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Who do you think is providing the flash to Apple?

Even a basic nmve 970EVO is faster than the most people can make use of.
Samsung. Among others, and that helps to lower the chip prices. Yes, but what people here seem to forget is the integrated Apple NVME controller. And RAW speed isn’t the only thing that you should be looking at. The wear level algorithm that Apple has in place, to move data, is superior to that of every other drive manufacturer.
 
Cheaper MBP memory upgrades but higher entry price (£2,349->£2,399/ £2,699->£2,799) - masters of the up-sell indeed.
 
Now if they'd drop the price of the memory to a more reasonable rate... and I wouldn't have to mess around ordering third party memory. Not that it's a big deal in the 27" iMac. But in the non-upgradable Macs, it's a deal killer...
 
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Just bought the I7 mac mini with the 1T option.
At the new prices I was tempted to buy the 21.5 2019 iMac but I don't need the screen
and the mini has more ports and will cost me about 4oo less even with me buying the 32 gigs of
ram of amazon.
 
There won't be performance differences between MLC and TLC SSDs.
MLC's main advantages are a longer life span and the fact that is allows for more write cycles than TLC memory.
Apple also buys a lot of SSD's from Toshiba and honesty I couldn't find a reliable source that stated they are MLC SSDs.

Incorrect. There are speed differences in read and write. Writing requires more passes the more bits you use because of the need to get the voltage levels more precise. Programming is done one bit at a time, so write speeds drop down by the same factor.

This is exactly why drives use pseudo-SLC write caches. You see a high speed until the write cache fills up.

Reads aren't as bad. They're sometimes slower because of the need to retry to read set threshold voltages, especially when the cells are worn. (See Samsung 840 EVO performance problems)
 
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Prices still are quite inflated, but finally more reasonable.

Fusion Drive should've been dropped entirely as well.
I bet that dropping the Fusion Drive will happen with the next speed-bump of the iMac ... which would still be 3 to 10 months from now.
 
This is why I love the old MBP (2010/2011) design: I've been able to upgrade myself over the years as I needed to, going from a 500gb HDD to a 1TB HDD to a 1TB SSD. Each time I was able to take advantage of falling drive prices, unscrew the back of the machine, and swap in a new drive. Next step is a 2TB SSD. Give me some ports and a back I can open up. You can keep your retina display, touch bar and extra-slim form factor.
 
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I wonder if/when this will trickle down into the refurb pricing[?]

Still not reflected in third party new pricing either. Was just looking at Adoramas "$150 off" sale pricing and it's still more than at Apple... And it's been a couple days...
 
Interesting... all the upgrades after 500GB for the 15" i7 MacBook Pro are the same cost as 256GB in the Military/Veterans Store. The i9 lists them all as no additional cost. In fact, all MacBook Air and Pro Models listed does this. Must be an error.

I didn't even know they had a veterans store. I just spent 5 minutes signing up for that id.me account and verification... Now I get cheaper pricing. Yay! Thanks for the heads up....
 
Prices still are quite inflated, but finally more reasonable.

Fusion Drive should've been dropped entirely as well.

Reasonable... You think $500 for a 1TB SSD is reasonable. Personally I think it's an absolute joke and the fact that people are willing to pay it staggers my mind.
 
Reasonable... You think $500 for a 1TB SSD is reasonable. Personally I think it's an absolute joke and the fact that people are willing to pay it staggers my mind.

The Samsung 1TB nvme pro ssd is currently $330 on amazon.com, so either...

1) you are comparing this to the cheaper prices of much ******** 1tb SSDs that Apple doesn’t use.

2) If you think 1.5x the best price on amazon is an “absolute joke” that “staggers your mind”, in terms of a customisation to a bespoke computer build... it’s not, in fact it’s pretty damn good vs competition, who either charge MORE for this upgrade or use a ******** quality SSD on their pre built computer upgrade options.

You are either incorrect, ignorant, or pointlessly hyperbolic. By any measure these prices are at least decent, and I would even say they are quite good.
 
The Samsung 1TB nvme pro ssd is currently $330 on amazon.com, so either...

1) you are comparing this to the cheaper prices of much ******** 1tb SSDs that Apple doesn’t use.

2) If you think 1.5x the best price on amazon is an “absolute joke” that “staggers your mind”, in terms of a customisation to a bespoke computer build... it’s not, in fact it’s pretty damn good vs competition, who either charge MORE for this upgrade or use a ******** quality SSD on their pre built computer upgrade options.

You are either incorrect, ignorant, or pointlessly hyperbolic. By any measure these prices are at least decent, and I would even say they are quite good.

Why compare to a Samsung Pro? Because it's the most expensive and makes your case look better? Truth be told, few are buying Samsung Pro unless they have a specific need for it (or the deep pockets for it). The world of reliable, inexpensive retail SSD's is growing each day as prices plummet. Name brand drives, made with leading tech controllers and name brand memory chips at cheap, cheap prices. And with 3-5 year warranties, that is as good as any Macbook after you've added the additional cost of AppleCare (MORE MONEY!).

Justify in your mind by comparing to the most expensive SSD on the retail market, but consumer SSD's have become blazing fast and people are finding they'd rather spend $100-$150 for a top speed SSD than $330 for a Samsung. Samsung will need to adjust their pricing or they will find themselves with inventory and big losses.

Look around...few people using the "********* 1tb SSD's" you refer to are saying they are crap. They're buying them up in droves. It's because they are built well using top controllers and NAND chips. But keep believing that Apple SSD's are somehow better, if that's what you need to justify the stupid high price.
 
Why compare to a Samsung Pro? Because it's the most expensive and makes your case look better? Truth be told, few are buying Samsung Pro unless they have a specific need for it (or the deep pockets for it). The world of reliable, inexpensive retail SSD's is growing each day as prices plummet. Name brand drives, made with leading tech controllers and name brand memory chips at cheap, cheap prices. And with 3-5 year warranties, that is as good as any Macbook after you've added the additional cost of AppleCare (MORE MONEY!).

Justify in your mind by comparing to the most expensive SSD on the retail market, but consumer SSD's have become blazing fast and people are finding they'd rather spend $100-$150 for a top speed SSD than $330 for a Samsung. Samsung will need to adjust their pricing or they will find themselves with inventory and big losses.

Look around...few people using the "********* 1tb SSD's" you refer to are saying they are crap. They're buying them up in droves. It's because they are built well using top controllers and NAND chips. But keep believing that Apple SSD's are somehow better, if that's what you need to justify the stupid high price.

It's been proven over and over again, that Apple do use the 'premium' expensive SSDs. And for that, these prices are actually pretty good. That's what I was replying to, someone claiming they are still overpriced, they are not for what they are.

You can argue that they should use cheaper SSDs, sure, but are you going to have twice the options on every model, with two tiers SSD quality? Are you just going to offer the non-premium SSDs and screw the people who want better?Or are you just going to keep it simple and use the best SSDs? I'm glad Apple pick the later.
 
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Am I right in thinking that there hasn't been the same price drop for the UK store?

And if so, can anyone hazard a guess as to why?
 
Why compare to a Samsung Pro? Because it's the most expensive and makes your case look better?

Because the SSDs apple uses have been tested and shown to have remarkably fast access times and throughput, equivalent to or better than the best on the market? Is that a good enough reason?
 
Hello fellow Europeans!

I bought mini (i7, 3.2GHz, 8GB, 256GB, 10Gbase-T) on last new year's eve and it costed me 1629 € (inc. VAT).
When I check the price for that in my country's Apple's website the price is still same.

512GB ssd is +240€ and 1TB ssd is + 480 €.
We're these more before or EU prices haven't dropped?

Seems to be, that 10.14 isn't supported by Apple when keeping home folders in external ssd, so I might need to upgrade...

In US,
1TB ssd is now +$400, how much it was before?
Was it really +$600 and that dropped by $200 (as the article say "1TB SSD upgrades have dropped by $200 on the iMac, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini")?
 
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Hello fellow Europeans!

I bought mini (i7, 3.2GHz, 8GB, 256GB, 10Gbase-T) on last new year's eve and it costed me 1629 € (inc. VAT).
When I check the price for that in my country's Apple's website the price is still same.

512GB ssd is +240€ and 1TB ssd is + 480 €.
We're these more before or EU prices haven't dropped?

Seems to be, that 10.14 isn't supported by Apple when keeping home folders in external ssd, so I might need to upgrade...

In US,
1TB ssd is now +$400, how much it was before?
Was it really +$600 and that dropped by $200 (as the article say "1TB SSD upgrades have dropped by $200 on the iMac, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini")?
In the US:

Starting with the 128GB base, the original pricing on SSD upgrades was 256/512/1TB for +200/400/800. Now, that pricing is +200/400/600. Pricing did not change on the 256/512GB upgrades.

So from 256 –> 1TB, it was +600, now it’s +400.
 
In the US:

Starting with the 128GB base, the original pricing on SSD upgrades was 256/512/1TB for +200/400/800. Now, that pricing is +200/400/600. Pricing did not change on the 256/512GB upgrades.

So from 256 –> 1TB, it was +600, now it’s +400.
Thank you!

I guess the prices have changed also here in EU, because 256->1TB is ~390€ exc.VAT.
 
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