Apple Expected to Report Its Best Third Quarter Ever Today

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

Here come the stockholders with their doomed sarcasm rubbish.

Great for you and the execs who already don’t need more millions, but at best, utterly meaningless to consumers. At worst, it emboldens Apple to keep up with the gouging, which is clearly detrimental to the consumer.

Meaningless for consumers? Wat? You mean it's meaningless for those consumers who have invested in Apple as part of their 401k or other investments? Meaningless for those millions invested in funds managed by Berkshire Hathaway who is one of the largest investors in Apple out there?

I bought stock when I was 18, back when it was around $3/share. You mean it's meaningless for me and the stock I've owned as a consumer?

You mean meaningless to the general consumer who could see their retirement impacted even if they don't invest directly in Apple as a large gain or hit to the market can impact everyone?

It would seem you don't know what you're talking about when you say this is meaningless to the consumers and anyone but executives.

 

[bbednarz]

Urgh, and here comes the either miss-the-point-totally or don’t-diss-my-beloved-corporation posts.

Urgh.

You've now posted essentially the same exact thing twice in 5 minutes.

 

[fairuz]

Here come the stockholders with their doomed sarcasm rubbish.

Great for you and the execs who already don’t need more millions, but at best, utterly meaningless to consumers. At worst, it emboldens Apple to keep up with the gouging, which is clearly detrimental to the consumer.

Clearly, in aggregate consumers are willing to give Apple more money than before, meaning they're happier with what Apple is producing. Under the assumption that these are luxury devices, not essentials. Go buy one of the many competing products if you don't like it.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

With all of these profits, surely Apple could afford to make it so that AppleCare starts from the date of delivery of a new MBP to a purchaser, rather than the date of order of a (build to order) new machine? That extra week could be important, and I think that it borders on unethical practice to short-change customers in this way!

You know that you can buy AppleCare any time within the first year of ownership while it's still under the factory warranty and it will go into effect at the time of purchase/after the 1 year factory warranty ends?

If it's really as huge of a deal as you're making this out to be, why not wait and buy it when the machine is delivered.

I can also nearly guarantee you that Apple will still honor the AppleCare coverage a couple days after expiration. I've seen them do it countless times.

 

[fairuz]

Facebook was due to their HUGE scandal. Most saw it coming and they failed to adjust estimates.

Apple has nothing of the same thing going on. There won't be a surprise here.

It wasn't a big deal to most people. The issue was users losing interest, not getting scared away. Twitter suffered the same problem. It's the loss of activity vs people actually deleting accounts, way more of the first thing going on.

 

[WannaGoMac]

Clearly, in aggregate consumers are willing to give Apple more money than before, meaning they're happier with what Apple is producing. Under the assumption that these are luxury devices, not essentials. Go buy one of the many competing products if you don't like it.

Unfortunately there really isnt any competition if you dont care for android and it's privacy stance

 

[Shanghaichica]

I find it interesting that this quarter has been relatively quiet. Usually we get story after story about supply chain rumors predicting weak iPhone sales. This quarter we got nothing.

Because they all had egg on their faces from trying to tell everyone that the iPhone X was a big flop for the last two quarters.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

I find it interesting that this quarter has been relatively quiet. Usually we get story after story about supply chain rumors predicting weak iPhone sales. This quarter we got nothing.

Those supply chain rumors have nearly all been unfounded. Remember how they all said that the iPhone X would be in incredibly short supply with orders backed up into 2018 and then it wasn't true at all? And the same had been rumored with the iPhone 7 release. While they did have a slight backorder, it wasn't anywhere near the months of backlog predicted.

I would guess after several rounds of completely inaccurate supply chain rumor, they don't fly so well anymore. One just has to look back at past rumors to see how off they've been. Why would we trust this one after several untrue previous supply chain rumors?

 

[fairuz]

Unfortunately there really isnt any competition if you dont care for android and it's privacy stance

Eh, at that point it's just being picky. There are two other reasonable options I forgot, either using an old iPhone (actually cheaper than switching to Android) or not using a smartphone at all.

 

[adamski23]

HOW? I just dont understand.

Apple missed OUT on the smart home market completly.. half of the computer line up has not been touched and the current ones are as much as a down payment on a car, the watch finally seems to be gaining ground and I feel as if the iPad market just keeps shrinking.

I guess I am just wrong.

Iphones….so many iphones. And attached services of course. It'd be stupid of them not to milk the cow - its probably why other products are not receiving as much focus.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Unfortunately there really isnt any competition if you dont care for android and it's privacy stance

I don’t think that many people are bothered about privacy. Obviously some are but I think Apple are doing well because people simply prefer what they have to offer.

 

[now i see it]

As Apple's wealth increases, the Mac user experience goes down the toilet. Funny how that works.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

It wasn't a big deal to most people. The issue was users losing interest, not getting scared away. Twitter suffered the same problem. It's the loss of activity vs people actually deleting accounts, way more of the first thing going on.

I'm not saying people deleted their Facebook accounts. For the most part people didn't delete their accounts, despite what some may have petitioned for.

They missed their earning estimates by a significant amount, which caused the loss of $120 billion in market value.

Twitter is a slightly different story. They posted a record $100 million profit but lost 1 million users, which is what really hurt them. Profits are good but losing 1 million users is a huge red flag for investors who want to see strong user growth.

 

[Shanghaichica]

HOW? I just dont understand.

Apple missed OUT on the smart home market completly.. half of the computer line up has not been touched and the current ones are as much as a down payment on a car, the watch finally seems to be gaining ground and I feel as if the iPad market just keeps shrinking.

I guess I am just wrong.

The tablet market is in decline but the iPad has actually shown growth for the past few quarters.

The smart speaker market is still up for grabs. The HomePod might be a slow burner like the Apple Watch. I think the HomePod will sell better in the holidays.

 

[travelsheep]

€1200 for a phone, €3000 for a entry level MacBook Pro, €100 for the yearly developer license, keeping a 30 % cut on every app sale ... no surprises here

 

[arkitect]

As Apple's wealth increases, the Mac user experience goes down the toilet. Funny how that works.

So true.

Look, I want Apple to be successful. But this level of success tends to make a company (or a person) complacent… and that is where I find myself at odds with Apple.

A huge multi billion (trillion?) company resting on its laurels… in this case the success of the iPhone.

I yearn for the Apple with iCEO Jobs at the helm. Kicking arse and reinventing themselves. Great products and leading the way…

*shrug*

 

[nvmls]

HOW? I just dont understand.

Apple missed OUT on the smart home market completly.. half of the computer line up has not been touched and the current ones are as much as a down payment on a car, the watch finally seems to be gaining ground and I feel as if the iPad market just keeps shrinking.

I guess I am just wrong.

You can always raise margins to compensate less sales.

 

[justme1]

I'm not saying people deleted their Facebook accounts. For the most part people didn't delete their accounts, despite what some may have petitioned for.

They missed their earning estimates by a significant amount, which caused the loss of $120 billion in market value.

Twitter is a slightly different story. They posted a record $100 million profit but lost 1 million users, which is what really hurt them. Profits are good but losing 1 million users is a huge red flag for investors who want to see strong user growth.

Well, I can tell you that I deleted my FB account as soon as that Cambridge Analytica shenannagin became public

 

[fairuz]

HOW? I just dont understand.

Apple missed OUT on the smart home market completly.. half of the computer line up has not been touched and the current ones are as much as a down payment on a car, the watch finally seems to be gaining ground and I feel as if the iPad market just keeps shrinking.

I guess I am just wrong.

They're doing great now, but I don't think they've set themselves up to do great later.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

Well, I can tell you that I deleted my FB account as soon as that Cambridge Analytica shenannagin became public

Good for you. The numbers show that very very few did. Like less than 100,000. It wasn't nearly as big of a deal (from that standpoint) as people made it out to be. #DeleteFacebook was a huge failure.

 

[m0sher]

A lot of early reports were wrong regarding the slump in sales would correlate to bad profits. Some editorials looking back now are so off, you wonder if their opinions mean anything and they lose credibility with me.

Seems the X may not have sold as many as previous years but was a success.

 

[WannaGoMac]

Good for you. The numbers show that very very few did. Like less than 100,000. It wasn't nearly as big of a deal (from that standpoint) as people made it out to be. #DeleteFacebook was a huge failure.

Ive noticed folks with whom I interact didn't delete their accounts, they just stop using the account much (such as deleting the app and using the web site occasionally etc.).

 

[44267547]

I find it interesting that this quarter has been relatively quiet. Usually we get story after story about supply chain rumors predicting weak iPhone sales. This quarter we got nothing.

Probably because analysts are not always correct anyways, some of its hypothetical guessing based off predictions rather than factual evidence.

 

[512ke]

They're doing great now, but I don't think they've set themselves up to do great later.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[magicschoolbus]

They're doing great now, but I don't think they've set themselves up to do great later.

I guess that’s my point.

Honestly if I were Apple I would buy Target; set up every target to be a retailed themed warehouse- Make a cheap echo like device hooked into these targets, and promise all of these targets to do same day delivery.