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Apple Engineers Explain New Mac Pro's Innovative Cooling Features
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This is awesome, if I lived in the Northeast. I could warm my apartment just from running an Mac Pro.
Not so great down South where it's hotter than the devil's butt crack. Well, that's an issue with all computers that uses top of the line processors, not just Mac's. I hope I don't need to have a dedicated AC just to use a Mac Pro during the 100 degree summers here.
Not so great down South where it's hotter than the devil's butt crack. Well, that's an issue with all computers that uses top of the line processors, not just Mac's. I hope I don't need to have a dedicated AC just to use a Mac Pro during the 100 degree summers here.
We are talking about the internal cooling fins, not the holes in the back.
the fins are different than the cutouts. Fins run in parallel and air is channeled through them, hopefully in a turbulent manner. Heat from the components under the fins radiates into the fins and is carried away by the airflow.
They’ve dove liquid cooled in the past. One model of the Power Mac G5. Would imagine it was a service nightmare due to the chemical used for it. There’s a video of a vintage Mac collector who received one, it was damaged in shipping and broke the pipe. Bricked the entire Mac.
you can afford a Mac Pro but not an air conditioner?
Dust will still exist regardless of your HVAC situation at home / office.
Dust is perfectly natural and normal accumulation of micro particles. While your home HVAC will do a good job at reducing a lot of the airborne dust, it can never be 100%.
A computer, with constant airflow will be a natural vacuum to suck up dust particles that we all shed off constantly (a lot of dust is just skin particles that we shed). unless you have a clean room that has the proper setup to eliminate dust, you will always have dust.
And computers, as I said with the fans always going act almost like a vacuum in that it will suck in anything in the air around the workstation. Dust included.
The thing that is oddly questionable is why there is no dust filter on the front intake. if the air flow is properly balanced (which I would imagine so), than a single dust filter would legitimately reduce the potential dust intake by leaps and bounds.
However, lack of dust filters is a common theme in a lot of cases. this isn't something that Apple's exclusively missed. When shopping for cases, it's often an additional featureset that one has to look out for.
At exponential technology we would test our chips (PowerPC) in macs with added liquid cooling (Allowing us to overclock, etc). I seem to recall that the liquid cooling caused lots of problems and had to be babysat quite a bit.
not really true with modern liquid cooling. Especially the All in Ones. They are fairly plug in and forget. no maintenance required.
They however, do have a shelf life and will need to be fully replaced once they loose their efficacy.
No real babysitting needed with modern coolers.
Go with the 58 core model, it will handle Netflix at 8K and stream some tunes to another room without buffer issues.
Probably. But it wouldn’t at half price.
The average prosumer buys MacBook Pro, iMac, iMac Pro or mini. Ten years ago they had to buy a Mac Pro to get the performance they need. Now they don’t.
In fact, even many pros don’t need Mac Pro anymore. They buy MBP, iMac, iMac Pro or mini. Few need Xeon tower workstations anymore, but those who do now have the choice again.
What I like to see is a (Temperature) test with and without the outer casing, would like to see if there's any change in temperature and noise levels.
They already tried that in PowerMac G5.
And you do remember this Mac Pro 2019 has totally no internal cable at all right? Everything including power is carried by PCBs. So a ugly tube is 100% not in this picture.
And almost all rack mounted servers are using this kind of air cooling system.
PS: water cooling is still air cooled by fans. Water can not cool your system. It just transfer heat faster in longer distance so you don't have to put large heatsink just on top of your heat generate components.
The aluminium casing is not cheap either, I bet it's also quite more expensive to make than most think it is.
I mean, yes, but you just described marketing departments in general. I didn't read the article directly, but from what was quoted here it sounded like, at the very least, the engineers were basically just saying "we designed these fans from scratch for this application, and we used industry-accepted 'best' techniques to make them as good as they could be."
But I can totally buy the rest of the article being marketing spin, because that's what marketing departments do.
Is that yet another tired cheese grater/shredder joke there, or are you really pretending like you have a computer better than a new Mac Pro?
My Hyundai will literally "crush" anything from Apple.
yeah, that case looks serious.
There's been a copy already that mimmicks the look of the case (even down to the round bits, Love the round bits)
But it definitely looks like a ridiculously cheap knockoff from a quality perspective. I'd be damn willing to pay a good $300-$400 for the case if it were sold on it's own. And that's not terribly unreasonable for the pricing of some ATX cases these days.
Heck, there are PC cases now that cost a good $600+ on their own. Like look at this beast: https://www.newegg.com/black-deepcool-gamer-storm-e-atx-mid-tower-chassis/p/N82E16811853057
It's entirely possible that a dust filter fine enough to make a significant difference was actually causing noise or heat issues due to impeded airflow. And given the subject matter of this article they may very well have scrapped it in favor of a less restricted intake and a more "pleasing" noise.
yes, I know I was pointing out what should generally be obvious
Unfortunately, been here long enough to know that what we believe should be obvious, gets repeated over and over again by those who actually take the words on face value without questioning the motive.
sometimes, we need to point out the obvious
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Could be. Can't judge cause they don't have one available.
a dust filter is an absolutely nice to have. But not a requirement if you maintain your workspace and clean out your computer regularly enough.
my current build doesn't have one. it has not posed a problem because once every few months you open it. take a can of air and clean it. 5 minute job at most. And judging by how ridiculous easy it is to get inside the new case, with how much space is inside it. Cleaning it should be routine and very easy.
Well, but the case for the Intel was the same as the G5. So design-wise, it is the precedent.