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My employer uses Mosyle(managing 9000+ devices), I heard they had jamf in the past and didn't like it.

We have ipad's, macbook's and apple tv's we manage.
 
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There will be a decline in corporate customers in the next 5 years due to Apple silicon, without good VM solutions for Windows applications. Everyone knows that in the corporate world we have programs that only work on Windows. And all of us "corporate customers demanding Macs" will have no choice but to go to a Windows machine when upgrading in order to effectively do our jobs when there is no intel alternative.

I'm dreading it.... at least I got a new top of the line 16" MacBook Pro in 2020 that should last me a good 4-5 years.

Incorrect, the big ones run Windows on Cloud desktops, not local VM. Second, Parallels Windows works on M1 in technical preview. Lastly, corporates have always been moving to OS agnostic development practices like Electron. That's why Teams, Slack, and the like are the same regardless of platform you use.
 
One system that manages 20M+ devices? What could possibly go wrong.
Seems primed for a hack.
 
Not really "one" system. We use On Prem Jamf since 2010 and have no interest in switching away.
No everything can be done with every system, but Jamf is flexible enough to give us the ability to add any extra functionality ourself.
 
One system that manages 20M+ devices? What could possibly go wrong.
Seems primed for a hack.
It is not just "one system". Jamf is a product that can be deployed either on your own server or cloud-based. Cloud based solutions are multiple independent instances. There is no single place to hack.
 
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I would never bring in my own device if they install anything on it. And wouldn't take with me any company device which has location tracking.
That is perfectly legit.
Same token, if you owned a car rental company, you probably would not install LoJack. Another car rental company owner would. This is what makes the world go round, and choices for everyone.
 
Off topic comment reply here, but I find this interesting. I agree with the high end MacBook Pro long term statement. Same for iMac, Mac Pros, etc that are high end enough, tons of power still, albeit at a precarious per watt performance. I’m extremely satisfied with a high end iMac 27" and it’s actually plenty quiet. But can’t imagine how amazing the ARM ones will be though.

Do you think though that there might be a slight possibility of these windows-only enterprises, apps, etc (or at least a subset of them), getting some sort of motivation and porting their stuff to make it work on M1 Macs?
Some of them might be impossible, granted. I’m not too familiar in general of what’s Windows only out there but for me personally the only reason I had Bootcamp was because of 3dsmax... now I access it via Parallels Desktop if it is for light enough 3D files. But heck, I’m forcing myself to open Blender whenever I can now.
I think that could happen. But I feel like the motivation really isn't there. Especially for programs that have been around since the early 90's and organizations still depend on them. There are even a lot of "tech companies" that rely on old software.
 
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Can Jamf be erased/deleted by a user?
Depends on how the computer was enrolled. If it was enrolled via Automatic Enrollment, then likely NO. If it was enrolled via User Enrollment, then yes.

But, that would like be a violation of your companies computer polices.
 
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Depends on how the computer was enrolled. If it was enrolled via Automatic Enrollment, then likely NO. If it was enrolled via User Enrollment, then yes.

But, that would like be a violation of your companies computer polices.
I don't know how to answer your question other than that I am pretty sure Apple installed it as it never touched my company's hands. It was shipped from Apple and I received it with the package never opened.

Anyway, I had a issue a couple weeks later and took it to the Apple Store. The guy there erased the hard drive (not Erase All Content and Settings).
 
I don't know how to answer your question other than that I am pretty sure Apple installed it as it never touched my company's hands. It was shipped from Apple and I received it with the package never opened.

Anyway, I had a issue a couple weeks later and took it to the Apple Store. The guy there erased the hard drive (not Erase All Content and Settings).

It doesn't have to touch your company's hands to be enrolled into Jamf. If it was purchased by your company from Apple, it will automatically enroll into their Jamf instance. Regardless, us sysadmins don't appreciate people trying to get around the safeguards we put in place. They're there for a reason :)
 
It doesn't have to touch your company's hands to be enrolled into Jamf. If it was purchased by your company from Apple, it will automatically enroll into their Jamf instance. Regardless, us sysadmins don't appreciate people trying to get around the safeguards we put in place. They're there for a reason :)
Totally understand and not trying to do anything malicious. Just concerned/wanting to make sure I d’t mess anything up.
 
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Totally understand and not trying to do anything malicious. Just concerned/wanting to make sure I d’t mess anything up.
Nope, you should be safe. No way around Apple Business Manager. It is set before the device ships. We had a couple of devices "mis-shipped". Sent letters to the "owners" address with information on how to easily return them to us. Got them back with no fuss. One of them said they purchased at a yard sale, during a road trip. Never opened.
 
Nope, you should be safe. No way around Apple Business Manager. It is set before the device ships.
Great, that is a big relief. I believe Apple sets it all up for us as my computer never touched our IT Deparment's hands. So I should have Apple Business Manager then it sounds.
 
Great, that is a big relief. I believe Apple sets it all up for us as my computer never touched our IT Deparment's hands. So I should have Apple Business Manager then it sounds.
Not quite. The way Apple Business Manager works is this.

Apple or reseller sells your organization a computer and uploads the serial numbers to Apple Business Manager.

When a user receives the computer and first turns it on, the computer checks in wiht Apple Business Manager to see if the serial number is registered. If the computer is registered, Apple then sends infomration back to the computer with URL to the organization's MDM server (Jamf, Mosyle, Kandji, etc.) The computer THEN checks in with the MDM server to start enrollment.

All the configuration is handled by the MDM server. All Apple does is provide the enrollment URL to the computer when it is first powered on.
 
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Not quite. The way Apple Business Manager works is this.

Apple or reseller sells your organization a computer and uploads the serial numbers to Apple Business Manager.

When a user receives the computer and first turns it on, the computer checks in wiht Apple Business Manager to see if the serial number is registered. If the computer is registered, Apple then sends infomration back to the computer with URL to the organization's MDM server (Jamf, Mosyle, Kandji, etc.) The computer THEN checks in with the MDM server to start enrollment.

All the configuration is handled by the MDM server. All Apple does is provide the enrollment URL to the computer when it is first powered on.
I think I understand.

So when I first started my computer (and again after erasing the hard drive), a Remote Management screen popped up letting me know that my company would remotely configure the computer. Then it had me enter my company user credentials to log in.

Sound about right?
 
I think I understand.

So when I first started my computer (and again after erasing the hard drive), a Remote Management screen popped up letting me know that my company would remotely configure the computer. Then it had me enter my company user credentials to log in.

Sound about right?

Yep! That's the one.
 
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