offering the 6s for $1 and offering $200 for a trade-in of an iPhone 5 or newer certainly spurred sales. My sister had no plans to upgrade her iPhone 5, but that deal had her driving all over Boston to find one in the color she wanted. Four hours later: she had a new iPhone 6s for a $1 and a $200 gift card.
 
If the iPhone 7 flopped I could easily see those numbers decrease across the board. I lived in a time when Sony was unstoppable and

I wouldn't be surprised 10 years from now if Apple becomes average. Virtual reality such as Oculus Rift, HTC Vive and Microsoft Augmented reality are expected to be big news in 2016 and beyond. If this catches as the next big thing where is Apple in all of this? What is Apple's game plan? Other than the iPhone I don't see any game changer for Apple. The Apple Watch, Apple TV, Mac and iPad lineup will not keep Apple at the top long term. And God forbid the iPhone flops one of these years. I just don't see Tim Cook releasing a game changer anytime soon. Looking back on 2015 Apple had a average play it safe year.
Other than iPhone 7 what does Apple really have in 2016 that would be must buy status?

But can you realistically say that if the iPhone somehow flops that people would still invest in other Apple products? Maybe the Mac would continue those numbers but I don't see the other iOS like products holding their own. iPads are basically slowing down each year and watches don't have to be replaced every time a new model comes out. Apple TV is still a hobby and is not at must buy status.

Anything is possible. A future iPhone could be a "flop"

Though I think the smart folks at Apple will do everything in their power to NOT let that happen. They've made very positive decisions these last 8 years.

Or people could stop buying iPhones... which is unlikely since iOS is a pretty great platform and Apple is the only company who makes iOS smartphones. There is enough of an audience there. iPhones will never sell in the volume of Android phones... but that's understandable since iPhones are fairly expensive. Yet they're obviously not too expensive since Apple sells more than enough of them.

Blackberry is in a pretty bad place right now because people stopped buying Blackberries and started buying other platforms such as iOS and Android. Blackberry really dropped the ball. They weren't able to compete with iOS and Android. Neither did Windows Phone. And Palm left the market years ago.

So for people to stop buying iPhones... either there needs to be a resurgence in Windows Phone or Blackberry... or a new platform needs to come onto the scene. I don't think either of those things are possible today though.

People could leave iPhone for Android... which I'm sure happens to some degree already. But it's probably the same situation when a Mac user switches to a Windows PC. You get used to the way a certain platform operates... so you gotta have a damn good reason to switch in order to put up with the differences. Though I would imagine that most people with iPhones tend to buy another iPhone. They like them.

Macs had a market long before the iPhone... so they aren't necessarily linked. But there is some degree of "halo effect" where you buy a Mac after you've had positive experiences with and iPhone or iPad. But like I said... Macs were a thing long before the iPhone. And Apple sells more than enough Macs to keep them going. Did you ever wonder why Apple has been able to sell Macs for over 30 years... while many other PC companies either went out of business or were acquired by other failing PC companies?

Virtual Reality is cool... but I don't think it will ever be as common and necessary as smartphones, tablets and computers. VR is something that you have to plan to use... since you put on a helmet that blocks your field of view completely. It's not an all-day thing.

Augmented Reality seems more promising since you're still part of the real world. But for the next couple years it's still gonna require a clunky visor.

I would have thought products like Google Glass would be popular since it's a (semi) unobtrusive device that is simply perched upon your eyeglasses. You could get information in your eyeball by just speaking. But Google Glass flopped because of social issues: people don't like a camera pointed at them 24/7

But here's the deal... if VR or AR is something that looks to be the next big thing... Apple could get into the industry with no problem. Their huge cash reserves enable them to make things happen. There's probably some Israeli company working on VR/AR that Apple could buy for a couple hundred million dollars... and turn it into a billion dollar product.

But I just don't think VR/AR is something that will be a popular consumer product.

So yeah... Apple without the iPhone would be a very different company. Though I can't imagine a scenario where Apple stops selling the iPhone. It may be the Macintosh of this generation: low-volume yet insanely profitable.
 
Ah yes--the yearly supply chain doom and gloom. Nobody has learned by now that these predictions are BS.

Exactly my thoughts. These supply chain predictions seem to be more of a stock manipulation tactic than real news. Makes you wonder if they are released on purpose to drive the stock down?

As always, it will be interesting to see the reality when earnings are released. I'm guessing sales will be in line with Apple's expectations... they have a very reliable track record.

I really think 2016 needs to be the year that Apple focuses on the eco-system and really make everything Apple work flawlessly together with no effort. They are close, but it's the details that stop users like my wife from being able to do simple things like use Air Drop. Also, better management tools of accounts would be nice. Anyway... my wish list all has to do with ease of use and seamless integration.
 
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