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I find it hilarious that everyone is talking about Aperture and that nobody seems to care that much about iPhoto changing.

iPhoto was always irrelevant for pro's. We stopped using it in 2004 and it was the first to deleted when a new Mac was set up. We learned that it just blowed the library size to much (creating to many copies of the original, but I can not tell if that still is the case)...
 
It'd be very un-Apple, and less likely than snowballs in heck, but I'd love to see Apple Open Source it and let the community have at it.
 
Oh, man. The writing was on the wall long ago, but it's still really disappointing.

Aperture always gave you fantastic value for your money.

If Apple don't want to continue development of it, maybe they could spin it off or sell it. There are lots of Mac companies who could be interested (Pixelmator, perhaps?)

EDIT: Oh, Lightroom is actually available as a standalone product. Also, Adobe said last year that they have no plans to make it cloud-only:

Predictably, the first question at the hangout was about the future of Lightroom. Hogarty tried to ease concerns about Lightroom's future: 'Basically we have no plans to make Lightroom subscription-only at any point in the future. We have plans to make Lightroom available in its current form pretty much indefinitely.' And, while he wouldn't use the word 'forever,' he confirmed that he meant 'for the foreseeable future.'

Hogarty stressed Lightroom was distinct from Creative Suite: 'We can confirm that Lightroom is still going to be a bit different [from software such as Photoshop and In Design]- we don't plan on adding any Creative Cloud-specific features that you would only get if you were a subscriber to Creative Cloud.' Instead, he said, the team was 'investigating cloud-based offerings that are not specifically part of the Creative Cloud. We're looking at cloud-based workflows.' These are the examples previewed on Scott Kelby's online show 'The Grid,' which could be offered 'incrementally to the Creative Cloud or outside the Creative Cloud.'
 
I'm also worryied by that Apple now includes an "upgrade path" to Lightroom. It makes me wonder how much of a replacement the upcoming Photos will become.
 
Good judgment on choosing Lightroom, unless it moves to subscription-only.
 
Great news. Apple is moving to the future with a compelling new application to meet all our photography needs. Everyone should be excited by this news.

I hope for your sake you're being ironic or merely supply flame bait. Kind of hard to tell. You should be careful; some people will definitely take this exceeding dumb comment seriously.
 
:mad: The only people that seem to exist for apple are consumers of mass media with hi bandwidth. They've got the money, so why don't they keep things humming along for the pro? :confused:
 
Blerg

Lightroom might be best for people who have the time to piddle around with individual photos all day, but I've always found Aperture to be perfect for quickly culling a large job then exporting the best for more serious editing in Photoshop.

I've still never figured out how to get Lightroom to show me just the rated images and all that what-not, at least when I have figured it out it takes 3 steps to Aperture's 1-step-right-on-the-screen-at-all-times.

Maybe that's your problem, you've not learnt how to use it. Managed to quickly edit 70 odd pictures in a couple of hours the other night for a job I was on. As for find rated images, I don't use that but it's probably a option under attribute (when in library view)
 
I'm also worryied by that Apple now includes an "upgrade path" to Lightroom. It makes me wonder how much of a replacement the upcoming Photos will become.

None whatsoever. It will do less than iPhoto. Guaranteed.
 
Why does nearly every one here think that they soon MUST store their photos in the cloud?

Don't like the cloud? Don't use it.

New Photos app, LR, the abandoned Aperature.... just load your images from your imaging device on to your hard drive. You can still do that.
 
You'll probably still be able to use the latest version of Apeture on your Mac, calm down.

A professional can't stake their business on unsupported software, unless they don't plan on being professionals for very long.
 
But once Aperture has gone Adobe have the Pro field to themselves. How long do you think it will be before they start moving to monthly subscription for LR with no other option?

And you know they will! That's going to suck. I'll be sticking with LR5 for the foreseeable future.
 
I haven't posted on here since 2013 but this is so frustrating to me I need to let my anger out. :mad: The problem that I have with switching to Lightroom is that none of the adjustments can be carried over. From time to time I go back and readjust my adjustments as my style of photography changes. It seems like if I switch I either have to move over the originals or the edited versions. Hopefully their upgrade path fixes that problem. Now I can't decide if I want to start using Lightroom immediately or wait. What a mess.
 
Tim

Just read that Apple is killing off Aperture and leaving professionals in the hole again

you did a HORRIBLE job with new versions of PAGES and KEYNOTE - why the hell would you do that to Aperture?

You’ve got a TON of cash and you’re showing nothing but greed these days. How about doing something inspiring instead of dumbing everything down so it can run on an iPhone????

Very very disappointed
I don't understand the point of hate mail. You're talking to the CEO of Apple and all you can think to say is "you suck"?

Why not express your desires, or ask a question only he can answer definitively?

You could have expressed support for the company and for Aperture; you could have asked if the rumors have any merit; you could have explained which features of Aperture you most hope are provided by Photos or which features of Photos you least like; you could have explained that the cloud isn't for everyone.

You could have said that these kinds of disruptive changes to their product line make it risky for professionals to stake their livelihood on Apple's technologies.

Instead you just screamed at the most popular kid in class that you hate him. Maybe he'll be nice enough to say "I'm sorry you feel that way", but most likely he'll see the all caps and duplicate punctuation before he even gets that far and will click the trash can.
 
Aperture always gave you fantastic value for your money. Lightroom requires a subscription to Adobe.

You can purchase Lightroom and keep it forever. No sub needed, it is available in a adobe cc subscription as part of the full creative suite or the photographers bundle (with Photoshop).
 
A professional can't stake their business on unsupported software, unless they don't plan on being professionals for very long.

Exactly. It won't take long after RAW compatibility updates cease for Aperture to grow impractical.
 
I dont find it THAT surprising.

iPhoto was slow as hell and Lightroom wiped the floor with Aperture.

I dont think Aperture was really worth the effort anymore, it would take a ton of work and hiring to get to feature- and performance parity with Lightroom
 
Adobe is far from a monopoly. . . excluding maybe Photoshop.

Quark = InDesign
Avid = Premiere Pro
Motion = After Effects
ProTools/CuBase = Audition
Photo Mechanic = Lightroom

Etc.

The list goes on and more specialized software exists for apps like Flash and Dreamweaver.

Adobe does have a great business model going with the whole unification of the creative apps.

Interesting it was the "professionals" who kept Apple alive when it almost went out of business... now they are nothing more than consumer whores... Really do I want to wear Beat headphones or Grado... next we'll have Car Play for Kia...
 
Maybe that's your problem, you've not learnt how to use it.

It's not a matter of learning it, it's a matter of the developers' obvious priorities.

Aperture has always been geared towards people keeping large libraries. Lightroom has been geared toward people with fast jobs who want to work quickly and then archive it and get it out of there.

Both programs can be used for the other workflow, obviously, but it's been clear that each one has had its own world-view as to which one matters more.
 
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