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Yes, they often do that. I guess that's how they sell more expensive computers to pros, even though the majority of them don't require the additional horsepower. Personally, I handle music projects with hundreds of tracks on an iMac M1 without any problems. The only benefit "Pro" Macs could give me is additional ports, but with external hubs, everything works perfectly! And I have to say I prefer the colorful iMac over the serious silver, grey, and black tones of "Pro" Macs.
Ah okay that makes sense!

And that’s awesome you use the M1 iMac, they’re definitely powerful despite being first gen. I use mine with my guitar and Logic to get amps and the like and it’s nice and smooth, although I’m far from even being a hobby recorder lol

Which color did you get?
 
My take on the launch.

Hi I'm Tim and my bonus is at risk if you don't buy something innovative from us. We are very, very innovative. I can't stress that enough. Constantly innovating.

For the love of God, would you people on Intel Macs please upgrade.

We've improved the M3 Pro chip, but not as much as the M3 Max chip. Why? Have you seen our prices on M3 Max.

The new MacBook has a long list of great features, identical to everything in a M1 or M2, but we will go through them anyway, just to sound like something has changed. That's why we decided to launch it in black. Black is a colour never used before in a laptop computer and we are excited to give you this option. To help make the decision easier for you we have coated the new black Mac in a special nano technology that will hide fingerprints right up to the point your credit card clears and you get it home. So even if you own a perfectly fine M1 or M2, now you will be missing out on a colour choice and something compelling to use your Apple polishing cloth on. How's that for innovation.

The new M3 chip opens a world of new possibilities of what you can do with it - like all these things you will never do with it.

You can also play games on the M3 with our new GPU performance, just like on your gaming PC from five years ago and what's more you can use your new Mac to play one of four games. We've never played games at Apple, because we are all older driven executives who have spent a lifetime focussed on climbing the career ladder but I'm sure its good if you are into that kind of thing. Frankly, my biggest preoccupation this past three months has been losing weight so I can fit in these ridiculous clothes they picked out for me. I now list that as my hobby.

Hi I'm another presenter and I will say it again. Will you Intel people please buy a Mac. I mean we've got a chart here that says 4x. What else do we have to do for crying out loud. Just buy a new Mac.

For those of you on Intel iMac's I am going to definitely not mention the screen size of the new M3 iMac, while mentioning how pretty everything looks on it and how expansive the desktop is, without again, mentioning the actual screen size. Look! It comes in pretty colours!

Well that's another show done. Now excuse me while I innovate some spin around our last quarter results, because at Apple we never stop innovating. It's what we do and will always do, as long as we want executive bonuses and a house extension. So just go and buy something and innovate.

If Apple Ads were honest...
 
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So you think come next year the Intel Mac Pro which would have still been on sale by Apple 16 months previous, and cost a minimum of 7K, won’t get a supported OS update. OK….
It would not be the first time, and certainly will not be the last. I had an office full of MacPros (first generations), and after the second rev, Apple barely supported anything with the first revisions. Even the known and documented bugs that got firmware fixes in other revs remained unpatched.

The more money spent on an Apple system (or device for that matter), the less Apple cares about it. Do the research.

Those that bought the final version of the MacPro (intel) really got screwed. Another architecture nearly completely obliterated. Those that bought the first Watches got screwed. First iPods.
 
It would not be the first time, and certainly will not be the last. I had an office full of MacPros (first generations), and after the second rev, Apple barely supported anything with the first revisions. Even the known and documented bugs that got firmware fixes in other revs remained unpatched.

The more money spent on an Apple system (or device for that matter), the less Apple cares about it. Do the research.

Those that bought the final version of the MacPro (intel) really got screwed. Another architecture nearly completely obliterated. Those that bought the first Watches got screwed. First iPods.
The first watch got watchOS 4…..
 
Note: the M3 comparisons are against an Intel laptop chip which isn't close to the Phoenix Zen 4. Looking forward to Zen 5 at CES 2024.
Could be due to the fact that at least half the Mac user base is still using Macs with Intel machines. Apple's focus in on getting these users to upgrade. And maybe some M1-series users.
 
nobody serious about the pro model is getting the base model.

Why? I've loved buying base models and using them as workhorses. Imacs and Airs are beating out pros doing pro tasks these days. I rarely run into limitations but it's 2023....
8gb was base in 2014.

This is unacceptable.

They've created a buyers dilemma, and essentially Apple computers have a $200 hidden fee.
 
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you can either think apple drastically dropped the price of the macbook pro or think the base doesn’t have 8gb. either way macbook pros starting at 1999 has been a thing for years now. i will always consider the 1999 the real base “pro” model
 
you can either think apple drastically dropped the price of the macbook pro or think the base doesn’t have 8gb. either way macbook pros starting at 1999 has been a thing for years now. i will always consider the 1999 the real base “pro” model

Those are some personal mental gymnastics.

It's a $35 chip retail, they're charging $180 for it. Saying it's a required upgrade and we should ignore the base model is silly, it's the base model and spec across the board that doesn't meet 2023 standards. It needs 16gb base. I've never paid $1999 for a Mac book pro. I'm not starting now.
 
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Ah okay that makes sense!

And that’s awesome you use the M1 iMac, they’re definitely powerful despite being first gen. I use mine with my guitar and Logic to get amps and the like and it’s nice and smooth, although I’m far from even being a hobby recorder lol

Which color did you get?
Logic is awesome! I got the yellow color, 1 TB and 16 GB of RAM. What about you?
 
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Logic is awesome! I got the yellow color, 1 TB and 16 GB of RAM. What about you?
Yellow as well! 16gb ram but I got cheap with storage and stuck with 256 and keep an external ssd hooked up for photos and the occasional game.
 
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