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Some people are still skeptical, but I say that there is just TOO much evidence to suggest Apple is not releasing a player that plays movies, iPod branded or not.
 
I just hope this brings Apple closer and closer to another Newton. After incorporating audio, photos and video, how much of a leap is it before it has a PIM suite like Addressbook, Mail and iCal and scaled-down ports of other OS X apps? I love my Zaurus (I was watching Singin' in the Rain on it last night -- no need to wait for a video iPod), but it just can't compare to my iMac's ease of use.
 
I believe more in a decoder chipset with an external hook-up to the tv, like the photo iPod to display image, but for video. I don't think looking at them on a tiny screen is a real solution, but maybe who know, maybe preview stuff before display them. What would be great is a keynote integration to do presentation with your iPod, a little remote clicker with TV output it may be possible. Thing I would like to see in order of priority:

1-texte input to take note on the go or add thing in the calendar
2-AM/FM radio (yeap local news from time to time is great to listen)
3-Voice recorder
4-Keynote integration with remote clicker
5-Video ouput capability

To do #4, you need #5, so we will see #5 before for sure.
 
Bring it on baby. I want to watch the 3 movie files that play on my laptop without VLC or MPlayer on my iPod!!111

Not to be a troll, but honestly there's not a lot that plays with Quicktime these days without a little noodging.
 
GFLPraxis said:
Remember, H.264 is scalable. No problem with screen resolution.

This is not what's meant by H.264 being scalable.

They mean that H.264 is competitive with other compression methods at both low and high bit rates, both in terms of compression ratio and quality achievable.

It doesn't mean that the output of a single stream works well at all sizes. And it certainly doesn't imply advantages over other codecs with respect to playing back at non-original resolutions.
 
Ti_Poussin said:
I believe more in a decoder chipset with an external hook-up to the tv, like the photo iPod to display image, but for video. I don't think looking at them on a tiny screen is a real solution, but maybe who know, maybe preview stuff before display them. What would be great is a keynote integration to do presentation with your iPod, a little remote clicker with TV output it may be possible. Thing I would like to see in order of priority:

1-texte input to take note on the go or add thing in the calendar
2-AM/FM radio (yeap local news from time to time is great to listen)
3-Voice recorder
4-Keynote integration with remote clicker
5-Video ouput capability

To do #4, you need #5, so we will see #5 before for sure.

mmm . . . keynote to go . . .

I own no laptop, but I own an iPod and will probably get a new one in a year or two (almost out of memory). I love Keynote, and pages is pretty good (I don't care what people say, iWork is good and I wil definatly pay for '06 . . uhm :rolleyes: ).

Anyways, yes keynote presentations to go on an iPod would be good. Add bluetooth to sync it with the projector and the clicker does all the animation/next slide info. This would be a great new asset for iPod for business (entertainment storage device, backup hard drive, Contact/Calender sync, and presentation remote/storage).

The iPod is still music first, but this makes it so much more. It was already the staple for LOTR for transporting film from building to building (see Two Towers extended edition special features).
 
Integration with Keynote would be nice. Bring a little iPod instead of a laptop. Also watching movies on the LCD while flying or hooking up to the suite TV would also be nice.
 
Why on earth would you need HD when playing movies on an iPod screen? Sure, for playing them on the TV would be cool, but the iPod doesn't exactly have an HD screen.
 
This news certainly looks interesting!! But it could be Apple just protecting themselves again with the trademarks as with other products again. True.

I know some people think the iPod screen is way to small to view video on, and they are right. But its not too small to view any sort of video on!

My brother and sister both have some pocket colour TVs which are quite old. They are quite big and bulky but the screen is only the size of my iPod photo screen. I know its a newer age but I still think Apple could make something of it! Music vids definately, other videos I hope too, maybe use the TV/projector AV connection cable more to make the most of the videos. I think it can be done.

I agree with Lacero, intergration with Keynote would be good, as well as Pages and TextEdit so you can get notes to your iPod easier. .Mac intergration is coming along nicely, I'm using it more and more (being as iDisk syncing doesn't work!) and iLife intergration into each program is neat, extend to iPod please!. :rolleyes: . I need some automator action to make any word/text/html document into proper readable text files for the iPod and copy them to the iPod.
 
Nevermind the video. Those quotes mention recording first. 'bout time we had that (and I don't mean voice recording quality either, I want a line in).
 
The second Apple releases an online Video Store I will be all over a video iPod. I'm sure the first generation of the video iPod won't play movies but rather music videos and probably iMovie projects, but once we're able to purchase movies then I'm there.

Obviously the idea isn't to watch a full length movie on a two-inch screen, the idea is to have a portable video player and, if we're lucky, a DVR to output to a TV. I'll definitely buy a video ipod, but I won't be watching many videos on the ipod itself, the whole point will be able to output it.

A lot of people are skeptical, but do a search for the threads regarding the initial release of the iPod. If nothing else those threads are worth reading just for a good laugh. ;)
 
The description of the video iPod sounded like a touch screen video palm pilot with a built-in video camera and voice recorder to me. Or could it be even a miniature tablet?

Boy this sounds like some great new innovation to me because neither of these would seem to work really well with fully fulfilling the description of the product.

Prepare for a surprise Apple fans! :)
 
I can't think of anything more pointless. If it doesn't up the price too much.. Than it's an amusing feature. But the music is the most important part. Such tiny video is just... pointless.
 
i'm thinking they are going to make it work with video glasses or maybe just outputing to a TV like a mini DVR, watching on a small screen would not work.
 
aswitcher said:
Is there any chance the current 4th gen ipods will be able to support video...?

Maybe. When the iPod photo came out, wasn't there talk of there being a ton of "hidden" features? Well, what are they? Have any surfaced (via 3rd part accessories) yet?

Squire
 
upon a bit of thinking i realised that adding video support (something I will probably never use) would involve sticking more powerful chips in the iPod. meaning some beautiful on-the-fly transition effects for slideshows, or an EQ. or something.

video iPod simply means more power
 
I wish the iTunes Music Store would allow you to download Steve's keynotes and play them on the unannounced Video iPod in H.264. Also make the iPod Video a iPod Tivo that you can record TV shows and play them back in full glory on your TV or on the run in high quality and a high enough frame rate.
 
im_to_hyper said:
Well, I'm thinking a video iPod would need to have a PSP-style screen to be successful. No one would wanna watch a video on a current iPod, well, maybe if I was bored I would.

Video out would need to be a must, along with being able to copy DVDs to it... I wonder if Apple is striking up deals with the movie honchos... hmmm...

I agree on the video out (S-Video, please, no crappy composite). As for the movie deals, well, the industry said they wouldn't do it without strong DRM. Intel has strong, hardware DRM. Apple is switching to Intel.

"But what about all those non-DRM PPC boxes?" you say. Well, Apple won't be making them anymore in about 2 years, and the movie industry probably won't care about 3-4% of the marketshare. Besides, DRM works pretty well without any DRM hardware anyway.

"Let them have video" - Steve Jobs (or so I imagine).
 
iPod photo hidden features eh??!! What is my little white and silver backed buddy hiding from me??!! :cool:

That griffin AirClick does look good though!! Been eyeing it up!!

Does anyone actually know for certain what chipset is being used in the iPod photos (including first 40Gb and 60Gb and the latest "iPod with colour display" models???? If not then it surely does leave the question of teh chipset potential wide open, right?!

Apple may not release a totally new iPod video product out like they did photo, I read somewhere that perhaps they wouldn't this time, opting for intergration into the main line like what has happened with the photo, but I don't know. It may be the same 4G iPod design we know and love with better insides, like recording.
 
At Macworld, steve said they were doing things with sony but have we seen much of anything from sony?

Therefor i belive we could be seeing sony PSP videos in iPod Videos, sony has this PSP media selling and it will have very little chance to have any sucess unless other devices can support this video format, it could also have a dock connector and the ability to import videos from an itunes video store. i dont think theres a use for it if it only supports music videos, who watches music vidoes, i guess if you leave Mtv on and the remote is too far awayadn your lazy you may watch some music videos. i bet there would also be a way to connect it to your TV.

i think its getting released at apple expo on september 24th just at the same time the free ipod mimi deal ends.

macosrumors.com also insits that there are some new non-mac apple items coming out very soon.
 
ebunton said:
iPod = the swiss army knife of the digital age.

Aye. I would really love to see Apple do a PDA.

Music, Phone (cell/Wi-Fi/5.2GHz), camera, address book, calendar, to do, Basic computer functions with MacOSX _and_ PalmOS. GPS would be nice too.
 
nate13 said:
but then of course, you can hook it up to a tv, so there ya go.

That's just the point - I assume the video iPod would play anything that quicktime could. With that technology, if you were going somewhere and wanted to show a friend a home movie or something, you wouldn't have to compress and burn it to a (S)VCD or DVD. Just throw it on the iPod, and bring the AV cable. It's brilliant, and a money saver on expensive DVD-Rs. Best part is, I'm sure the popular codecs will release installable plugins for the iPod (Divx, 3ivx, inc.), making it the most versitile portable video player on the market.

Hey Apple, wanna make it the ultimate digital portable device? Add the video support, and then add this:

Throw in a Wi-Fi chip (you can even jack up the price $50 if you need to) and add the "Radio" element from iTunes. Screw XM or sirius - you'd have free Internet radio - on the iPod - whenever you're in a hotspot. With hotspots blowing up all over the place, I imagine few places you could go where you wouldn't get a connection in the near future. Best part is, you'd have no subscription fee.
 
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