Apple Employee in Culver City, California Has Coronavirus

[haganah]

Funny if we treated all sorts of things like homicides or gun violence like the coronavirus there would be even more pandemonium.....except we have.....and there isn't.....but a flu comes along that kills a few extra old people and THE WORLD IS ENDING WE ARE ALL GONNNA DIEEEEEEEEE!

Cant wait to see all the survival numbers come out to show just how massively obnoxiously overblown this all has been.

Im not advocating people do whatever they want. Everyone needs to be diligent as the SHOULD BE DURING EVERY FLU SEASON.

But it takes nearly a government lockdown for people to learn what they should have been taught as 4 years olds....wash your hands and cover your mouth and stay home when sick.

People who have plenty of sick time still come to work so that they "dont get too far behind" and then end up infecting half the office which puts EVERYONE behind.

Humans.....

I'd ignore it but this affects all of us. The government is asking people to be 6 feet away from each other. Companies with billions to lose have sent their employees home. Schools are shut. Graduation ceremonies and weddings were cancelled. People well versed on medicine, disease and data all are working to flatten the curve. We are doing everything we can not to transmit because the numbers currently look terrible for hospital admissions and those that require respirators. And here you are telling us this is overblown.

For everyone else, please do your best.

 

[gugy]

The lack of testing is the main issue. Right now the amount of people infected is probably 10x what is reported but we won't know. This is the biggest failure of the current health system. If we were able to mass test people we could be way more effective is stop spreading the virus. USA is a joke. M4A.

 

[maerz001]

Cant wait to see all the survival numbers come out to show just how massively obnoxiously overblown this all has been.

Its long been documented:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

8% dead vs recovered. Thats why experts take it seriously

 

[jonnyb098]

Its long been documented:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

8% dead vs recovered. Thats why experts take it seriously

Out of total cases the death rate is 4% so far. Thats why people are flipping out .....numbers are being severely twisted.
7,128 deaths DIVIDED BY 181,331 cases. Use that fancy smart phone!

Thats a 96 percent survival rate overall. And that factors in the high elderly death rate. The under 60 year old survival rate is 99 percent.


But Keep panicking!

 

[justperry]

It should fade away during the summer but I expect it will be back in the winter cold / flu season.

I hope so but have my doubts (fades away in summer), it will be far less of a problem if most people get it this season, that is, if the virus does not mutate into a far deadly one.

I'm wondering how much time will pass before it's ignored like the flu ?

When hospitals can easily handle the cases.

 

[haganah]

Out of total cases the death rate is 4% so far. Thats why people are flipping out .....numbers are being severely twisted.

96 percent survival rate overall. And that factors in the high elderly deaths. The under 60 year old survival rate is 99 percent.


Keep panicking!

You are a carrier for the virus. Do you not understand that you are impacting others?

And do you not understand that 4% death on a disease that spreads so rapidly is high?

And do you not understand that even for 30-40 year olds they can survive but with horrible respiratory issues?

Man people are concerned and working to do better for humanity and you're out here calling them panickers. Have some shame.

 

[Baymowe335]

So we are reporting all cases with their own article.

Apple is on lockdown, so this isn’t that newsworthy...but we gotta keep grabbing headlines.

The media is starting to do a real disservice to this effort.
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You are a carrier for the virus. Do you not understand that you are impacting others?

And do you not understand that 4% death on a disease that spreads so rapidly is high?

And do you not understand that even for 30-40 year olds they can survive but with horrible respiratory issues?

Man people are concerned and working to do better for humanity and you're out here calling them panickers. Have some shame.

Let’s be serious. It’s not 4% mortality.

 

[justperry]

Funny if we treated all sorts of things like homicides or gun violence like the coronavirus there would be even more pandemonium.....except we have.....and there isn't.....but a flu comes along that kills a few extra old people and THE WORLD IS ENDING WE ARE ALL GONNNA DIEEEEEEEEE!

Cant wait to see all the survival numbers come out to show just how massively obnoxiously overblown this all has been.

Im not advocating people do whatever they want. Everyone needs to be diligent as the SHOULD BE DURING EVERY FLU SEASON.

But it takes nearly a government lockdown for people to learn what they should have been taught as 4 years olds....wash your hands and cover your mouth and stay home when sick.

People who have plenty of sick time still come to work so that they "dont get too far behind" and then end up infecting half the office which puts EVERYONE behind.

Humans.....

Lets say the mortality rate is *2%, worldwide 140 million corona related deaths, that's a lot.

* Dependable on the country it can be less than 1% to maybe over 10%, if for instance this reaches Africa it will be a lot higher than 2%.

Let’s be serious. It’s not 4% mortality.

In some countries it's higher.

 

[V_Man]

Funny if we treated all sorts of things like homicides or gun violence like the coronavirus there would be even more pandemonium.....except we have.....and there isn't.....but a flu comes along that kills a few extra old people and THE WORLD IS ENDING WE ARE ALL GONNNA DIEEEEEEEEE!

Cant wait to see all the survival numbers come out to show just how massively obnoxiously overblown this all has been.

Im not advocating people do whatever they want. Everyone needs to be diligent as the SHOULD BE DURING EVERY FLU SEASON.

But it takes nearly a government lockdown for people to learn what they should have been taught as 4 years olds....wash your hands and cover your mouth and stay home when sick.

People who have plenty of sick time still come to work so that they "dont get too far behind" and then end up infecting half the office which puts EVERYONE behind.

Humans.....

I truly hope that you or your family doesn’t contract it. Your “opinion” is selfish and frankly ignorant.
If someone you know dies of this maybe your opinion will change
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So we are reporting all cases with their own article.

Apple is on lockdown, so this isn’t that newsworthy...but we gotta keep grabbing headlines.

The media is starting to do a real disservice to this effort.
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Let’s be serious. It’s not 4% mortality.

.5% would be over a million deaths. Just saying

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Most people will get coronavirus, just a matter of time, I understand the importance of reporting this but eventually there will be lots of them, reporting on each of them will be too much by then.

Most people? If the crisis is managed well, a less than tiny percentage of the population will get it. Even when in China only about 100k got infected out of 1.4 billion.

 

[maerz001]

Out of total cases the death rate is 4% so far. Thats why people are flipping out .....numbers are being severely twisted.
7,128 deaths DIVIDED BY 181,331 cases. Use that fancy smart phone!

Thats a 96 percent survival rate overall. And that factors in the high elderly death rate. The under 60 year old survival rate is 99 percent.


But Keep panicking!

Your smart phone does tell you that the question was recovered cases and not reported cases. Think about it. Cos of the reported cases still some will die.

And the point is that our health care system can’t handle high numbers. Thats why recovered/dead numbers will get even more interesting

 

[justperry]

Most people? If the crisis is managed well, a less than tiny percentage of the population will get it. Even when in China only about 100k got infected out of 1.4 billion.

Yes most people, probably more than 60%, you might look that up.
China has many more cases than you think, probably 10 fold or more, lots of people were
carriers without any symptoms.
Right now I have symptoms, I think it's the normal flu, I can't get a test so I don't know.
And...yes, I stay away from my job.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Yes most people, probably more than 60%, you might look that up.
China has many more cases than you think, probably 10 fold or more, lots of people were
carriers without any symptoms.
Right now I have symptoms, I think it's the normal flu, I can't get a test so I don't know.
And...yes, I stay away from my job.

"probably more than 60%"
"probably 10 fold or more"

And where are you getting that number from? People were saying the same thing about China back in January, and that 20 fold never materialized. Based on current studies, truly asymptomatic cases are rare. Most who get infected will show at least some symptoms.

 

[ZipZap]

So there was one available test kit in Culver City...great. Bet 1/2 of the Apple spaceship is infected. just saying....

 

[justperry]

And where are you getting that number from? Based on current studies, truly asymptomatic cases are rare. Most who get infected will show at least some symptoms.

There's plenty of them, like..leaders from Germany/France/The Netherlands...all of them said it will be more than the above mentioned percentage.

60% to 70% of the German population will be infected by the coronavirus, Merkel says
'De komende tijd zal een groot deel van de bevolking met het virus besmet raken' Dutch
Coronavirus 'could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'

There are far more cases in the states than what is reported, there were no tests available, wait until numbers spike in a few days/in a week or so.
Plenty of people have no symptoms at all!

Edit: There's this quote in the above (The Guardian) link, food for thought...

Maybe this will come in waves. Maybe the virus is going to attenuate its lethality because it certainly doesn’t help it if it kills everybody in its path, because it will get killed as well,” he said.

 

[jntdroid]

The problem with all of the panic has nothing to do with who is or isn't getting sick. The problem is the economic impact. Small businesses will go under because of this. Some large businesses will end up filing bankruptcy or making huge cuts (i.e. firing people) to stay afloat. If anybody was close to retiring and totally dependent on their 401k, if they weren't properly diversified they've just lost 20-30% of their retirement fund in a matter of weeks.

The fact of the matter is the virus is something we should all take seriously (just like a really bad Flu year), but is not something we should be panicking about. The panicking is going to hurt more lives than the virus.

 

[Doctor Q]

Culver City and Santa Moncia are part of the greater Los Angeles area.

L.A. is huge, but Apple's Culver City offices are only about 7 miles from the Santa Monica store.

 

[justperry]

The problem with all of the panic has nothing to do with who is or isn't getting sick. The problem is the economic impact. Small businesses will go under because of this. Large businesses will end up filing bankruptcy or making huge cuts (i.e. firing people) to stay afloat. If anybody was close to retiring and totally dependent on their 401k, if they weren't properly diversified they've just lost 20-30% of their retirement fund in a matter of weeks.

The fact of the matter is the virus is something we should all take seriously, but is not something we should be panicking about. The panicking is going to hurt more lives than the virus.

Bold: Depends on your age/health...

 

[jntdroid]

Bold: Depends on your age/health...

How so? Panicking never helps any situation. A bad case of the flu is just as dangerous for the elderly / immune-compromised, but I don't see stock markets crashing and businesses shutting down when that happens.

Edit: and even if I'm incorrect about that last sentence, it still doesn't justify panic.

 

[justperry]

How so? Panicking never helps any situation. A bad case of the flu is just as dangerous for the elderly / immune-compromised, but I don't see stock markets crashing and businesses shutting down when that happens.

Edit: and even if I'm incorrect about that last sentence, it still doesn't justify panic.

Pretty sure there are lots of elderly people panicking right now, and rightfully so.
Doesn't stop there, what about their relatives, nobody wants to lose their close relatives, so yeah, I can imagine people panicking.

 

[recoil80]

A coronavirus cautionary tale from Italy: Don’t do what we did - The Boston Globe

Many of us were too selfish to follow suggestions to change our behavior. Now we’re in lockdown and people are needlessly dying.

www.bostonglobe.com

Don’t make our mistakes folks.

 

[Cycom]

Thoughts like this are literally going to be responsible for more deaths. You have blood on your hands.
>2% death rate and a 14 day incubation period where you show no symptoms but you can spread it is extremely dangerous and nothing like the seasonal flu.
We need to slow down the spread so our hospitals have enough beds and respirators for the people with serious symptoms.

lmao. What a ridiculous statement. “Blood on your hands.” Oooook, homie.

 

[jerryk]

It should fade away during the summer but I expect it will be back in the winter cold / flu season.

I'm wondering how much time will pass before it's ignored like the flu ?

Unclear the effect that warmer weather will have. This is not influenza. It is a new virus mutation (aka Novel) that is harmful to humans. Humans have not had experience with it and we have minimal immunity to it. And even the Southern hemisphere where it is summer now is experiencing cases such as Tom Hanks and his wife, Rita Wilson.

In a year or so, when a vaccine is available we can start to build immunity to it. At that time we can start thinking about as just another contagious disease.
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Almost all the deaths have been older people with existing conditions (i.e. if you are < 70 without medical issues, the death rate is very low).

Also, I surmise that the number of cases is much higher then what is reported. Some people show no symptoms or very minor symptoms (i.e. they are not identified). This would make the death rate even much lower than the 1.7% you posted.

1/2 of Spain's deaths are in people under 40. Obesity seems to be a factor.

 

[haganah]

How so? Panicking never helps any situation. A bad case of the flu is just as dangerous for the elderly / immune-compromised, but I don't see stock markets crashing and businesses shutting down when that happens.

Edit: and even if I'm incorrect about that last sentence, it still doesn't justify panic.

So you think that the world's largest companies with the most sophisticated risk groups are panicking and not accounting for how to address this properly. And when treasuries are significantly impacted and banks are impacted because companies are all drawing on their revolving credit lines, because again, their sophisticated treasury desks all decided it's times...you think they're all wrong and just panicking right?

 

[jntdroid]

Pretty sure there are lots of elderly people panicking right now, and rightfully so.
Doesn't stop there, what about their relatives, nobody wants to lose their close relatives, so yeah, I can imagine people panicking.

I never said people weren't panicking; I said it wasn't helpful and only makes things worse. Sorry if that point was lost in my communication.
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So you think that the world's largest companies with the most sophisticated risk groups are panicking and not accounting for how to address this properly. And when treasuries are significantly impacted and banks are impacted because companies are all drawing on their revolving credit lines, because again, their sophisticated treasury desks all decided it's times...you think they're all wrong and just panicking right?

Well first, I never said the largest and most sophisticated companies would have a problem. And second, all of those moves you refer to are a reaction to the initial market panic and sell-off. Treasuries are at all time lows due to the Fed's intervention and the flight to safety from former equity-holders. If anything, that will feed liquidity into the system once people have some semblance of comfort level with doing anything outside of their homes... i.e., once people stop panicking and realizing that most of the 30+% losses we've seen the past few weeks were fed by panic and there are some dirt-cheap sectors to buy into. The market losses have created some legit economic problems, but a lot of those problems didn't exist 6 weeks ago, at least in the U.S.

It's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. A few years ago when Harvey hit Houston, it caused a lot of fear in other areas about gas shortages. I have relatives in the DFW area for example. They had gas shortages... not because of Harvey, but because everybody in that metroplex panicked and went and loaded up on gas at the same time, disrupting the normal supply chain levels.