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Somebody noticed the irony? Microsoft transformed its business into a cloud and service business - while Apple invented or transformed ... nothing!! (During the time of ms transformation).
Apple just dreams of becoming a service company. There isn‘t even a toolchain for Apple devices to create services - compared to MS where a docker container is nothing more that hitting an option button.

While Microsoft tries to conquer the world, Apple created an island. Far away from open standards and far away from anything other than Apple. Apple silicon paves the way to become even less compatible with anything out there.

I think the absolute opposite. I still can’t use any of microsoft product without hiccup. Horrible support for my language and formatting. Google docs are way better about cross platform and web app services. Office 365 is just product that they tried to rob recurring money instead of one time payment. No transformation whatsoever. Microsoft Team and Skype also doesn’t work. If they do work, Zoom won’t have a chance to rise in recent months. One of my customer is Microsoft affiliate and tried to use Team for WFH and meetings, eventually ditched that and used Zoom instead because it take more time to fix problems than actually doing works.

Not to mention Windows that gave me bluescreen once a month after Windows updates despite me having the latest PC and using it for gaming alone and installed only Windows, Steam, and Battlenet, compare to my Macs that I have been using for everything else through more than ten years without a single crash.

The new macOS will be more compatible than ever, namely all the millions apps in iOS and iPadOS are waiting in the queue line to make it through the new OS. Also macOS supports virtual machines, java, etc. The only thing it doesn’t support is Windows. If you want to use Windows software or use Mac to use Windows then you buy a wrong machine.
 
Somebody noticed the irony? Microsoft transformed its business into a cloud and service business - while Apple invented or transformed ... nothing!! (During the time of ms transformation).
Apple just dreams of becoming a service company. There isn‘t even a toolchain for Apple devices to create services - compared to MS where a docker container is nothing more that hitting an option button.

While Microsoft tries to conquer the world, Apple created an island. Far away from open standards and far away from anything other than Apple. Apple silicon paves the way to become even less compatible with anything out there.
Ehhh... what about the iPhone? I think that invented and transformed quite a lot and Apple is not dreaming of becoming a services company. Why would they otherwise develop Apple silicon? Woulden't it be better to invest that money into something that is not hardware? They just want to make more money with services for many reasons, but not because they want to become a solely services company.

And less compatible? All iOS and iPadOS apps now work on your Mac, I think compatibility just greatly increased.
 
Not sure he has anything to be jealous of at this point, especially with AMD and Nvidia releasing such powerful hardware in the past couple of months, but I guess time will tell, since today's Macs' stuff is probably nowhere near as powerful as the more expensive hardware.
 
This throwback made my day! Wasn’t expecting it at all. The “I’m a Mac, I’m a PC” series, to me, is Apple’s most memorable marketing campaign.

[I’d have said it was their 1984 ad if I was alive to have seen it myself. 😜]
I was alive and I didn't see it live. Few people knew about it and it was shown, as a commercial, a grand total of 1 time at that years Super Bowl Halftime. I didn't like commercials then either, and I have no memory of whether I watched any of that Super Bowl.But I can guarantee that I didn't watch the Halftime.
 
I think the absolute opposite. I still can’t use any of microsoft product without hiccup. Horrible support for my language and formatting. Google docs are way better about cross platform and web app services. Office 365 is just product that they tried to rob recurring money instead of one time payment. No transformation whatsoever. Microsoft Team and Skype also doesn’t work. If they do work, Zoom won’t have a chance to rise in recent months. One of my customer is Microsoft affiliate and tried to use Team for WFH and meetings, eventually ditched that and used Zoom instead because it take more time to fix problems than actually doing works.

Not to mention Windows that gave me bluescreen once a month after Windows updates despite me having the latest PC and using it for gaming alone and installed only Windows, Steam, and Battlenet, compare to my Macs that I have been using for everything else through more than ten years without a single crash.

The new macOS will be more compatible than ever, namely all the millions apps in iOS and iPadOS are waiting in the queue line to make it through the new OS. Also macOS supports virtual machines, java, etc. The only thing it doesn’t support is Windows. If you want to use Windows software or use Mac to use Windows then you buy a wrong machine.

I'm neutral on the actual computers. They seem to be fast and the batteries last a long time but there are a lot of WinTel specific programs that may never be adapted to Apple. Having a processor that is 1.5-3X faster than an X86 but only for programs coded specifically for it isn't really that impressive. If those software houses write Mac specific versions and the speed increase is that much then yes, its impressive. But there are now 2 additional requirements that at least the game industry didn't really bother doing with Apple: Have to support and maintain 2 different OS's and use Apples Metal as their graphics engine. Game designers haven't been tripping over themselves to do either. There are lots of other non-game programs as well that are compiled for Intel based Macs and how many will be converted to this new chip? If its most or all then there isn't problem.

I'll wait and see what the software situation looks like in 6 months. The hardware I'm not worried about.
 
Some don't like "PC" referring to just Windows. They feel that should be the name for all computers. For better and for worse, these series of ads solidified "PC" as just windows
 
I would say the Think Different campaign is their most memorable, and profoundly impacted their brand. You could see echos of it in the videos they presented today.
The one shown at the beginning? That was lame and slightly inaccurate imo. Loved the pc vs Mac ad at the end though.
 
The one shown at the beginning? That was lame and slightly inaccurate imo. Loved the pc vs Mac ad at the end though.

That’s why it was referred to as echo though. A mere shadow of what it used to be but the idea is not totally forgotten.
If you never saw the original ads from that campaign, I recommend to check them out.
 
Those ads got me into Apple, I remember seeing them on TV and being so mad someone insulting PC. I went to my local Apple store to see how bad these Macs must be. Been using Mac exclusively since then...
 
I think the absolute opposite. I still can’t use any of microsoft product without hiccup. Horrible support for my language and formatting. Google docs are way better about cross platform and web app services. Office 365 is just product that they tried to rob recurring money instead of one time payment. No transformation whatsoever. Microsoft Team and Skype also doesn’t work. If they do work, Zoom won’t have a chance to rise in recent months. One of my customer is Microsoft affiliate and tried to use Team for WFH and meetings, eventually ditched that and used Zoom instead because it take more time to fix problems than actually doing works.

Not to mention Windows that gave me bluescreen once a month after Windows updates despite me having the latest PC and using it for gaming alone and installed only Windows, Steam, and Battlenet, compare to my Macs that I have been using for everything else through more than ten years without a single crash.

The new macOS will be more compatible than ever, namely all the millions apps in iOS and iPadOS are waiting in the queue line to make it through the new OS. Also macOS supports virtual machines, java, etc. The only thing it doesn’t support is Windows. If you want to use Windows software or use Mac to use Windows then you buy a wrong machine.
Pls read again. I said it won’t be compatible to anything else but Apple. Will Apple GPU allow OpenGL (for Blender) and how slow will it be?
Will it be possible to do some Android development on Apple silicon? Who writes ans optimizes a JVM for Apple silicon? IntelliJ, AndroidStudio all run on a JVM.

Apple had a great start with macOS based in OpenSource BSD, OpenSource OpenGL, OpenSource gcc compiler toolchain, OpenSource CUPS, Webkit based on OpenSource KHTML ...

Now we see Apple transforming into a lockdown company inventing proprietary stuff like Metal (feels like MS in the 90ths) while MS has its focus on OSS like Apple did. The whole MS cloud thing is based on OSS, Linux became a part of Windows with WSL and MS couldn’t care less about hardware cause it doesn’t care about the platform - since services are the future. Funny if it wouldn’t be sad.
Would be really cool if Apple created an open ARM platform but it seems like Apple is using ARM technology to build a wall. No more eGPU, only Apple silicon. No more Hackintosh, no more kexts - just Apple. This is going to be a lonely island.
 
That’s was fun and all but I don’t really want to return to the Mac vs Pc battle. It’s over. PCs won. Mac is doing really well without having to do speed comparisons. Probably ok for this leapfrog product but go back to what Makes the Mac great. It’s the user experience. Not benchmarking. People don’t care.
 
If these really were as fast as they say they are they would be comparing them to specific CPUs and brands, "Ryzen Thread Ripper 3990X". Not hiding it on an arbitrary graph. A base mode mobile version of the Nvidia 3000 series would run rings around this integrated graphics garbage. Apple knows this which is why they didn't throw down the gauntlet, Just "top-selling windows laptop", whatever that means.

These are underpowered junk, and Apple knows it which is why they are hiding any direct comparisons. But these will be in the hands of reviewers and benchmarkers soon, and we will know just how well they stack up to a "top-selling windows laptop". My money is on a Razer blade running rings around the MBP and at half the price.
 
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