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Apple Expands 'Nearby' Maps Feature to More Countries, Adds New Flyover Locations

patrickbarnes said:
People use Apple Maps?
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You bet. Nothing by Google touches my devices.
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Aika said:
What don't I know? I find Street View very usable on both portable devices and on the desktop.

Good for you if Apple Maps matches your use case but for many not having a functional transit feature is an instant deal breaker. Even if you live in a city covered by Apple's transit data, it doesn't work if you live in the suburbs or if you need to travel outside of that city. Apple Maps is fundamentally broken for those of us who rely on public transport and that's most Europeans living in urban areas.
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********. I live in New York and don't need transit directions from Apple Maps or Google. If you live here and don't know how to use the Subway, or the LIRR, or Metro North etc., you should probably go back where you came from. That includes people living in Paris, London, Madrid, Rome etc. for their respective transit systems as well.
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Aston441 said:
Still five years behind Google Maps.

They could have bought Nokia Here Maps and immediately caught up. Instead they bought Beats.

Then Google bought Songza, a better product, for 1/100th the price and created Google Music as it now stands, which is arguably better than the Apple version.

How much longer can this go on?

Twenty years before GM went bankrupt they were the largest company on Earth. No one could have ever imagined GM going under.

Is Apple too big to fail?
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Go back to Mountainview.
 
Aston441 said:
Still five years behind Google Maps.

They could have bought Nokia Here Maps and immediately caught up. Instead they bought Beats.

Then Google bought Songza, a better product, for 1/100th the price and created Google Music as it now stands, which is arguably better than the Apple version.

How much longer can this go on?

Twenty years before GM went bankrupt they were the largest company on Earth. No one could have ever imagined GM going under.

Is Apple too big to fail?
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Says who exactly? The world famous tech expert Aston441.

Sometimes it is better to keep your uneducated opinion to yourself. I'm certainly not interested.
 
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Apple Maps has never steered me wrong, not even once. And its integration with Siri is great, because plotting with Google Maps is clumsy at best. Areas where it could improve: up-to-the-minute traffic data, and the ability avoid tolls when plotting a route (currently have to manually avoid them and make Maps re-reoute). Not sure why that last one is still a thing.
 
kds1 said:
********. I live in New York and don't need transit directions from Apple Maps or Google. If you live here and don't know how to use the Subway, or the LIRR, or Metro North etc., you should probably go back where you came from. That includes people living in Paris, London, Madrid, Rome etc. for their respective transit systems as well.
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Wow. Just wow. So what about all the millions of people who visit these cities every year? And I don't know about the NY transit system, but I'd certainly guess there'd be very, very few Londoners who would know the route between any two transit stations. Alperton to Gospel Oak anyone (without cheating!)? Or maybe they should "go back to where they came from" (do you mean the native NYers and Londoners by that, who surely are already there, or are you implying that tourists who need a map should pack their bags and catch the first return flight?)
 
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dmnc said:
One year later and still I don't understand why they bought beats. The moment in the Keynote presented by those guys was embarrassing...
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How about the deal paid for itself in three years in terms of Beats hardware sales, and through the deal Apple acquired needed talented to improve its music offerings?


Unlike some purchases by big companies, Beats was profitable.
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Aston441 said:
Still five years behind Google Maps.

They could have bought Nokia Here Maps and immediately caught up. Instead they bought Beats.

Then Google bought Songza, a better product, for 1/100th the price and created Google Music as it now stands, which is arguably better than the Apple version.

How much longer can this go on?

Twenty years before GM went bankrupt they were the largest company on Earth. No one could have ever imagined GM going under.

Is Apple too big to fail?
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Five years behind Google? By what standard? I doubt you use the product enough to make an informed observation. Further you have no idea what Apple has in the pipeline for maps and how far along it is. I've seen Apple Vans four times in two months and I live in Michigan.

Did you ever use the Nokia Maps app? It was pretty bad. Further, you suggest Apple over paid for beats, but you wanted it to by the very expensive Nokia Here?

Apple's Maps is no worst at giving directions than competitors (at least in North America). Where it falls short is poi data, which it is quickly improving and isn't important to everybody. I suspect iOS 10 will have big map improvements as well.
 
NightFox said:
Wow. Just wow. So what about all the millions of people who visit these cities every year? And I don't know about the NY transit system, but I'd certainly guess there'd be very, very few Londoners who would know the route between any two transit stations. Alperton to Gospel Oak anyone (without cheating!)? Or maybe they should "go back to where they came from" (do you mean the native NYers and Londoners by that, who surely are already there, or are you implying that tourists who need a map should pack their bags and catch the first return flight?)
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You need a ****ing app for that? You're too dense to go to another city and use their metro system? You need help? You can't look at a station map and figure out where you are going? You need an app to spell it out for you? Seriously?

What did people do pre smart phones? I went to London, I went to Paris. 1999. No smartphone. Got around on the underground and metro just fine.

Really?
 
kds1 said:
You need a ****ing app for that? You're too dense to go to another city and use their metro system? You need help? You can't look at a station map and figure out where you are going? You need an app to spell it out for you? Seriously?

What did people do pre smart phones? I went to London, I went to Paris. 1999. No smartphone. Got around on the underground and metro just fine.

Really?
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Yeah let's all throw our smartphones in the bin and fish out our old Nokia phones and iPods.

Then we'll commit to memory or print out all the bus routes and train/tram times we'll need for the day and a metro map for good measure.

Or we can just check routes in seconds using Google Maps or Citymapper like we've been doing for the last several years.

Listen to yourself please...
 
Transit is still only available in 14 cities in the world... LOL, Apple...
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kds1 said:
You need a ****ing app for that? You're too dense to go to another city and use their metro system? You need help? You can't look at a station map and figure out where you are going? You need an app to spell it out for you? Seriously?

What did people do pre smart phones? I went to London, I went to Paris. 1999. No smartphone. Got around on the underground and metro just fine.

Really?
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CityMapper gives me the exact time the bus will arrive in London, it's awesome. It calculates which route is the best and helps me save 5' here, 10' there, it tells me trains are delayed, go to that other station to take another line, it tells me about the availability of bikes around me, it is even better than Uber at telling me how long it's going to be until my driver picks me up - in the event I go for Uber.

Apple Maps is lightyears behind Citymapper, and fairly far behind Google Maps!
 
emhiil said:
Available in Sweden too for at least a week
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You mean, the back yard of Norway? ... Just a joke, Nice country by the way. Just visited it recently, Apple maps worked 98% of the time (always get on time and accurately - and I drove like 1,500km around the country). But I need to admit that I used google maps too, and the results were similar.
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Aston441 said:
Still five years behind Google Maps.
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Yes, that is right. Google maps were developed several years before Apple Maps. Why we should complaint about apple actually trying to develop better maps with multiple options. I don't use the 3d flyovers locations, despite my house looks perfectly on them. I just consider 3D flyover locations are just for playing around with the maps app. I'll like them to make a better maps/driving assistance app that could take me from point A to B without too much trouble and up to my experience I thing they had improved a lot during the last years.
 
Brunswick? Great, just a few years after moving away. :p
Now I'm back in my home city and it'll take ages till Kassel is added to the list I guess.
I would love to explore my city in new ways actually.

Sure, it's a gimmick, but why not?
Sucks enough that my city isn't covered by Streetview.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Aika said:
Yeah let's all throw our smartphones in the bin and fish out our old Nokia phones and iPods.

Then we'll commit to memory or print out all the bus routes and train/tram times we'll need for the day and a metro map for good measure.

Or we can just check routes in seconds using Google Maps or Citymapper like we've been doing for the last several years.

Listen to yourself please...
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Ummm, you ever heard of looking at the map in the station? Don't be so helpless.
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kyjaotkb said:
Transit is still only available in 14 cities in the world... LOL, Apple...
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CityMapper gives me the exact time the bus will arrive in London, it's awesome. It calculates which route is the best and helps me save 5' here, 10' there, it tells me trains are delayed, go to that other station to take another line, it tells me about the availability of bikes around me, it is even better than Uber at telling me how long it's going to be until my driver picks me up - in the event I go for Uber.

Apple Maps is lightyears behind Citymapper, and fairly far behind Google Maps!
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Google sells you, you are the product. "LOL" Google.
 
kds1 said:
You need a ****ing app for that? You're too dense to go to another city and use their metro system? You need help? You can't look at a station map and figure out where you are going? You need an app to spell it out for you? Seriously?

What did people do pre smart phones? I went to London, I went to Paris. 1999. No smartphone. Got around on the underground and metro just fine.

Really?
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Yes really. It's got nothing to do with being "too dense", it's about using technology to make life easier. People used to use road atlases, now they use GPS/SatNav, not because they're "too dense" but because it's easier.

Of course we all used to use public transport maps and timetables before smartphones, in the same way we used to use typewriters before we had word processors. But if I want to know how to get from the V&A Museum in London to meet a friend at The London Dungeon by public transport, work that out the old fashioned way and tell me it's not easier to do it with technology.
 
NightFox said:
Yes really. It's got nothing to do with being "too dense", it's about using technology to make life easier. People used to use road atlases, now they use GPS/SatNav, not because they're "too dense" but because it's easier.

Of course we all used to use public transport before smartphones, in the same way we used to use typewriters before we had word processors. But if I want to know how to get from the V&A Museum in London to meet a friend at The London Dungeon by public transport, work that out the old fashioned way and tell me it's not easier to do it with technology.
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It IS easier manually. Technology isn't the savior. A friend of mine came to NYC and rented a car to go someplace in New Jersey. The ****ing GPS unit he brought with him kept giving wrong directions. I told him to chuck it and just use a bloody map. Done. Easier. Accurate.

Same with the underground. Look at a bloody map (including the one on your phone). Find the nearest station to your destination. Buy an underground ticket, get on the train and go. Do you need a computer to hold your bloody hand? Look at the farkin map in the station and figure out within seconds if you need to transfer lines and where. Simple. Done. Accurate.

For Christs sake. Maybe since I live in a city where I use a comprehensive subway system every day, it's just easy and efficient for me. Probably. Tourists don't seem to know how to read platform signs...even though they are OBVIOUS.
 
Apple Maps is really limited in England. For example, look at how the Broads National Park is drawn on Apple Maps compared to Google Maps.
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Also, look at how the same area is draw on OpenStreetMap (which I contribute to and is used in Apple Maps).
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jakebro said:
Apple Maps is really limited in England. For example, look at how the Broads National Park is drawn on Apple Maps compared to Google Maps.
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Also, look at how the same area is draw on OpenStreetMap (which I contribute to and is used in Apple Maps).
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And where was Google at this point in it's development? Everyone seems to forget all the errors, mistakes, and bad mapping Google had the first few years. I Sent in tons of error reports back then.
 
Dude. Misplaced hatred. Simply search "beats revenue" and "songza revenue" to get an idea of why Apple acquired Beats. I understand you don't like Apple Maps (I don't either), but you're comparing apples to oranges (see what I did there??) by bringing up the business decision to buy Beats.

Aston441 said:
Still five years behind Google Maps.

They could have bought Nokia Here Maps and immediately caught up. Instead they bought Beats.

Then Google bought Songza, a better product, for 1/100th the price and created Google Music as it now stands, which is arguably better than the Apple version.

How much longer can this go on?

Twenty years before GM went bankrupt they were the largest company on Earth. No one could have ever imagined GM going under.

Is Apple too big to fail?
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