Apple Event on Thursday May 18th, 2006?

[DJS1234]

Does a 20% performance improvement to stay even with Windows 64-bit apps count as "good justification"?

Which Windows 64bit apps would these be? (Not for the reason i'm doubting you, just for the reason i've never seen a Windows package that is 64
bit only except Windows XP 64bit edition which does not make 32bit apps run any faster at all)

 

[runninmac]

Yeah it's a fake; Apple never advertises the same item twice on the homepage.

They have with the iPod mini, but agreed it is a fake

 

[mac-x]

so how sure are we on the speculated dates again?
Maybe a silent release on tuesday
The shop opening is a fact for friday, but what about that press event thursday? i havent seen any invite yet, or heard other sites about it.
So is this even real at all?
If theres nothing this week, or next tuesday.... im buying MBP

 

[ImNoSuperMan]

then soon there won't be enough x86 MacIntels for 3rd party software vendors to even care about makeing fat binaries for x86.

Last time I checked x64 was backward compatible with x86. But not the vice versa. So do you really think ,in 2 years time, we`ll be having x64 only versions of regular apps such as Office, Browsers, media players etc. Will it be monetarily viable for these companies to ignore that much of User Base. ie all the people who bought a Mac in 2006. And really, tell me what difference would Merom make when using such apps? Will it really make a page in word open .003 seconds faster? Coz rite now it takes less than a second.

No... Dont count PS/FCP etc. No one is buying a MB for that purpose at all. If someone really wants to have such high computing then they`ll go for a MBP, that too if they neeed a portable solution only. And would you really do such stuff on a 13 incher?

This is the best option IMO for most of us who really need to use pro apps- A Merom iMac plus a 13" Yonah MB

Cost of a Merom iMac+Yonah MB = Bout 20% extra than a single MBP as powerful as the iMac.

Benefits:- A powerful comp at home/work when you need it. A small cute Lappy for your portable needs.

Disadvantages. You wont be able to edit that 100 MB Photo on your 13" MB . Neither will you be able to edit those over 60 GB uncompressed videos and compress them to fit on a single DVD . OMG. Thats way too much. Hey everyone. Please dont by a Yonah MB at all. It wont be able to do all this stuff. Please wait for a Merom. Yes it`ll make one hell of a difference. Paired with GMA or x1400 with 64vram(at very best), your MB will definitely ROCKKK.

 

[Arne]

I still remember when I baught the Notebook I'm typing this message on, nearly two years ago. It's a Fujitsu Siemens and it has a Pentium M with 1.7ghz. Everyone told me I should wait for AMD64-Notebooks to come out because they were going to be more compatible in future and WAY faster. I remember those people purchasing Pentium M-Notebooks a year later because they just saw, that there were no transition comeing anytime soon and that there was no need to spend a lot more money on an AMD64. Ok, I know, Apple might handle things different, but they don't have any reason to drop support on 32bit-Machines in future, just because they must have noticed that 64bit is not going to provide any advantage for consumers at the moment. Otherwise they would have never released Yonah-based Macs.

I agree, there might come a time when there are no more CD-Macs available but this time is not coming very soon. They can announce C2D as a por-feature and leave the consumer-models using CD. That way, they can let C2D appear as a big feature for the consumer-line as soon as there is something better for the pros to use. Don't forget that they will want to give you regular small updates instead of making big steps, because that way they would run out of possibilities if they run into problems again as they did with the G5.

(excuse my english, I'm not a native speaker..)

 

[DimFlicker]

This procesor discussion is out of control.
It can't make that much of a difference. If it did Apple would wait. People will be pissed if they spend there money on something they've been waiting on and then Apple just upgrades the product 3 months later at the same price. No way, its bad business.

and I love this "can't" talk. If I hadn't tried to do all the things everyone said my 3yr old Pentium 4 couldn't handle.. well, I mean you have to talk nice to her, but she does it.

Not to be mean, but I wish you guys would shup up. Your discouraging people you hardly know from buying a product they have been waiting for for a long time... and chances are, they won't ever know the difference in the processor.

 

[peharri]

There are at least two reasons not to click the "x86" option - QA and support.

That goes equally for clicking the ai64 and PPC options. But for the next three years, you know they're going to click the latter. The fact is that as long as the programs are written in a high level language, the behaviour of ia32 and ia64 binaries should be identical.

Indeed, given the ia32 version will run on the ia64, you can bet that anyone who's bothered about QA and support issues is going to lose the supposed 20% speed-up, not the (at worst, assuming Apple just goes 64 bit right away, tomorrow, which they will not as putting low cost 32 bit CPUs in low and medium end machines will help with value differentiation) 10-20% of Intel Mac users.

 

[ImNoSuperMan]

One more thing I`d like to say. Ah... I mean Post.

I couldn`t agree more with "Multi and Aiden" inc if this thread was bout MBP or iMac instead. Really. It seems very advisable to stop buying Yonah MBP right now. Waiting another 3 months will definitely be beneficial. Also considering the problems with current MBPs there shouldn`t be any reason to buy a MBP now at all. And also since the design of current MBP is unchanged for at least 3-4 years now,you can also up your hopes for that too this Aug.

 

[mac-x]

This procesor discussion is out of control.

Agreed, this is about the ?speculated? thursday event.
And correct me if im wrong but most people here really are 'geeks' with apple, and are expecting a 13inch cheaper but same specs as the MBP.
So basicly a 13,3 MBP.
Facts:
- normal users for the upcoming macbooks,
- doesnt know apple comes out with an update on the ibook
- doesnt check rumorsites 24/7 since last year
- normal users dont care about 32/64bit.
- users will do research as in looking at websites/ask in store, and buy what they need, when they need it

So all those pro users in here please stop speculating about not even buying an unreleased product because something better will come someday...
Your scaring away the normal users that did reach rumorsites.

 

[DJS1234]

Last time I checked x64 was backward compatible with x86. But not the vice versa. So do you really think ,in 2 years time, we`ll be having x64 only versions of regular apps such as Office, Browsers, media players etc. Will it be monetarily viable for these companies to ignore that much of User Base. ie all the people who bought a Mac in 2006. And really, tell me what difference would Merom make when using such apps? Will it really make a page in word open .003 seconds faster? Coz rite now it takes less than a second.

No... Dont count PS/FCP etc. No one is buying a MB for that purpose at all. If someone really wants to have such high computing then they`ll go for a MBP, that too if they neeed a portable solution only. And would you really do such stuff on a 13 incher?

This is the best option IMO for most of us who really need to use pro apps- A Merom iMac plus a 13" Yonah MB

Cost of a Merom iMac+Yonah MB = Bout 20% extra than a single MBP as powerful as the iMac.

Benefits:- A powerful comp at home/work when you need it. A small cute Lappy for your portable needs.

Disadvantages. You wont be able to edit that 100 MB Photo on your 13" MB . Neither will you be able to edit those over 60 GB uncompressed videos and compress them to fit on a single DVD . OMG. Thats way too much. Hey everyone. Please dont by a Yonah MB at all. It wont be able to do all this stuff. Please wait for a Merom. Yes it`ll make one hell of a difference. Paired with GMA or x1400 with 64vram(at very best), your MB will definitely ROCKKK.

I couldn't agree more (The sums on how much an iMac and Macbook would be compared to a MBP are quite scary!!! The Pro's sure do command a premium!)

 

[nomad01]

If theres nothing this week, or next tuesday.... im buying MBP

I'm already set on geting one... by the end of the week hopefully.

My 12" 1.33 G4 Powerbook did everything I need to do better than my PC does. A MacBook Pro would probably be overkill for my needs. I don't play games. I use Quark and Photoshop but considering the newspaper group I work for has pre-blue and white G3 PowerMacs, I'm pretty sure I'll cope with them running under Rosetta.

Any video editing I do is using Apple apps and I can only hope Apple will continue to support the current architecture.

Plus I'm getting 15 percent discount so it's a no brainer for me.

 

[DJS1234]

I'm already set on geting one... by the end of the week hopefully.

My 12" 1.33 G4 Powerbook did everything I need to do better than my PC does. A MacBook Pro would probably be overkill for my needs. I don't play games. I use Quark and Photoshop but considering the newspaper group I work for has pre-blue and white G3 PowerMacs, I'm pretty sure I'll cope with them running under Rosetta.

Any video editing I do is using Apple apps and I can only hope Apple will continue to support the current architecture.

Plus I'm getting 15 percent discount so it's a no brainer for me.

I hope you are very happy with your new MBP!

Fingers crossed all the bugs are ironed out now, i haven't read as many new complaints about the thermal paste issue in a while, post up when you get your new arrival and let us know how it goes! (Incidentally are you going for 15" or 17")

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

This procesor discussion is out of control.

Amen to that.

When the next MacBook rumor comes out later today, ya'll just keep your little 64-bit fantasies confined to this thread. Please, and thank you.

 

[BCNMacLovr]

"The patience is bitter, but their fruits are candies."

 

[netdog]

Alright, despite everything I wrote (and still believe), I admit it...I have no patience. If I like the new MacBook, I will place my order immediately upon it being made available assuming that they aren't in stock at the Regent Street Apple Store. Foolish, but given that it is made by Asus, I am expecting 0 revision-A problems.

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

Multimedia, it's always hard to understand why you act as Aiden's proxy, but this is irrelevant here anyway.

Actually, MultiMedia and I are the same person - we just have Multiple IP.address Disorder.

Aiden, you're not pulling any wool over my eyes -- it's pretty obvious when you look at it. Aiden is Multi's cat, and any bloke who would get processor advice from their cat has got to be a bit looney, no? Case in point:

Will the iBookIntel jump to Merom right away? IMO if Apple are smart it will.

I second that advice. Bravo for patience and self-control in the face of obsolete "new" products since January. So many reasons to wait, so many willing not to . . . ... The real world is going to be all 64-bit hardware within 3 months from now.

I do believe that by September-October MacBooks will have Merom Core 2 Duo inside.

A man and his cat have their opinion (or is it a cat and his man?), but I'll stick by my prediction that Yonah's will remain in MacBooks into 2007.

 

[pjkelnhofer]

Days off

What a strange Monday... we should be flooded with "New Products Tomorrow" threads, but the Thursday event has thrown a wrench into all that.

While the 32-bit vs. 64-bit discussion has been fun, maybe I will take a couple of days off and see what rumors Wednesday brings...

 

[netdog]

While the 32-bit vs. 64-bit discussion has been fun, maybe I will take a couple of days off and see what rumors Wednesday brings...

Wednesday's Rumor: MacBook released yesterday

 

[Atlasland]

I refuse to believe any more rumours until they actually come true.

This is all getting ridiculous.

 

[pjkelnhofer]

Wednesday's Rumor: MacBook released yesterday

D'oh! In that case, I would just have to catch up on all the threads about why this was both greatest and worse release ever from Apple!

I refuse to believe any more rumours until they actually come true.

This is all getting ridiculous.

In the defense of the rumor mongers, isn't the fact that a lot of them are not true what makes them rumors?

I am off to a bad start on taking days off...

 

[Nikonshooter]

What do you guys think that the odds are that a 13inch MBpro will be released this week ?

My guess:
13 inch Macbkook pro : 80%
13 inch Macbook : 40%

 

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

They have with the iPod mini, but agreed it is a fake

I didn't know that; sorry

(Thanks for the info)

 

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

What do you guys think that the odds are that a 13inch MBpro will be released this week ?

My guess:
13 inch Macbkook pro : 80%
13 inch Macbook : 40%

So there's like a 20% chance that they'll come out with two seperate products...?

I predict a 98% chance of a 12-inch, 13-inch, or 14-inch Macbook before next July and a 2% chance of a 13-inch MacBook Pro before Friday.

EDIT: could we add this post to the front page, I believe it is terrificly credible.

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

I refuse to believe any more rumours until they actually come true.

Then you don't want www.macrumors.com, you want www.apple.com.

My gosh, I've checked the rumor sites 7x today already, and it is not even noon! New MacBook rumors, PLEASE!

 

[Nikonshooter]

I based my predictions on these thoughts :
- the 12inch PB was one of the big sellers for Apple and should be replaced.
- there are too much activities this week just to open a store in NYC
- if the macbook is relesed the 12inch PB would be slower than the consumer model.

What are they going to tell the press on thursday : "Hey we will open the new store tomorrow." Seems stupid to me.
The press would be present friday at the opening anyway.