Cool, thanks. I just got a new Air about 2-3 weeks ago, but after seeing the most recent news story showing the only improvement is a slightly updated processor I think I'm fine with my 2013 Air.
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Apple Expected to Release Updated MacBook Airs Tomorrow
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Cool, thanks. I just got a new Air about 2-3 weeks ago, but after seeing the most recent news story showing the only improvement is a slightly updated processor I think I'm fine with my 2013 Air.
True that, I forgot that aspect of it. And they haven't announced a new phone that wasn't ready to ship since the original, correct?
actually this makes me think even more that we are in for redesign. Just giving the non-retina air's one last bump.
Nope! 12" Mini will be Broadwell powered and come late in the year. As for the Mini, I'm really hoping for a sign of life!!!!
In any event WWDC will be saved for significantly updated products or better yet all new products.
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Actually because Intels bump sucks so much I'm hoping for a doubling of flash storage at a given price point. Admittedly addressing the RAM problem would be nice too. In the end though I need more storage.
The screen size, the cpu and gpu, thickens and lightness and 2xThunderbolt ports(MBP) and with the 13" macbook pro you can add 16 gb ram and you can add up to 1T flash drive that you cant in the next MBA
So enough differences?
Honestly, not really. When the 17" MBP was still around, it had 3 USB ports in it compared to just 2 in the 13" & 15" MBPs. Plus, the 17" screen was, obviously, at least 2" bigger than the other MBPs. I believe that the 13" MBP didn't have a discrete GPU. So why wasn't the 17" MBP called a MacBook Super-Duper Amazingly Awesome or something?
As for thickness/lightness, I've used both the new 13" MBA & 13" rMBP. Not much of a difference, in my opinion.
For RAM, I'll give you that since it's soldered now.
The SSDs can potentially be upgraded down the line, once OWC or whoever makes them.
Of course, this is only my opinion. You're more than welcome to to make your own.
Worst they blame Apple for Intels failure to deliver on time. AIR cries out for Broadwell as that would lead to significant innovation. As you note this looks like a simple bump to give the machines a "new" glow.
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Come on you can do better than this. All they are doing is updating to Intels latest on their hottest selling Mac. Look at the whining coming from the Mini crowd to see what happens if Apple doesn't update.
As for why not WWDC that ought to be pretty obvious to anyone with a clue about how Apple operates. WWDC is saved for new technology releases that need developer support. Releasing new AIRs well before WWDC is a good sign as it indicates that they have more interesting things to release.
I like that "No Questions asked" in the store in town it's like why are you returning it and the customer says either nothing or the apple rep gets all attitude. Just depends on the store and attitude of both parties, but remember the customer is always right
Apple always tries to have new laptop hardware available for the back to school buying season which basically starts right about now and ends just before September. It is a very significant market and something Apple needs to support.
Balance that with the probability that Broadwell won't ship until very late in the year and maybe even latter for suitable chips for an Air refresh and you will realize that Apple has little choice. Apple simply will offer the best Air they can for the market as it is now, because most of the buyers during the summer months have hard deadlines to meet.
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Yep! People don't realize how important this market is to Apple nor the ability to offer new hardware. By the way Apple has tried to offer new hardware into the back to school market every year for sometime now. It isn't a hardware clearing promotion. In fact in the past they had to ramp up production to meet the bump in sales.
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Read the spec sheets! If you don't understand then I really don't know what to say.
Oh come on here, Haswell is a huge step forward for the Mini.
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This happens all the time with Apple. Minor bumps are gotten out of the way early to keep press exposure on what is new at WWDC.
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At the very least they could have thrown us a bone with an SSD or RAM update. Both of these are on a downward cost slide so an update would hardly effect margins.
It is OK but performance wise the price is no longer justified.
So you don't care about desktop power consumption? Most of us do be it avoiding a big power bill or simply environmental concerns.
No the real difference is the possibility for a dramatically better GPU. A GPU that does graphics better but also is most impressive as a compute unit. You are out of touch if you don't see Haswell as significant in the Mini. Obviously Broadwell would be even better but I don't want to wait another 8-10 months for that.
You do realize that almost nobody agrees with that? Haswell offers the potential for a very nice GPU upgrade in the Mini. Now is not the time to be buying a Mini.
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This happens all the time with Apple. Minor bumps are gotten out of the way early to keep press exposure on what is new at WWDC.
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At the very least they could have thrown us a bone with an SSD or RAM update. Both of these are on a downward cost slide so an update would hardly effect margins.
I don't know what the normal decision point, but if you look at cost, anything above 256 GB Air with 8 GB RAM starts to blend into same spec rMBP pricing which is stupid....
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I agree with you about an Air price drop but Apple loves their margins. As for the Mini, I highly doubt it so I hedged by upgrading 2012 Mini from entry to mid price with an XP voucher at Best Buy. I can always return it if they release a new Mini in the next few weeks, but I'm really starting to doubt that they will.
Its not Apple, its Intel who delayed it and expect it right in time for the holidays if Intel delivers mobile chips on current schedule
I think we are talking about two different things.
Your original post stated:
"Sounds like a speed bump to deplete inventory parts
with something new in the fall."
To which I responded there are no excess parts b/c parts are delivered "just-in-time." The inventory you referred to was parts inventory; i.e., cases and screens & such. Your thought was Apple went forward w/ a minor bump to exhaust parts inventory & once accomplished Apple would show something more major. But again, there is no overstock of parts. That's not how manufacturing operates. Whatever Apple's reason is for only doing a small upgrade it's not b/c too many screens or cases are in inventory.
Now as to your newest post, yes, possible, even probable, Intel gave them an incentive on better/newer procs. I never said otherwise, and that has nothing to do w/ your original premise.
really? i haven't clicked my physical trackpad button in years. I hate that loud "KA THUNK!"
Have you seen the power consumption of the 2012 Mac mini?
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3468
So no, I don't care about reduced power consumption as a *determining* factor.
Do you think the Haswell in a Mac mini is a serious GPU upgrade in OS X? OS X's graphics drivers have, and unless something changes - always will be a TOTAL joke.
For references, my "gaming" PC is my decked-out 2012 iMac. But I run Windows 7 on it when I want to game. e.g. Diablo 3 at 1440p hits 60fps pretty solidly in Windows 7, and runs about 20-30fps with the same settings in OS X. And that's Blizzard, who actually care about Mac gamers.
The Haswell GPU is, of course, an upgrade (duh), but for people who really care about GPU performance, the Haswell 4400/4600/5000 series is not going to change their minds.
Oh, and because this always happens... Broadwell? Why would you want Broadwell. EVERYONE knows that the real upgrade is the architecture coming out AFTER Broadwell.
If the price stays the same and the specs are very slightly improved over leaving the machine unchanged, in what way is that 'money grabbing'?
This is just a minor change in the processor, probably driven by the availability of processors Intel is currently shipping.
Yeah that's what I mean. I don't think the entry level model should have 8gb but you shouldn't have to do BTO just to get 8gb of ram. (so similar to how the 13" rMBP line up is now).
How can you claim to innovate when your waiting for Intel? What exactly is stopping apple adding retina displays to the Airs? It's not intel.
That was close. No the Website is back to an article about worthless phone rumors. I thought for a moment that they were back to being interested in real computers. Silly me.
Add me to the growing list of people who want an updated Mac Mini. Yes, I know the 2012 is decently powerful, but I have a mid 2011 model, and I'm not paying full price for a machine that's one year newer than mine, but now going on 2 years old...
I hope it has 2x TB2 and Haswell. Maybe 750GB entry.
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Agreed. Its pretty dated as far as what's out now even though its not that old or slow. I really want Iris Pro graphics instead of the lousy HD4000.