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Oh, now you are going off...

Apple has published reports since 2007 where they are actively looking for underage employees. Fact is that 15 year olds actually like making money and apply for jobs, and sometimes they are not caught immediately. What happens is that Apple finds out, puts it into their report, and makes the company in question pay for these kids to go back to school. Usually the numbers are so small that we can assume this happened by accident. Companies don't hire one or two 15 year olds intentionally. It doesn't save money and only creates trouble. But twice so far Apple found companies that hired so many underage employees that it looked intentional. Apple cancelled contracts with those companies.

Samsung on the other hand _claims_ they are making checks, but somehow they never, ever find someone who is underage. Here's the problem: We _know_ that's a lie. Apple is checking close to 200 suppliers, and there are always a few kids that get through the checks at various companies (plus sometimes a supplier who intentionally hires underage children). It's impossible that this doesn't happen with Samsung suppliers. Which means that Samsung isn't actually looking, or actively looking in the wrong direction, or they know what's going and are lying.

And right now a new report on the register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/10/samsung_new_child_labor_claims/

Oh my my. How youve forgotten the mass suicide problems that plagued the Foxconn factories.

Why are you talking about this irrelevant stuff now? Like i said, go move those goal posts. What does this have to do with going green.

You want to move your posts and now talk about all the companies that Apple sued? Or should we talk about Samsung and Apples lawsuits. Something completely unrelated. New topic to talk about now?

The original discussion was about going green and youve ignored every single link i posted and started talking about corrupt CEOs. What does that have to do with being environmentally conscious and being green.? ADD much?

What new offtopic topic would you like to discuss now?
 
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This isn't necessarily directed at you, but I like how global warming has been repositioned as a belief. It's science, it's either a fact or it isn't.

Indeed, AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) is either true or not, but when our scientific abilities aren't infinite, there's uncertainty in our knowledge. You end up having to choose or "believe" a perspective and go with it. Fuzzy logic and all that.

Granted, progression of research is furthering certainty that AGW is true, and it makes sense to me, so I've decided to agree with/"believe in" it.
 
Oh my my. How youve forgotten the mass suicide problems that plagued the Foxconn factories.

Widely reported suicides. Not mass suicides.

The USA have a mass suicide problem. About 40,000 per year.
Foxconn has over a million employees. At the same rate as the USA, there would be far over 100 suicides per year. There were 21 in one year, a total of THREE in the last two years. Because Foxconn with support of Apple took action.

Not that there haven't been multiple suicides at Samsung factories, but somehow they don't make the news. This may have something to do with the fact that reporting bad news about Samsung in South Korea is bad for your employment prospects, as multiple journalists and even a Korean member of parliament have found.

The original discussion was about going green and youve ignored every single link i posted and started talking about corrupt CEOs. What does that have to do with being environmentally conscious and being green.? ADD much?

I followed one link and demonstrated that it was pure nonsense. Corrupt CEO is obviously closely related to not believing any Samsung press releases. The scumbags are still refusing to pay compensation to workers who got leukaemia. It took them years to admit that people working at Samsung factories got leukaemia, but they still refuse to do something about it.
 
Widely reported suicides. Not mass suicides.

The USA have a mass suicide problem. About 40,000 per year.
Foxconn has over a million employees. At the same rate as the USA, there would be far over 100 suicides per year. There were 21 in one year, a total of THREE in the last two years. Because Foxconn with support of Apple took action.

Not that there haven't been multiple suicides at Samsung factories, but somehow they don't make the news. This may have something to do with the fact that reporting bad news about Samsung in South Korea is bad for your employment prospects, as multiple journalists and even a Korean member of parliament have found.



I followed one link and demonstrated that it was pure nonsense. Corrupt CEO is obviously closely related to not believing any Samsung press releases. The scumbags are still refusing to pay compensation to workers who got leukaemia. It took them years to admit that people working at Samsung factories got leukaemia, but they still refuse to do something about it.

Your arguments and your statements are a gut reaction to your hatred of Samsung. No matter what anyone posts, your gut reaction will tell you to hate Samsung.

No one said Samsung is flawless. I agree that what some of their executives do is downright dirty and is disgusting.

But you cannot deny their environmental efforts and consciousness. Instead of ignoring those links i put up, try reading them. Youre gonna sit there and tell me their solar powered classrooms in Africa means nothing?

I know its the norm to hate Samsung here but you have to give credit where its due.
 
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