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You ask me to share which files, yet don’t share specifically about yours
you didn't ask lol, but since you are now, sure, my workload at current is media production, lots of AV1 files, follow by unity engine, i normally don't need swaps but upon launching unity my mac start swapping around 16-20gb to ssd. on top of that i have about 40 chrome tabs open for work.
PDF’s couldn’t open while I had a few PowerPoints and simple Excel files open. Opened twice as much on the Mac, zero issue. I don’t remember file sizes, but none of the files above a few hundred MB.
thats definitely not the norm, i implore you to troubleshoot and see whats wrong, couple power points and excel files should not choke down even a bone stock pc.
Usually this is where people tell me my company’s managed Windows install is faulty… but that doesn’t really help me, and doesn’t answer the question.
these people sound about right, have you tried reinstalling with a fresh copy?
I’m well aware that there are tough workloads that my MBA is slow for. I’m pointing towards lots of people claiming that they work with files that “require” more RAM than on Intel. You still didn’t answer that
i can actually give you a personal example for this type of comparison. before upgrading to the m1, i had a 2015 mbp 13inch with 16gb of ram, and under the same workflow i was getting 12gb ram usage, under the m1 after porting everything over, i was immediately under yellow pressure from system monitor with 15gb ram usage. i'm not a system arictect by any means, but its suffice for me to conclude m1 absolutely uses more ram.
the files used less RAM on Windows, but how was it to work with?
works great, again it depends on how fast your ram is, i have ddr4 3600mhz 64gb on my gaming pc, not the fastest ram by any means, in fact the absolute top spec ram on pc side can reach 8000mhz, 2000mhz faster than what apple use for m2 max. i can say there are some tasks performing faster on mac and vice versa, but its honestly feel like splitting hair at that point.
A 64 GB computer doesn’t run any slower with 50 GB used than with 30 GB used, so for all we know it can show the opposite of what one may think, that it actually uses the RAM more efficiently (but I acknowledge I am a layman and this is just a theory)
right, i never claim any difference in speed, just showing mac and window have different ways of utilizing ram, with mac it will literally use as much ram as you can give it. would that mean a more fluid user experience? maybe. but again as i previously stated, it feels like splitting hair.
 
Do you have any evidence that is why they did not offer larger memory configurations? Why do you think this machine would be any harder to sell than the previous Intel based system with 1.5TB as an option? Apple did not produce a machine that they expected would only be filled with third party RAM.


How many machines are sold into this market? What software is used by this market? How much of it runs on macOS? Before they “effectively bowed out” of this market, in 2020 when the 2019 Mac Pro was brand new, how many Mac Pros were sold into this market.


All systems non-virtualized systems that use over 64GB are very niche. The question is simply is this a profitable niche.


I agree that it take effort to get people to port to macOS. What I have never understood, is that if the best system Apple can build based on Intel or AMD chips cannot really be meaningfully faster than a commodity machine from Dell, HP or Lenovo, why would anyone waste time porting to macOS?


These machines are substantially more power efficient (something that matter in a state with electricity costs as high as California’s), but are not competitive for every workload. On the other hand, we just benchmarked one of the leading MS Windows based Photogrammetry applications on a Threadripper system with a top of the line nVidia card against Apple’s Object Capture on an M1 Ultra Studio and found that the Mac took one third the time to produce better results. As soon as we have our M2 Ultra Mac Pro, I will rerun the benchmarks and post the results.

No one is being ”punished” for needing PCIe expansion slots, but they have become a very small niche of users and as such should expect to pay more. Just as users who need 192GB of RAM do. For most users (even at the high end), a Mac Studio is perfectly sufficient. For those (like us) we need internal expansion slots, paying more is not really a new phenomenon.
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It depends on the software you’re using, Final Cut doesn’t run on a PC…

I've said that before, unless you are stuck with Apple only software (Logic, Final Cut) and you need PCI express cards (no video cards) then a Mac Pro is not for you, there are zillions of better options priced better out there.
 
I've said that before, unless you are stuck with Apple only software (Logic, Final Cut) and you need PCI express cards (no video cards) then a Mac Pro is not for you, there are zillions of better options priced better out there.
Unless one needs PCIe cards or internal NVMe storage, a Mac Pro is not for you. However, the AMD Threadripper with 128GB and an RTX 4090 was 1/5th the speed of an M1 Ultra based Mac Studio with 128GB of RAM for photogrammetry task we are doing, while costing more to purchase and probably 3 times as much to run (thanks to the cost of the power). The M2 with 192GB should be even better at the task (as I mentioned, I will report my results once I have the machine to compare).

That is using the best Windows Photogrammetry software vs. the included Object Capture from Apple.
 
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I've said that before, unless you are stuck with Apple only software (Logic, Final Cut) and you need PCI express cards (no video cards) then a Mac Pro is not for you, there are zillions of better options priced better out there.
Have fun with your amazing PCs & I’ll have fun with my amazing Macs… 😉
 
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Unless one needs PCIe cards or internal NVMe storage, a Mac Pro is not for you. However, the AMD Threadripper with 128GB and an RTX 4090 was 1/5th the speed of an M1 Ultra based Mac Studio with 128GB of RAM for photogrammetry task we are doing, while costing more to purchase and probably 3 times as much to run (thanks to the cost of the power). The M2 with 192GB should be even better at the task (as I mentioned, I will report my results once I have the machine to compare).

That is using the best Windows Photogrammetry software vs. the included Object Capture from Apple.
Good for you and for people like you, but in most cases is cheaper and better to have a Desktop PC than a Mac Pro.
 
Good for you and for people like you, but in most cases is cheaper and better to have a Desktop PC than a Mac Pro.
I am not sure what you are comparing. Low priced MS Windows desktops to a high end, special purpose Mac Pro? All MS Windows desktops to the special purpose Mac Pro? High End MS Windows Workstations to the special purpose Mac Pro?

As has been stated repeatedly, if one does not need PCIe slots (like the vast majority of users), a Mac Studio or even a Mac mini with an M2 Pro, is probably the machine that would suit ones needs at very competitive prices. However, if one does need PCIe slots, and a Mac is appropriate for one’s workflow (anything requiring large memory GPUs, or that can take advantage of Apple Silicon’s Neural Engine), then the Mac Pro is a great choice.
 
I am not sure what you are comparing. Low priced MS Windows desktops to a high end, special purpose Mac Pro? All MS Windows desktops to the special purpose Mac Pro? High End MS Windows Workstations to the special purpose Mac Pro?

As has been stated repeatedly, if one does not need PCIe slots (like the vast majority of users), a Mac Studio or even a Mac mini with an M2 Pro, is probably the machine that would suit ones needs at very competitive prices. However, if one does need PCIe slots, and a Mac is appropriate for one’s workflow (anything requiring large memory GPUs, or that can take advantage of Apple Silicon’s Neural Engine), then the Mac Pro is a great choice.
I said that before, Mac Pro will be good just for those that need large Video Card Memory situations, for the rest of us a desktop computer will be a way better option.
 
I have neither amazing skin or hair (blad), so it’s not quite a metaphor that works for me… 😥
I thought (for the looks of your picture) that you had good skin, but if you say otherwise ...

Anyway, if you are happy with your Mac then enjoy it.
 
I thought (for the looks of your picture) that you had good skin, but if you say otherwise ...

Anyway, if you are happy with your Mac then enjoy it.
Thanks, I’m thrilled with my Macs & enjoy them immensely. Hopefully it’s the same for you & your PCs… 🫶🏻
 
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