apple employee G5 rumor

[IndyGopher]

Perhaps in public one should REMOVE one's choke collar, to lessen the chances of one having one's chain yanked. I really wanted to just smile smugly and let this one go, but I can't. DO YOU PEOPLE NEVER LEARN?? It has been all of 3 weeks since you started foaming at the mouth over the Apple "hypesite" and making your predictions and spewing your "inside information" about how This or That was "definitely" going to happen, and when. So please, if nothing else, learn this: Reasoned supposition and "definite fact" are not the same thing. The next Apple machine might be released at a surprise press breakfast tomorrow morning, or it might NEVER be released. The odds for either of those are roughly equal. Rumors are fun, they keep interest alive. Arranging your life around them is pathetic and sad. Don't be that guy. (If you were up later than usual last night, clicking "Reload" on the Apple site, that last bit was aimed squarely at YOU.) Besides, like I said before: A new machine coming out doesn't make the one on your desk any slower.

 

[Kid Red]

Originally posted by pc_convert?
Introducing the G5 at Seybold doesn't make much sense to me, (thats even if the G5 is ready).

Why would Motorola spend all that time and money on Apollo?

As I've stated in another post I think G5 towers will appear at MWNY or early 2003. I expect G4 Apollo towers to appear at Seybold.

This way Apollo becomes 'top dog' for a while. When the towers move onto G5, iMac2 migrates to Apollo.

But what do I know.....?

Apollo is for the iMacs. The Apollo tops out for the towers in one speed bump, why waste it on the towers at all? The iMacs don't speed bump as high as the towers so the Apollo could last 1-2 years for the iMac before it would get a G5.

 

[Kid Red]

A new machine coming out doesn't make the one on your desk any slower.

Uh, yea it does. My G4 450 will be a lot slower the day a 1.0ghz G4/G5 comes out. It slower by today's standard. If the top of the line fastest was 500mhz, then I'd agree. With Intel at 2.2ghz and Apple about to get to 1.0ghz, my machine is slower.

 

[Catfish_Man]

As much as I hate to bring this up again...

...I found some info that brings the possibility of a dual core G5 from "not going to happen" to "maybe". If Apple goes with IBM instead of Motorola for their next gen chip, take a look at the roadmap (attached). This would also explain why the guy said a dual G5 is like 8 G4s. G5 at 2X the clockspeed for each core, would be like a dual 1.xGHz G4 on a single chip (or a quad current G4). So a dual G5 would be like a quad 1.xGHz G4, or a octuple current G4.

*note: this doesn't seem very likely, I'm just saying there is evidence for it*

[edit] Also, it shows the same features as Motorola's chips. Integrated SIMD sounds like Altivec, and both have RapidIO and SMP. However, it doesn't say that the IBM one is 64 bit.[/edit]

 

[DNA]

OK, but:

Spikey, Evildead and you other people who think this is crap. Yes, of course it could be just crap. The interesting issues, in my opinion, are 1) That this information isn't too much at the same time (none of the "The new G5 will have USB 5,0 and terawire and come equipped with a built-in THX surround system" stuff) and 2) That the "employee" has bothered to mention stock market strategies, and to me the new strategy (one big announcement every three months instead of two every six months) makes sense. Any more comments on the "facts" please? Can you find any impossibilities (For example "USB 2.0 was skipped two years ago and they moved on to 4.0")?

 

[pc_convert?]

Apollo is for the iMacs. The Apollo tops out for the towers in one speed bump, why waste it on the towers at all? The iMacs don't speed bump as high as the towers so the Apollo could last 1-2 years for the iMac before it would get a G5.

The towers don't look competetive now. iMac2 with 800MHz G4's is much less expensive than the towers. Granted iMac2 has no PCI slots or AGP slot but some users want this. Apple need to differentiate between the consumer and pro models.

Apollo would act as a stop gap in the towers. I don't believe the G5 is ready yet (I hope I'm wrong), but if the towers use Apollo for 12 months or so before the G5 is introduced then the iMac2 and powerbooks can use Apollos.

Therefore my prediction is 1 year from now towers will use G5's and iMac's and powerbooks will use Apollo G4's, maybe the iBook with use a standard G4.

This makes sense to me, but Apple will probably introduce the G5 soon just to prove me wrong!

 

[cryptochrome]

I agree with DNA - the thing that makes this post interesting is that it is eminently reasonable and that it goes beyond just hardware to discuss software and strategy. The bit about a non-bootable classic, and its speed, is new and interesting. I suppose if you're the type of person who fakes these things you should study this post.

I guess since I was planning on purchasing a 12.1" iBook, I might as well do it now. USB 2 and Radeon aren't so important to me that I feel like waiting that long. If only they had a smaller powerbook.

 

[Catfish_Man]

If Apple does do the non-bootable classic...

...that would be the first time Apple's used one of my ideas (not that I suggested it or anything, I was just considering it). It would eliminate the finder, a large number of extensions, and almost the whole GUI related chunk of the system, it would be *fast* (think as fast as a heavily stripped down OS9).