Apple Eliminates Separate Binary Requirement for Dutch Dating Apps Accepting Alternative Payments

[vipergts2207]

correct. You break it you pay for it.

I don’t think anyone was ever against that idea.

 

[Stromos]

The idea was to have it both ways, either use iOS as is kept intact as we know it or go the full-on customization freedom land with whatever OSs pop out. With the latter you are on your own.

Using the Honda analogy mentioned before: “here’s the car we provide, it uses this ECU and Gasoline”, if the user wants it to use another ECU and Diesel, then he can go on and customize it without having to bother the rest of the ECU/Gasoline world.

I just remembered, the PS3 did something similar, you could use it as is or install Yellow Dog Linux… the Linux devs of that version had to implement most things on their own though.

I think this works because it takes care of: “I want to do with my phone whatever I want”, eliminates free riding (the custom OS has to be done on a completely separate path) and avoids bleeding unforeseen consequences from opening up iOS as we know it.

Funny to bring this up that openness ended up completely breaking the security on the PS3 and the feature had to be dropped completely but the damage was already done.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

correct. You break it you pay for it.

As it’s always been in EU and nothing have changed with that

 

[nastysailboat]

So no problem then.

Indeed, but currently app developers can’t use Apple Pay. But there isn’t really anything preventing Apple Pay to be used for subscriptions or for normal one time payments instead of using your real info with apple

I was under the impression each transaction needed to be confirmed on a users device.

 

[davidg4781]

This is definitely an interesting idea. But it’s still like using your card at a bunch of different stores. Sure it doesn’t give your card number but it’s still giving your information (granted I’m not sure what that information is besides a number, I’d imagine your name and a billing address.) to multiple companies. And I don’t think Apple Pay does reoccurring payments. So you wouldn’t be able to have a dating app subscription without manual payments. At least not as it stands. I personally would rather just pay one company and call it a day. Plus isn’t it on the App to allow Apple Pay. Every app would have to add that functionality.

I’m able to use Apple Pay for my Boomerang and Every Dollar subscriptions. Probably others but I just got charged those.

It’s just odd that they’d single out dating apps for this. Maybe they don’t want spouses to see someone’s charges?

 

[I7guy]

As it’s always been in EU and nothing have changed with that

Same in the states.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

I’m able to use Apple Pay for my Boomerang and Every Dollar subscriptions. Probably others but I just got charged those.

It’s just odd that they’d single out dating apps for this. Maybe they don’t want spouses to see someone’s charges?

You still se that In bank statements. And it was because they filed the complaint

 

[amartinez1660]

Funny to bring this up that openness ended up completely breaking the security on the PS3 and the feature had to be dropped completely but the damage was already done.

Exactly, “be careful what you wish for” comes to mind.
Maybe it should be one way only, on your own, can’t be reverted back… if their phone’s security breaks it’s on those users.

To be clear, I do like iOS as it is, I would rather more devs would be on singleton app stores than not… restarting or transferring to a new phone is a breeze, getting a new Mac up and running is less so but still easy enough. Yes, there is the single point failure argument, but I would rather they fix that (via mirrors, backups, secondary temporary options, etc) than fragment it all over the place and also find ways for the likes of Blender licensing be compatible there too.

This whole openness idea as a separate fully flexible OS done by a third party (also fully openly chosen) is a path for those that try to force iOS being more like Android but still being on iPhone hardware, “my phone, my will to do whatever” and all these hand selected fines rules.

So, in conclusion, Apple would provide a fully working secure phone with a fully working OS ecosystem… but a user may decide to go fully on his freedom path: free to choose OS, tools, drivers for all the assorted chips, stores, payment systems, etc etc from scratch. All of which would of course not be compatible with anything iOS Apple, to avoid bleeding all the security issues that might appear from one into the other…

Now, doable in practice? Don’t know. All those Secure Enclave’s keys, assorted chips firmwares, etc? They should maybe be wiped too and custom configured by said third party offer.