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Good news! They can purchase a $1600 display!

or…any other display on the market.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

why do people feel this need to complain about Apple? Don’t buy the display. Who cares?? There are other options!
If you don’t buy the display how do you get sound?
 
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A gap in PRICE.

Most shops use MacBooks and iMacs and they do the job for most graphics work. The companies willing to spend huge cash on machines for 8k video, 3D VR and other top end work go for workstations YOU CAN UPGRADE.

This looks like another MacG4 Cube that you CAN'T UPGRADE.

What about this machine is remotely "modular"?
Difference was the cube was beautiful, this thing most certainly isn’t .
 
Looking at the stock photo the biggest design fail to me looks like the studio won’t fit on the monitor stand , giving even more desktop space available

Almost like they had two separate design teams that only met up right at the end … bit like the infamous PS3… ?
 
Difference was the cube was beautiful, this thing most certainly isn’t .
I do t think it’s too bad looking. Just like a mini, which is quite nice in the flesh. It’s a shame there wasn’t a new ‘radical’ design - but each time they try that with these type of desktop machines they have been bitten. This seems to offer function over design which is very un-Apple, whilst still being Apple like to look at, albeit a bit vanilla.
 
Home and business owners who have used out of the box 27" iMac for years. Some were looking forward to upgrading to an M1 or an M2 27" iMac this year and are extremely disappointed. Most don't need or can afford a $2K display $200 keyboard and $2K cube studio or a $5K Mac Pro or an overpriced iMac Pro.

Apple needs to take a real hard look at the marketplace. I suggest taking a survey existing iMac and mac mini owners and not listen to out-of-touch marketing geniuses!
Exactly!! As an iMac 27" owner, I am very disappointed. It was the best all in one desktop :(
 
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What do they mean when they say modular? It looks pretty singular to me, but I might be misunderstanding the definition...
Apple's definition of modular in this context is 'BYO KVM'

A lot of people in this thread comparing this new studio to the 27" iMac and complaining it doesn't represent good VFM. That's only true if you limit yourself to buying Apple peripherals like screens, keyboards and mice. There are a whole host of peripherals out there in the big wide world you can plug this thing in to which are at least as good or better than the ones provided by Apple, and cost less. That's where the Studio (and the Mini, for that matter) score.
 
If you don’t buy the display how do you get sound?
gonna blow your mind this but not only do some other monitors - not made by Apple - have speakers built in to them, you can also buy powered speakers. Sorry if I accidentally just tore up everything you thought you knew about the world lol
 
Good news! They can purchase a $1600 display!

or…any other display on the market.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

why do people feel this need to complain about Apple? Don’t buy the display. Who cares?? There are other options!
^^^ this. I'm confounded by the swathe of iMac owners complaining even the cheapest Mac Studio + Studio Display is double the price of their iMac. Just buy & use a display not made by Apple, you know, like you can't do with an iMac because you're stuck with the display that Apple gave you. It's as though they don't realise other options exist.

If you really need an iMac-quality screen (few do), buy an LG Ultrafine, which literally has the same panel. And guess what: you can KEEP this monitor when you eventually do need a more powerful computer, instead of having to ditch it like you would with an iMac.
 
Nah, USB-A should have died a long time ago, and I'm happy that Apple no longer feeds the industry's laziness and inertia.

I, too, have a bunch of USB-A peripherals left, so we're probably in the same boat, but:

  1. Ultimately Apple's design choice leads me to buying only USB-C devices, which puts more pressure on the industry to switch to USB-C, which is a good thing.
  2. Small USB-C-to-USB-A adaptors are cheap enough to use the devices I already have.
  3. I much prefer for my really expensive, once-in-a-decade-investment computer to have future-proof modern ports and to have to use cheap converters to use my outdated USB-A stuff instead, rather than having the outdated ports on my expensive computer and thereby make it less future-proof.

A fair point, as I see the USB-A dilemma as being similar to prior historical changes, such as Serial-to-USB and Firewire-USB transitions: the question basically comes down to is with a new PC system being introduced, how many legacy peripherals does one need to retire & replace "NOW" in order to maintain continuity of capabilities? For this, the USB-C vs. -A question doesn't look to me to be too painful: there are adaptors and they're not expensive.

But there is the question of abolishing all legacy ports because the "future-proof" latest stuff isn't necessarily the right choice for all system peripherals. For example, consider wired keyboards/mice (etc): these just don't need or benefit from TB4/USB-C bandwidth.

As such, while we can choose to lose a TB4 port just to run a USB-2 hub to get some USB-A ports to maintain this capability, that's really a huge waste of a TB4 bandwidth allocation, so isn't it smarter to just keep a few USB-A's baked into the base hardware so that the TB4 bandwidth allocation doesn't get wasted on a user-added old USB Hub? Particularly if in doing so, it means one more TB4 port available?

This is a practical aspect of these architecture design decisions - - to know what really needs what - - which are probably going to keep USB-A around for a lot longer than what many folks will opine that it "should", because of something that's "better" even if that improvement can't be used on that particular peripheral subclass.
 
No, if that were the case Mac mini would be advertised as "modular" a long time ago.

It's clear Apple redefined "modular" just now.
While not apparent, “modular” means that Apple or any third-party can design an external storage unit that connects to the Mac Studio similar to some options for the Mac Mini. Maybe there is another unrevealed benefit of the M1 Max and that is to attach external GPU an it’s announcement is being withheld for the introduction of the Mac Pro similar to the Max - Ultra situation.

There will be an updated Pro Display XDR that has similar specs to the 2021 MacBook Pro displays, Apple is not going to give up all the goods for cheap ?
 
Speak with your wallets folks and hit them where it counts. I'm a huge apple fan and I spend tons of money on apple devices every year. I'm fortunate to be able to afford a new Studio + Studio Display but I'm not about to spend a penny on this money grab for the display. This display was the worst thought out product I can remember with lack of adjustability/swivel, and price. They removed the computer guts and charge the same amount for just the panel....no matter how bad I want a new setup, I'm not giving apple my money for this garbage.

Had apple offered a display option without speakers and camera for $999, it would be a totally different atmosphere. Two of those along side an upgraded (matching) 27" iMac and apple would have taken approximately $5500-$6000 from me this year. But instead they will get nothing. I know many other 27" iMac users who are boycotting apple this year for the same reason. Maybe that's why you can already pickup a display in the stores?

Back to the drawing board apple, your decision to kill the 27" iMac is going to cost you. People are just going to wait for an upgraded Mac mini and use a 3rd party display.
 
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what about storage slots and pci-e for an pro system?
Modular in terms that you can change/upgrade the display, storage and other features added via the Thunderbolt 4 and USB ports. It supports up to 5 displays. So for the most part it is more modular than the iMac or Mac mini.
 
That doesn't make any sense. By that definition, any product that accept peripherals is modular, yet the product description makes it sound like this is something new based on research and professional requests for a new modular system.

What exactly don't I like? I've already said I like this product. I have no complaints about this product. I'm going to buy this product. I like it. I don't want to upgrade the RAM. I don't want to slot in a new drive. I don't need PCIe slots. I like it. I like the product. The product is good. Good product. Product good. Confusion about marketing does not equate to Apple bashing.
In my experience modular means any computer that is headless without a display so a modular computer is one that does not have a display two different modules the CPU and Display (Mac Mini and now the Mac Studio). And expandable computer is one that has internal slots, drive bays, ram slots etc (Mac Pro). I think when Apple first introduced the Mac Mini they did call it modular. An all-in-one customer has the CPU and Display in the same unit, in other words one single module like the iMac.
 
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