Apple Event: Six New Products to Expect on September 9

[CalMin]

Yep, I think that with many things, not just Apple products, the questions people are more likely to ask than before are:

Does what I have do everything I want it to do? Will it keep doing this tomorrow / next week / next month?

If the answer is yes, and people are feeling the pinch of rising costs, then why upgrade?

The thing I am most concerned about here is planned obsolescence. My M1Pro still runs like a champ at 5-years old it still feels new. But - Apple (seemingly arbitrarily) has dropped support for some features on devices which have CPUs under the M3 generation. To my mind there is a HUGE difference between a base M1 with 8GB and a 64GB M1 Max, but both are equally cutoff from features under MacOS 27.

I hate being a conspiracist because there may well be valid technical reasons for this cut-off, such as CPU architecture or NPU enhancements, but I'd prefer Apple state this plainly or even offer the feature at reduced performance to those with older hardware, and then let us decide if we want to use it or not. Because they simply draw a cut line and say 'nope', I can't help but feel that this cutoff is to push upgrades.

They knocked it out of the park with M1 generations. That my 5-year old M1Pro still crushes my everyday MS Office based workload, edits 4K Multicam and runs the latest OS like butter is remarkable. New hardware would be one reason to upgrade, but Apple doesn't do that as often as they used to. So without new hardware, perhaps they are resorting to software differentiation...

 

[slippery-pete]

Fair assessment.

it’s that Tim isn’t a technology or product person and his strategy was to play it safe.

Playing it safe is boring.

Tim was boring.

Counting beans is boring.

Why do people always defend Tim by pointing to stock price or how valuable the company is…at the expense of how boring and late to the market they are on every product? You’re all big apple investors? You’ve accepted his Buick-style leadership, you know the products are stale and you say, “…but look at the stock price😏”, like that makes up for how lame Apple is under Tim?

🙄

Take some chances ($3500 AVP is not taking a chance. A foldable phone is not taking a chance. An iPad mini stuck to a speaker is not taking a chance. Siri is boring.).

Apple has grown too big and too profitable to be interesting or exciting. That’s all.

I’m glad I got to live through the golden age. It was magical. It was exciting. Apple events were dramatic.

Hate to break it to you, but as the CEO of a publicly traded company, he will take calculated risks. Again, just because he didn't release the products YOU wanted when YOU wanted and with the features YOU wanted, doesn't make him boring. Apple has billions of customer, repeat customers, worldwide...he has to be doing something right, no?

The "Buick-style leadership"..."boring"...."lame" are your opinion and far from factual. You really lose any credibility when you refuses to acknowledge anything he accomplished/did during his tenure at Apple.

Reality is, there is nothing Apple/Tim could have released that you would have been happy about. We get it, you aren't happy that Apple has gotten big and profitable. The good news is, there are plenty of competitors out there that you can buy products from and never look back.

 

[Happy_John]

I’m glad I got to live through the golden age. It was magical. It was exciting. Apple events were dramatic.

This I find interesting, and it depends very much on the person's age. When do you think "the golden age" of Apple was?

For me, there was more than one. Apple has been up and down, for various reasons, throughout its 50 years.

 

[Gasu E.]

I expect price increases. I also expect that I am being priced out of Apple faster than I expected. I also expect to wait longer and longer to upgrade.

Everyone is going to raise their prices. Memory.

 

[Gasu E.]

Fair assessment.

it’s that Tim isn’t a technology or product person and his strategy was to play it safe.

Playing it safe is boring.

Tim was boring.

Counting beans is boring.

Why do people always defend Tim by pointing to stock price or how valuable the company is…at the expense of how boring and late to the market they are on every product? You’re all big apple investors? You’ve accepted his Buick-style leadership, you know the products are stale and you say, “…but look at the stock price😏”, like that makes up for how lame Apple is under Tim?

🙄

Take some chances ($3500 AVP is not taking a chance. A foldable phone is not taking a chance. An iPad mini stuck to a speaker is not taking a chance. Siri is boring.).

Apple has grown too big and too profitable to be interesting or exciting. That’s all.

I’m glad I got to live through the golden age. It was magical. It was exciting. Apple events were dramatic.

You seem to be making the assumption that Tim directed Apple product strategy. CEOs rarely do, and I'm 100% confident that Tim doesn't have the ego to believe he was the one to do it. He's not Musk, and he's not Trump. He's rational.

 

[rchaser]

Hate to break it to you, but as the CEO of a publicly traded company, he will take calculated risks. Again, just because he didn't release the products YOU wanted when YOU wanted and with the features YOU wanted, doesn't make him boring. Apple has billions of customer, repeat customers, worldwide...he has to be doing something right, no?

The "Buick-style leadership"..."boring"...."lame" are your opinion and far from factual. You really lose any credibility when you refuses to acknowledge anything he accomplished/did during his tenure at Apple.

Reality is, there is nothing Apple/Tim could have released that you would have been happy about. We get it, you aren't happy that Apple has gotten big and profitable. The good news is, there are plenty of competitors out there that you can buy products from and never look back.

I’ve lost credibility on an internet board of mega fans?

How will I recover. How can I go on.

Sigh.

I give Tim LOTS of credit. I’m certain - we can all be certain - MANY beans were counted under his watch and leadership.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

“One more thing” seems trite when every “new” thing you release has been to market by other manufacturers for 5-10 years.

So, now that Tim “What’s a Magic Mouse 🤔” Bean-counter is gone, they’ll play it less safe.

They will continue to play it safe. It’s not that Tim was a bean-counter and Ternus wasn’t, they’re both people with the right set of skills and in the right place to be CEO. And that includes, unfortunately for some, a propensity to play it safe in order to ensure the employment of themselves AND of the hundreds of thousands who’s livelihoods are held in their hands.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

TIL Ternus is “exiting” to some. 🙂

 

[slippery-pete]

I’ve lost credibility on an internet board of mega fans?

How will I recover. How can I go on.

Sigh.

I give Tim LOTS of credit. I’m certain - we can all be certain - MANY beans were counted under his watch and leadership.

Funny, you hate Tim/Apple and yet you are here on an Apple Fan Board commenting...Sigh.

I wonder if you laugh while making sophomoric jokes/poke at Tim. Have a good one buddy!

 

[slippery-pete]

They will continue to play it safe. It’s not that Tim was a bean-counter and Ternus wasn’t, they’re both people with the right set of skills and in the right place to be CEO. And that includes, unfortunately for some, a propensity to play it safe in order to ensure the employment of themselves AND of the hundreds of thousands who’s livelihoods are held in their hands.

Please don't bring logic into the conversation. They is judging Apple/Tim on them not making the products they want when they want them and with the features they want. An incredible narrow, narrow, narrow point of view on a 4+ trillion dollar company.

How many of Apple's competitors would change places with them in a second if they could...

 

[PlayUltimate]

At this point, I think there’s been more events without “one more thing” than with.

With the required lead time for production and the rumor mill, I doubt we will ever see a “one more thing” again; just too hard to pull off.

 

[PlayUltimate]

They will continue to play it safe. It’s not that Tim was a bean-counter and Ternus wasn’t, they’re both people with the right set of skills and in the right place to be CEO. And that includes, unfortunately for some, a propensity to play it safe in order to ensure the employment of themselves AND of the hundreds of thousands who’s livelihoods are held in their hands.

I disagree with the assumption that Apple was trying to play it safe. THe only thing that was ever see are the things that were deemed to make sense for Apple. Further, the production lead times are so long that by the time that a product is officially announced, these boards have been discussing the product for over a year. And thus there is no shock, awe, or surprise. Each of us goes into these events mostly knowing what will be announced including the specifications for each product. And then we are bored, shrug our shoulders and sigh, “ho hum.”
If you want to be surprised, take a multi-year hiatus from these sites. (multi year is required because there is already thoughts about products 2 years in the future.).

 

[LlamaLarry]

Yeesh, I am in for an 18PM (upgrading from my trusty 12PM finally), S12 AW for my wife (upgrading from S9), and if there is actually something compelling about it, an AppleTV mostly for FOMO as my current gen 4Ks are working perfectly.

My aching wallet.