I don't see this an Apple bashing thread. It's the truth, they have some major issues with their maps. What's so bad about being realistic about it? For the image the company likes to project, it was a fiasco.
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Dunno where you live, but it always works for me. I just don't use it much because there's no voice navigation on the Maps app for iPhone 4
Bingo. We need a crusade to get Cook FIRED. They have so much money they don't know how to spend / invest it for the Apple Ecosystem but they can't get a current featured Mac Pro out and they are just now hiring a mapping team
Yes, let's fire Cook because of the Mac Pro. The world of 2013 is eagerly awaiting a huge, stationary desktop tower. Apple isn't innovating in this space, which is why Dell is... or is it HP... wait is HP even in business anymore? Is it Compaq? Could you remind me which company is building that amazing tower that everyone wants and is doing billions and billions in annual revenue??
Dunno where you live, but it always works for me. I just don't use it much because there's no voice navigation on the Maps app for iPhone 4
It works good for a lot of people, it's just that there are some well publicized problems. It wasn't up to Apple standards.
They aren't going to just toss in any correction that comes in, otherwise folks would turn it into a game to screw around with things.
The links highlight issues which they then verify and correct. That takes time. If you don't have the desire to wait, Tim pointed out several other sources.
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If by ready you mean 100% accurate then it would never be released.
That it was released at the level that it was is partly due to the vastness of change and the need for user imput so they can have something in the next decade. And partly due to a certain ego that likely said it was ready when it wasn't. Apple has this nasty habit of trusting SVPs etc when they say things, same with partners. They found out the hard way that this time that was a bad move and they got half ass data and an iOS full of serious bugs. And it's possible that that same ego was in charge of data oversight which might be why Cook demanded he apologize to the users as well. When Forstall didn't, out he went. Bad enough he was an ass that wouldn't listen to anyone but Steve and didn't play with others, failing the customers on a huge level was the end.
Tim vowed to work on the issue and it has happened. These are managers, who knows how many staff are already in place and doing work. Major updates have happened in some areas and the rest will come. Not even Google was perfect for the like the first 5 years. Heck it still is only perhaps 95% there (if you don't include their driving instructions which are more like 70% there)
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For you. Many folks might just disagree with that opinion. Myself included.
The only thing close to a 'google app' that I have is Snapseed and I had it way before they bought it. I don't have Google Maps, Plus, Hangout, Gmail or any of the rest of that stuff and both my ipad and iphone are hella useful for me.
I wouldn't expect it to be 100% accurate. But it sure wasn't ready for prime time when it was released. I think that egos and arrogance had a lot to do with the problem. They may have actually believed that they were going to outdo Google on something that Google has been doing for years and has thousands of employees working on.
IMO, Apple should have done a bit more quality control before they released it.
Those are all rumors, nothing more, at this point. So given that there's zero proven truth to any of them, they are hardly 'unfulfilled' anything.
That you would see them that way just shows that you are the type to believe what you read no matter the 'unnamed sources', like many of the folks that listen to pulled it from a lower orifice speaking analysts.
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Who do you think was in charge of iOS QC. Scott Forstall. The same ego jerk that wasted time on cute moving shadows on faux knobs while missing a serious wifi bug. Same guy that refused to apologize for Maps, an act he was likely asked to do because he was in charge of the software and making sure everything was in order by launch.
I don't doubt that. I think the upper management is full of itself, and Steve was even more of an egomaniac. I would still think that if it was tested, some of these faults would have been found. The buck stops at the top. Cook. This time, it turned around and bit them. Hopefully they have learned from it.
Well, how does it compare to the picture in Apple Maps? Exactly, no competition. Apple Maps is a competitor to Google Maps only in nagromme's (and some other super Apple fans) World.
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Aren't you being simply ridiculous? Do you really think that one can only have a negative opinion of something if he is entitled to something? What kind of logic is that?
In Google maps? I can give you so many of them in my area (Manchester) and you compare them with the Apple maps. Google's satellite view is like 5 years out of date, Apple's is up to date and high quality.
Agreed. But just like GOOGLE's Maps took time to perfect, APPLE will get this right, eventually.
Please, at least try to search why they use camera cars before making such uninformed comments
Entirely correct. No competition. I really like Google Street View. It's something that makes me have a need for 2 mapping applications.
I was responding to Google maps being blurry - and it's true. I was not alluding that Apple Maps were better.
Dunno where you live, but it always works for me. I just don't use it much because there's no voice navigation on the Maps app for iPhone 4
I live in North Carolina. Literally, the first business location I tried during the beta period of iOS 6, a McDonalds near me that was torn down more than a year ago, showed up both in satellite and location data. It is still there, despite 3 correction submissions. The ghost McDonalds. I'm waiting for this to be fixed before I try any other locations. It is inexcusable to have incorrect info on a large corporation like this after more than a year.
They'll need several people in Lhasa, Tibet. An entire city reduced to a dot!
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Your reading skills must be a bit limited - the Mac Pro example is but one small example that I cited - it is the whole picture that needs to be looked at. 40% loss of stock value, maps introduction, using your biggest competitor for sourcing screens and chips. on and on.
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Well said. It is just seems easier to bash Apple and forget that Google has the same issues.
I thought that people expected more refinement from Apple than they do from it's competitors?
My experience with Apple Maps has been better that google maps (data included).
But I am in the States which doesn't have the same issues others have reported.
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Agreed.
But when Apple isn't heads above the competition, there tends to be an exaggeration of the issues. Hopefully, Apple is committed to delivering a world wide mapping solution that is up to the expected standards.
And once someone is killed in an accident with one of these unmanned cars, regardless of who is at fault, do you really believe they will remain on the streets?
All it takes is one glitch and the whole thing comes crashing down. One little kiddie gets run over and that's it. Doesn't matter if they're safer than the average driver, there will be no errors allowed, ever.
Than why do you only look at the negatives?
Or 25% increase in stock value since Tim Cook took over as CEO.
Bad mistake, but what impact did it actually have on Apple?
Ignoring that Tim Cook has actually diversified Apple's suppliers.
Or those were the only significant examples that you could come up with, and you just want to imply a long list of problems.