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Given the cost to develop the Pro Line, I wonder how profitable it is; as the sales price is prohibitive for most prosumers. At half-price; it would be something that the "average" (imho) prosumer would consider. But, unless you make a bit more than the average engineer/programmer - I just can't imagine dropping that kind of coin.

Bottom line: Does Apple realize a Net Profit off this line?
 
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"BPF [blade pass frequency]. So you don't get huge harmonics that tend to be super annoying."...
Blade Harmonics = cool (figuratively and literally)
 
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With the amount of emphasis and design philosophy structured towards avoiding LOUD NOISE at all cost...couldn't Apple have went towards liquid cooling? I'll never understand Apple's love for silence at the cost of adequate/bad cooling in all of their machines.a

Liquid Cooling simply uses a liquid as a "very efficient" means of moving heat away from components. The Heat still needs to be dissipated, you have a hot liquid instead of hot solids. Liquids are easier to transfer heat - or a "heat exchanger" as most facility managers would call it.

Now, you have a new set of problems. You have a warm liquid, that tends to do one of two things; become a bio-broth of bacteria, algae, fungus and clog up the system; or a highly toxic broth that may corrode the materials through which it flows. The warm liquid will flow across dissimilar metals, plastics, silicon based seals and likely come in contact with air.

If the heating, corrosion and eventual oxidation create a crack, the liquid is under pressure and will begin to leak, as it leaks you now have what is likely a highly conductive liquid spreading across your electronics.

There are liquids that are less likely to do this, such as florinerts - but they are expensive and toxic and generally not sold into the consumer market.
 
With the amount of emphasis and design philosophy structured towards avoiding LOUD NOISE at all cost...couldn't Apple have went towards liquid cooling? I'll never understand Apple's love for silence at the cost of adequate/bad cooling in all of their machines.a

The article answers your question about why Apple engineered the cooling system, and I'm thinking that Apple knows what it's doing in this regard.
 
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Excellent to see Apple adopting a more traditional setup for cooling then some attempt to reinvent the wheel

This cooling solution should be more than adequate.
 
With the amount of emphasis and design philosophy structured towards avoiding LOUD NOISE at all cost...couldn't Apple have went towards liquid cooling? I'll never understand Apple's love for silence at the cost of adequate/bad cooling in all of their machines.a

Personally, I find pump noise more annoying than fan noise. There are a number of videos comparing Air and Liquid, and most conclude that air is quieter and more effective than CLCs. CLCs are certainly not the same as custom loops, but custom loops are expensive, require maintenance, and take easy modularity out of the equation.

I like how Apple did the cooling, from a “I’ve watched reviews” perspective.
 
i‘m going down to my banker today, take out a second mortgage. (See what I did there?)
 
I remember buying the first cheese grater Mac Pro years ago and I paid like $2400. They started at $1999 if I recall correctly. Why are they $6,000 now? Are they really that much better than a comparable Windows PC?
They were much more mainstream machines back then. These days the market is much smaller and more niche. So small, that they're not even going to the trouble of setting up an assembly line in China.
 
I remember buying the first cheese grater Mac Pro years ago and I paid like $2400. They started at $1999 if I recall correctly. Why are they $6,000 now? Are they really that much better than a comparable Windows PC?
Do your homework! The price is not outlandish to a Windows Workstation, the thingy you are missing is the cost of the Xeon W chips from Intel. While, these appear to be custom builds from intel (have way more cache than standard Ws), the cost is comparable. Of course you have to do some work to find it, because these Xeon's are new and the ECC memory to support them is difficult to find. I found some slower 128GB sticks to proof the cost of the 1.5 TB build, and just the sticks alone cost over $20,000 - and there were the slower 2666. Of course, you could compare to an i7, that's way cheaper
 
How innovative is it really? It's cooling fans... I never hear my Noctua's either.....
1) maybe Noctua is doing a similar thing on the fans, 2) the whole solution was being discussed, not just the fans, but the creation of air tunnels to increase the cooling.
 
The design is wonderful and very functional. Remember some of the best design inspiration come from everyday items.
 
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