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Apple Doubles the Price of RAM Upgrade on Entry-Level 13-Inch MacBook Pro
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When you a have a consumer base which buys anything you put out, even "pro" not so pro devices, you can pull off these kind of moves all day long.
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Lol, see what I mean?
It will! Reposting my post from elsewhere:
2015 13" was sold until Jun 2017: Vintage: 2022 Obsolete: 2024
2015 15" was sold until Jul 2018: Vintage: 2023 Obsolete: 2025
Can also upgrade the nvme drives to 4TB without too much effort.
Gotta love the 2015s.
Umm... So basically you're saying you appreciate the value in macOS, but you don't want to pay for it.
When you download macOS from the App Store and don't pay anything for it, why do you think that is? It's because you've already paid for it when you bought the Mac. The price of macOS is built into the hardware purchase and Apple protects their "free" OS by not letting it install on any other hardware.
Alternatively, they could sell the OS separately, but rest assured, if they did, it would be a lot more expensive than Windows. Why? Because it's better than Windows (you agree with that surely, otherwise why do you want it?) The price of macOS added to the price of the Lenovo or HP would be at least as much as a similar Mac with the OS included.
Or you think Apple is a charity that should just give their OS away?
I was on the fence about adding the extra ram, but now I know if I’d ordered just a few days earlier I could have had it for half price I can’t bring myself to order it anymore. Helped me make my decision I guess.
This is what happens when the CEO is not an ideas person, but a bean counter. 
And would cost... i don't know, say $300 - $500 more than the Dell running Windows. Or do you think Apple should just give their OS away?
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Right because that approach has worked for Microsoft, Dell, HP, etc. in the long term. /s
Market share does not = money/profits. Steve Jobs figured that out 30 years ago and Apple, under both Steve and Tim, has been the world's wealthiest company for most of the last 10+ years. But sure, you know better. lol.
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If in their opinion they disregard their own data, there is not much I can do about that.
Here is how the PCMark 8 Storage Test is built up: https://www.anandtech.com/show/10303/choosing-the-right-ssd-for-a-skylakeu-system/4
Basically PCMark has taken traces of applications that are starting, and then replay those on your computer. It is precisely the thing that that the person I replied to was noticing to be slow.
Note that a score of 1818 on PCMark 8 Storage Test v2 by Notebookcheck is already very much slower than SSDs tested in 2016 by Anandtech (they score about 5000). If you get only 37% of the performance of your old laptop on those 'common' tasks, you will notice. It is literally Microsoft and Adobe software, and two games.
I wonder if Apple are accidentally using only one of the 4 lanes for sending command to the SSD or something. Even SATA-600 drives score double. These MacBook Pro have about as effective storage as 2017 $550 ultrabook.
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I like Mac and buy apple products regularly.....but this is just sleazy. They had a chance to set prices when they released the product, revising it so close to launch is clearly a means to push people to a higher sku.
you’ll be back in a few weeks. I’m speaking from personal experience here. Windows is terrible and so is 99% of all PC hardware
One of the only real upgrades for this machine has doubled in price.
Guessing that the number of people ordering this ram upgrade was pretty high and Apple saw an opportunity to capitalize on that number.
Guessing that the number of people ordering this ram upgrade was pretty high and Apple saw an opportunity to capitalize on that number.
I’d like to eventually replace my 1 TB with a 2 TB Nvme. Looks like you have to be cautious compatibility-wise. I welcome any suggestions you have. Installation looks fairly easy.
No, not even close. Apple's is a reasonable 38% GPM. Do a bit of research.
Wow do you even understand how many times you just contradicted yourself?
You can't have it both ways. Either:
1. We're comparing premium Apple products (the only kind of Apple products relatively speaking) with cheap PC products, in which case the poster you're replying to is absolutely spot on (those cheaper PC products are crap compared to Apple). Or...
2. We're comparing premium Apple products against premium PC products - the ones you're referring to - and it's been proven time and time again that prices are comparable in that tier.
Apple products are expensive. So are comparable PC products. The only difference is Apple chooses not to compete in the "crap" market/tier. And this is not a Tim thing. Steve was famous for saying exactly that, time and time again.
Guess what? It's not just computers. Premium Toyotas cost similar prices to BMWs. They're called Lexus. Just because BMW doesn't make anything comparable to Toyota's "Toyota" brand (as opposed to Lexus) doesn't mean BMWs are overpriced.
People with issues with the notch: it makes no sense. The notch exists because they INCREASED the display area to cover everything they possibly could. Some of us don't see it as a notch, but as extra screen area and tech that wasn't there before.
Still, if you don't like it, you do realize you still have a choice, right? iPhone 8 and 8+ until just a few weeks ago, and now iPhone SE (with SE Max or whatever rumored to be coming).
I’m not sure why everyone is wondering why they increased the price except for the fact that Apple goofed when they launched the new MBA and somehow the $100 slipped through the cracks. That was the only $100 upgrade from 8GB to 16GB in the entire lineup of Macs and it doesn’t matter what type of RAM it is, that was an anomaly which got corrected today.
99% of PC hardware is MAC hardware...except you often get less with MAC.
Windows is not terrible and if you really had personal experience you would know that.
This is all complete nonsense. It's well known that (a) Apple's profits now are basically the same as they were under Steve Jobs. And (b) Apple's profits are in line with the industry.
Apple seems to charge more for the hardware because it bakes in the cost of the otherwise "free" OS, superior customer support, training, returns, not to mention R&D, and a bunch of other things.
Maybe Apple should sell the hardware and OS separately. Of course then you'd all complain when they charge $500 for macOS it's too expensive. Yet the rest of us would still buy it because we appreciate the value in it. The reason you'd be complaining is because you want everything you appreciate in macOS for nothing.
Why are you all here if it's too expensive? Because you want it. And you want it because it's better. If it's not then go buy PCs - or better still, Linux which is truly free - and stop complaining.
Except you know you won't.
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Exactly. All you people complaining about this have no concept of reality.
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Y'know, this is what gets me. People complaining about things being soldered claiming it's forced obsolescence and Tim being greedy. It's nonsense. "You're buying it wrong".
What's wrong with "upgrade the entire machine"? If you upgrade pieces over a longer period, you still have to upgrade the entire machine sooner or later, and 5+ years later it's lost almost all its resale value. It makes no economic sense.
I buy new or Apple refurbished with 3 years AppleCare warranty and usually sell it before that time is up for half to two-thirds what I bought it for. It’s a reliably repeatable cycle that I’ve repeated for 2+ decades.
Doing so, I'm "upgrading" EVERYTHING, regularly, to the latest tech, all at once - which means it all works better together because it's been engineered specifically to.
Repair prices, or batteries, or whatever else? Not my problem. If anything goes wrong it’s Apple’s problem. I NEVER have to pay anything to maintain it. Ongoing, year after year, I never pay more than one-third to one-half the purchase price (when factoring the resale). EVER.
I just bought the US$6000 maxed out 16” MBP. I’ll sell it in a year for about $4K or in 2 years for about $3K. If I do the latter I’m spending $1500 a year or $125 per month. For the most expensive maxed out Mac laptop available.
With what I do I use every GHz and GB in it. But sure, not everyone needs that. So ok, proportionally, you can have an up to date $2000 13” MacBook Pro for less than $50 a month, or $12 a week.
Why anyone wants to upgrade only limited pieces at a time on otherwise five year old tech or whatever will never make sense to me.
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You can't be serious. Have you not seen any of Apple's relief and charity efforts? Good grief.