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What good is sleep tracking if your watch's battery doesn't fast charge?
Usually I’ll take the watch off for an hour or two in the morning hours to charge and then wear it all day and all night - works fine for me. Sure, quicker charging is nice, bit not really necessary for me anymore.
 
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I seriously doubt it. Fan club members will always find an excuse to pay more for Apple products, but most others won't. I have a Garmin watch I bought many years ago for around $100 that keeps charged for 5 days, is small and more comfortable to wear at night, and likely tracks my sleep as well as an Apple watch. This isn't rocket science after all. Why on earth would I pay hundreds of dollars for a huge, clunky, overpriced behemoth that can't even run a full 24 hours without running out of charge? I just don't buy into form over function, especially when it comes to my health. And as buggy as all of the current Apple OSes are, I don't feel comfortable in trusting watchOS, or any other makers's watches either, with my health. For people who really need to monitor their health, wearing a fashion statement is not important, but accurate health data is. Apple still cares more about the fashion statement aspect...
Do you find yourself spending much time commenting on articles discussing improvements for products you seemingly don’t like and don’t use?
 
Apple need to bring MagSafe to the Apple Watch on the front side so it can be charged while sleeping. If you roll over it will disconnect. :rolleyes:
 
I’ve been using the sleep tracking since the beta was released on Monday and it’s really accurate. I notice what time I go to bed each night and when I check it in the morning, it’s usually spot on. I also noticed I don’t sleep enough. Lol.
I was actually surprised by the “awake“ time. I’ve always felt like it takes FOREVER for me to fall asleep, but the sleep tracking has been putting my time ”awake” at less than a half hour a night and that is including the time I wake up to get some water. It’s always felt like forever, but looking at the tracking data, I’ve actually been able to account for all that time. I’m surprised.
 
Kinda confused by the battery life posts. My AW6 usually only uses about 50% charge per 24 hours, and I only take it off to charge. And a typical day uses the workout app for 45-60 minutes. I have "Always On" off though. I usually charge it up to about 80% - 90% for 30-40 minutes while reading before bed time.

I'm excited for the enhanced sleep tracking. It doesn't have to be perfect in an absolute sense. The relative changes over time should be good enough to get a sense of my sleep hygiene.
 
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I am FULLY convinced that this kind of detection is NOT accurate.

As a lot of other kind of measurement performed by Apple Watch (and the problem is not the Apple Watch itself, but the fact that it measures on the wrist, that it is not the best place for some measurement -like O2, temperature- or it is good but it is insufficient, in the sense that MORE sensor placed ALSO elsewhere are needed to gather full data, see EGC).

In this specific case of sleep tracking, the big problem is that it is based on accelerations (and heart rate), not by measurement of cerebral activity (the only thing that can tell you your REAL sleep phase). Me for e.g., sometime I had difficult to fall asleep but sometime will waiting sleep I stay motionless.

This is the reason because most 'health' related features are a complete ********. Instead of doing a real measure of you want measure, they measure ANOTHER thing, then they try to deduce what they want measure with machine learning.

Like for e.g. if I want to estimate how it is tall a person from a picture without having any reference size in this picture, but basing myself on suppositions about other objects in the picture. Yes, I could obtain a value that most of time is reasonable... but not real, only reasonable, and only some of the time.

Even the activity tracking is a ******** (BTW each ride with my electric scooter is recognised as a bicycle ride, and calories burned are are completely useless). Also drop detection sometime is triggered by a very fast arm movement (e.g. pound the table with fists because you are very angry :D ), even if you are sitting!

It would be interesting to place one sensor for each limb (maybe two), to have multiple accelerometers, multiple limb leads for ECG (and a real heart rate measurement, based on electric not on supposed color changes in blood). I could be an Apple Watch + multiple and lighter 'smart wristbands' on each limb connected to the Apple Watch.

In this case we could have real data and not simply ********. But it is too cumbersome for a consumer product, I dont see the interest to develop such product...so...smartwatches, for health related data, are simply toys.

(And I am an Apple Watch fan, I like a lot. But for another kind of usage)
Sure there are compromises. It sounds like you'd prefer to have NO tool instead because practically speaking, not many would wear something that required the daily application of multiple sensors on different parts of their body. So, we take the compromise of the single package solution with (hopefully) some understanding that it is not a hospital grade monitoring system.

My own experience: it identified multiple instances of 'signs of afib', none of which were actually afib. BUT, I had another condition that was previously undetected. I am now in the care and monitoring of a cardiologist where perhaps it would have taken a much more serious event to get there. So yes, it was inaccurate, but recognized something was not right.
 
All this about battery life.. I bought a S7 45mm watch about four weeks ago and the battery lasts at least two days, usually more, and it charges in 20-30 minutes. Is this just because it's new? Will the battery degrade so much?
 
I’ve been using the sleep tracking since the beta was released on Monday and it’s really accurate. I notice what time I go to bed each night and when I check it in the morning, it’s usually spot on. I also noticed I don’t sleep enough. Lol.
How do you know it’s accurate through the sleep stages if you are sleeping?

This guy is very good and compared devices to actual sleep monitors.

 
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How do you know it’s accurate through the sleep stages if you are sleeping?

This guy is very good and compared devices to actual sleep monitors.

I’m specifically referring to the time I go to sleep. Let’s say I look at the clock at 12:05 and I fall asleep around 12:15. When I wake up the next morning, my sleep start would show 12:15AM.

I can’t confirmed that the stages are accurate while I sleep, though. But the Sleep Start and Sleep End are nearly spot on while wearing my watch.
 
tracking sleep might be nice, if the watch lasted multiple days. but with it only lasting less than one, overnight is when it gets charged.
Solely a question of routine, as others have mentioned here before. You’re free to charge it for a bit in the evenings or in the mornings. The watch will require about 30% charge to run sleep tracking, as a ballpark point of reference.
 
I am FULLY convinced that this kind of detection is NOT accurate.

As a lot of other kind of measurement performed by Apple Watch (and the problem is not the Apple Watch itself, but the fact that it measures on the wrist, that it is not the best place for some measurement -like O2, temperature- or it is good but it is insufficient, in the sense that MORE sensor placed ALSO elsewhere are needed to gather full data, see EGC).

In this specific case of sleep tracking, the big problem is that it is based on accelerations (and heart rate), not by measurement of cerebral activity (the only thing that can tell you your REAL sleep phase). Me for e.g., sometime I had difficult to fall asleep but sometime will waiting sleep I stay motionless.

This is the reason because most 'health' related features are a complete ********. Instead of doing a real measure of you want measure, they measure ANOTHER thing, then they try to deduce what they want measure with machine learning.

Like for e.g. if I want to estimate how it is tall a person from a picture without having any reference size in this picture, but basing myself on suppositions about other objects in the picture. Yes, I could obtain a value that most of time is reasonable... but not real, only reasonable, and only some of the time.

Even the activity tracking is a ******** (BTW each ride with my electric scooter is recognised as a bicycle ride, and calories burned are are completely useless). Also drop detection sometime is triggered by a very fast arm movement (e.g. pound the table with fists because you are very angry :D ), even if you are sitting!

It would be interesting to place one sensor for each limb (maybe two), to have multiple accelerometers, multiple limb leads for ECG (and a real heart rate measurement, based on electric not on supposed color changes in blood). I could be an Apple Watch + multiple and lighter 'smart wristbands' on each limb connected to the Apple Watch.

In this case we could have real data and not simply ********. But it is too cumbersome for a consumer product, I dont see the interest to develop such product...so...smartwatches, for health related data, are simply toys.

(And I am an Apple Watch fan, I like a lot. But for another kind of usage)

Hear you.
Had to turn off Fall Detection as it kept triggering when I play with my Shiba.
pita.
 
I’ve been using the sleep tracking since the beta was released on Monday and it’s really accurate. I notice what time I go to bed each night and when I check it in the morning, it’s usually spot on. I also noticed I don’t sleep enough. Lol.
Maybe if you quit playing with the watch so much?
 
Sleep tracking seems a bit tricky as the battery isn't all day. Would be amazing if they could stretch out the battery to 2-3 days sometime in the future.

You charge it during shower. So, twice daily.

It’s also recommended that you charge it during sex, otherwise it may accidentally call someone and broadcast whatever you are doing. So, a few times a week I presume.

Those times will more than keep it charged.

I don’t understand how my Apple Watch will be able to track my sleeping patterns at night sue to the fact I leave my watch on a charger overnight. I’m also not using the fast charger.
Look one post up.
 
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