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Perfect Timing . . .

This works out well, as I was already planning on purchasing a new Air in June/July anyway.

My only question is, if the Haswell specs are allegedly better for battery life, how much better can we expect?
 
after what tim said

at the earnings meeting about waiting on the iMac its possible they could wait but the only real important thing is the release of the mac pro and the subsequent update to logic pro. If I get another laptop it will not happen till fall anyway.
 
Ethernet

I think it was a mistake for Apple to ditch a physical ethernet port. I know they won't put this back, but for me I won't be buying another MBP. I work as a contractor and the majority of sites I go to don't have effective wireless, or if it is good it's only a guest network and no good for development work. Plenty of sites are happy for contractors to use their own laptops on the physical network though and having to cart around an ethernet adaptor is just plain crap. It's not about the physical weight, it's about having to buy an adaptor for something that should be onboard. Apple need to take another look at the lighter and thinner approach they seem obsessed with. Lighter is good, but if thinner means I have to carry adaptors rather than been able to just plug in a cable then the design is wrong. A thought Apple were supposed to understand simplicity.

It's all nice having a 'retina' display and the latest CPU, but when basic connectivity is missing the design is flawed. And while I am on the subject of displays, why no matt option? Yes it might be '75% less reflective than the previous model' or some other marketing pish, but it's still a lot more reflective than a matt screen . The whole IT industry needs to get rid of glossy and produce screens that you can use in daylight with a window behind you - not everyone get's a choice about where they sit at work.
 
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If Tim Cook says the exciting products are coming in the fall, and these release before fall as I expect them to, that means we'll just get a spec bump and no modification to the body of the Air/cMBP/rMBP I guess?

my 2011 13" air is running strong, main thing that would be tempting would be an IPS-strapped air, ideally retina, ideally not LG display/Toshiba SSD.
 
Well if Apple isn't able to move the MacBook Air to a retina display this year since power, cost, and supply are probably still issues, then there isn't much point in doing a design refresh without it. The Retina MacBook Pro are new designs so it wasn't very likely there will be major design changes so soon anyways.

I do wonder if Apple is able to get a GT3e Haswell in the MacBook Air since that will offer a very impressive GPU boost. The rumours currently indicate that GT3e Haswell sadly won't be available in ULV form though.

The air will not get retina for years period. There is no way to do it due to power consumption and no way it makes sense as then the pro really has no advantage over the air. When the air could potentially get retina it will just be the pro and the air will be dropped entirely from the line. More likely next step for the air line will be to decrease bezel size on the screen to decrease overall size of the 13" and keep the 11.6" the same size but increase the display to a 16:10 aspect ratio
 
They should release new and updated products as soon as they can.... not wait to announce them at a show or conference.
 
It would be a GIANT mistake to remove the MBP non-retina line this early. The price of FLASH is still too high and professionals NEED more storage than 512GB in many cases. 768GB Flash is not affordable and 1TB is ridiculous, especially after the Apple Tax on a rMBP. If they remove the MBP non-retina line, they will eliminate a large base of customers who need a pro laptop.

Giant mistake for who?

A mistake for Apple would imply they get lower sales and that people like you are very common. I'm not saying they aren't (they could), but you personnal anecdote tells nothing about if it's really a mistake for Apple.

I have a feeling this will indeed happen, but guess what? External hard drives exist and you'll still be able to buy a refurb 2012 cMBP for something like 2 years, just like you can still buy a refurb 2011 17" cMBP right now.
 
The air will not get retina for years period. There is no way to do it due to power consumption and no way it makes sense as then the pro really has no advantage over the air. When the air could potentially get retina it will just be the pro and the air will be dropped entirely from the line. More likely next step for the air line will be to decrease bezel size on the screen to decrease overall size of the 13" and keep the 11.6" the same size but increase the display to a 16:10 aspect ratio


lol

You mean an iPad can get a Retina display but not a Macbook Air? Wake up.
 
I've always thought that Apple could replace the screen in the 13.3" and 15.4" with 14" and 16.1" with out changing the dimensions of the laptop because the bezel is so wide. I'd like to see that.

Next update they do they almost certainly have to include the wireless ab standard and accompanying support hardware (upgraded Airport base station, Time Capsule).
 
Hey :apple: Larger Capacity SSDs please!
Too bad you can't change the RAM after purchase. So make sure you order the right one.
 
yes so?

but arent discounted previous gen, all refurbs?

so? if there are a ton of 'new' previous gens left, they just stuff them into a plain brown box, refurb is better on the environment and your pocket. no ifs, ands, or buts.

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if the bezel on the air gets thinned out dramatically - i'll buy in. or if the 13" r-macbook trims down and beefs up i'll sell my 15" oven-r-macbook. but every time i use my 17"MOSTER-mbp i feel immense contentment and still have big hopes for her return ^_^
 
I think it was a mistake for Apple to ditch a physical ethernet port. I know they won't put this back, but for me I won't be buying another MBP. I work as a contractor and the majority of sites I go to don't have effective wireless, or if it is good it's only a guest network and no good for development work. Plenty of sites are happy for contractors to use their own laptops on the physical network though and having to cart around an ethernet adaptor is just plain crap.

It's all nice having a 'retina' display and the latest CPU, but when basic connectivity is missing the design is flawed.

Having done the contracting gig myself, I don't find using an adapter as a big deal. Bigger issues IMO is that the rMBP screen is still more glossy than the Macbook Airs...
 
What is wrong with a thunderbolt external drive? Cheap and fast. Or just a firewire external drive, cheaper and fast enough?

I'm just curious what activities require more than 512 GB of storage but also demand such a high degree of portability that a 2 pound external drive is a problem? And yet, this activity does not benefit more from moving off an internal HD so an SSD (which seems to me the biggest performance boost for most activities in the last several years of computing). I mean I understand the value proposition of the non-retina MBP line to save $500. But in what context is it actually a more productive machine?

I don't want to carry around an external drive, my iTunes and Aperture libraries take up the vast majority of the drive, in fact I have to keep a large percentage of the stuff outside of the libraries and on externals as it is.

My wet dream is having a retina upgrade and being able to remove the superdrive and have 2xtb, then I can always have my flac collection with me as well. :)
 
The air will not get retina for years period. There is no way to do it due to power consumption and no way it makes sense as then the pro really has no advantage over the air. When the air could potentially get retina it will just be the pro and the air will be dropped entirely from the line. More likely next step for the air line will be to decrease bezel size on the screen to decrease overall size of the 13" and keep the 11.6" the same size but increase the display to a 16:10 aspect ratio

If IGZO displays are ready to go in sufficient quantities, they'll be able to ship them. As far as I'm aware, the only problem with IGZO at the moment is being able to purchase sufficient quantities, and having two suppliers in the supply chain.
 
It would be a GIANT mistake to remove the MBP non-retina line this early. The price of FLASH is still too high and professionals NEED more storage than 512GB in many cases. 768GB Flash is not affordable and 1TB is ridiculous, especially after the Apple Tax on a rMBP. If they remove the MBP non-retina line, they will eliminate a large base of customers who need a pro laptop.

:rolleyes:

Umm...

1. If you are a 'pro laptop customer' you are using an SSD and probably retina display. If you are not, I'm not sure I would call you a 'pro anything'.

2. If you are a 'pro laptop customer' you probably need more than 1TB of space anyway so you have an external storage solution using TB or USB3.

3. MBPc will be phased out by Apple. This year? Maybe. Next year? Probably.

-P
 
1. If you are a 'pro laptop customer' you are using an SSD and probably retina display. If you are not, I'm not sure I would call you a 'pro anything'.

lol what? I think you are unaware of a lot of industries where pro people don't give a toss about retina and are more interested in storage combined with mobility.
 
I'm hoping for a rMBA but from the article it looks like it is unlikely to be in the next refresh.
 
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