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not too surprising considering early reports on the moto 360

unless they cut features, the battery life can only be so good

The 360 uses a 45nm chip and software that isn't optimized to the hardware (relative to Apple). If Apple throws a power sipping chip in they should be able to hit 2-3 days.
 
When did I say since I don't like watches nobody should wear them? I understand in some professions and in some situations they are preferable. You guys are the ones making this a big deal.


I'm not.... Look at your post you said "is it that hard to look at your phone.., I do it and I'm in healthcare". And I was just pointing out how others may not have the same luxury as you. Or how it's easier for others to just look at their wrist.
 
I'm not.... Look at your post you said "is it that hard to look at your phone.., I do it and I'm in healthcare". And I was just pointing out how others may not have the same luxury as you. Or how it's easier for others to just look at their wrist.

Yes, because they were ridiculing ME for not wearing a watch. I was just saying it's not hard to use a phone for the purpose. I guess for them it is. I did not say what you suggest, in any way. If people like watches, that's fine.
 
Yes, because they were ridiculing ME for not wearing a watch. I was just saying it's not hard to use a phone for the purpose. I guess for them it is. I did not say what you suggest, in any way. If people like watches, that's fine.


Than I apologize. I must have read your comment out of context. I thought you were speaking in general,not to a specific person/persons.

I apologize. :)
 
If battery life is only a day out of the gate, then within a year or two, it will need to be charged twice or even thrice a day.

Unacceptable for an expensive piece of kit.
 
To me, 1+ days of battery is fine. I charge my phone every night, I can charge a watch, too. It's when it goes less than a day that it becomes a problem.

Except I keep seeing reports that a part of the health monitoring features is sleep monitoring. What good is that if the watch is charging on a nightstand? I suppose if that feature doesn't matter to you and you don't mins charging it nightly then as little as 20 hours of battery would be enough. I would prefer at least 3 days and would love to see it last weeks without being plugged in (not likely at all).
 
Hoping this is just some misdirection in order to WOW us. Apple does a good job of tightly integrating their software to custom hardware chips. That alone should make it last much longer than the Motorola watch we just read about.

We'll know soon. I expect any mentions of battery life on Tuesday [wow, feels nice to be able to say that finally] to be vague anyway.
 
Never said that. Not for the most part, although the iMacs and macbooks probably use a lot of stock items.

If you read I said they don't make things
they may spec things, request certain designs, or do design work in some areas.

But I think we all know there is not a secret Apple factory churning out Apple computing components.

Who makes iPhone screens, memory chips, modem chips, the glass, the camera etc etc?
It's not Apple.
they have factories and buy machines to make housings.

The real truth is somewhere in the middle though. Apple chooses higher quality parts than most, when it comes to screws and whatnot....they make their own chassis...they design the CPU/GPU outright then have a foundry provider churn them out, such as Samsung...they have designed screens as well as touch screen layers in screens...they pushed Corning to make Gorilla Glass and now they're supposedly making their own Sapphire Glass...they've waited for advances in things like LTE before jumping on board, not just going with the first models out of the gate like their competitors...they design their own camera for the most part, sensors are obviously made by someone else...NAND memory is something they've massively invested in going all the way back to the iPod days, they are sitting on a stockpile (or a virtual one that is contracted)...

In the end, it comes down to the price each manufacturer is willing to pay and where those manufacturers cut corners. Apple has shown to actually pay more for some parts even if not necessary to push for better quality...and for all the crying about 1 GB of RAM, while I would love to see it in my iPad, it may be an issue of supply or possible battery life...it's not an expensive enough component to cut corners on.
 
The 360 uses a 45nm chip and software that isn't optimized to the hardware (relative to Apple). If Apple throws a power sipping chip in they should be able to hit 2-3 days.

I'm all for it, but I think we are looking at all day battery life (its looking like the 360 may come up a bit short of that but I suppose it depends on ones definition of all day). Apple will want to save power, yes, but they will also want performance.
 
You'd still have to take it off and place it on the charging surface. The only advantages to wireless charging that I can see are that it's slightly easier to place the device on the surface than to plug it in and that it does away with the need for a charging socket thus improving waterproofing prospects.

Unless they have perfected true wireless charging whereby your watch would charge whenever within 3meters of a base station. You could have one near your bed and have the device charge while wearing it at night.
 
Except I keep seeing reports that a part of the health monitoring features is sleep monitoring. What good is that if the watch is charging on a nightstand? I suppose if that feature doesn't matter to you and you don't mins charging it nightly then as little as 20 hours of battery would be enough. I would prefer at least 3 days and would love to see it last weeks without being plugged in (not likely at all).

Supposedly, this particular wireless charging method has a distance of 3 to 6 meters (not feet as has been reported), and charges slowly enough that a phone will not charge while in use but also will not lose any of its battery power.
 
It seems like Apple really won't have "new and exciting products in the pipeline this year", as I expected.

The iWatch isn't expected until next year. The Photos app for Yosemite isn't until next year.

So again, since Tim Cook has been CEO for 3 years, we still get the same old Macs, iPhones, and iPads.

I still find it strange that NO ONE has leaked the iWatch parts yet. But then again we don't get Mac "rumors" anymore either, thus the misleading website name.
 
no doubt in my mind the iWatch has the best smartwatch battery life this year, a custom 20nm iWatch processor designed by Apple will absolutely blow away these Snapdragon 400 cores they use in the Android Wear watches.
 
Interesting... I know this sounds rather paranoid, but would it be detrimental in some way sitting at a desk with pure energy being sent through the air?

Check out Witricity's site.

Witricity faqs/


Is WiTricity technology safe?
WiTricity technology is a non-radiative mode of energy transfer, relying instead on the magnetic near field. Magnetic fields interact very weakly with biological organisms—people and animals—and are scientifically regarded to be safe. WiTricity products are being designed to comply with applicable safety standards and regulations.
 
The 360 uses a 45nm chip and software that isn't optimized to the hardware (relative to Apple). If Apple throws a power sipping chip in they should be able to hit 2-3 days.

yep, a 20nm custom iWatch SoC solely for the iWatch will absolutely blow away these Snapdragon 400 cores used in the Android Wear watches
 
""People who have talked to Apple about the watch said that Apple employees have set low expectations," Lessin wrote.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/iwatch-battery-life-2014-9#ixzz3CTeOkIGd"

This is probably the furthest from the source info I've ever seen. Apple employees could be Apple store employees for all we know...and who are these people who have talked to Apple? Not that I disbelieve the info but this is not much to go on at all.
 
It seems like Apple really won't have "new and exciting products in the pipeline this year", as I expected.

The iWatch isn't expected until next year. The Photos app for Yosemite isn't until next year.

So again, since Tim Cook has been CEO for 3 years, we still get the same old Macs, iPhones, and iPads.

I still find it strange that NO ONE has leaked the iWatch parts yet. But then again we don't get Mac "rumors" anymore either, thus the misleading website name.

lmao how is it misleading? its called Apple not letting absolutely any details of the iWatch leak out at all, and this is a fantastic idea
 
It seems like Apple really won't have "new and exciting products in the pipeline this year", as I expected.

The iWatch isn't expected until next year. The Photos app for Yosemite isn't until next year.

So again, since Tim Cook has been CEO for 3 years, we still get the same old Macs, iPhones, and iPads.

I still find it strange that NO ONE has leaked the iWatch parts yet. But then again we don't get Mac "rumors" anymore either, thus the misleading website name.

You know, the pipeline exists this year...as for launching this year, shouldn't we wait and see next week? How are we so sure this is the same old iPhone or iPad anyway?
 
yep, a 20nm custom iWatch SoC solely for the iWatch will absolutely blow away these Snapdragon 400 cores used in the Android Wear watches

We shall see, bear in mind if they are creating a new chip for the watch (has that been confirmed?), it will be first gen..

Not all these watches are using snap 400s but that's beside the point
 
Ill go out on a limb and predict that a) battery life will be greater than 24 hours, b) there will be some very unique feature to help accomplish this, like battery in the watch band, and 3) Expect some component of motion to be used as a self-charging feature.
 
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