I haven't had a raise in 4 years. There's negligible growth in my country for the last 5 years. Only consumers can make growth and none of it is trickling down to the average man/woman. These billionaires lamenting lack of growth in multi-billion dollar companies need to take that into account. Your share prices and ******** forecasts mean very little to those who actually live in this world.
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Apple Expects First Ever Decline of iPhone Sales Next Quarter
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Apple is taking a hit w/ currency fluctuations to the tune of 15% right off the top. That's before VAT and other mandatory expenses are deducted. Also you can't directly compare
U.S. price w/.other countries, especially one that has a VAT that masks the sales tax.
My guess is that doesn't help your situation out. The 7 will still be unaffordable to many, esp for the "new" features offered. That is an honor nest consumer choice. But Apple's choice here is either keep the price the same and lower product quality to recover lost revenue on the back end or keep product quality at its current level and adjust prices as much as possible to prevent too large a gap between received revenue and actual.
Probably because no one is subsidizing the phone anymore. When faced with paying $299 vs $699, I decided to stick with my 5s.
The way I see it, we've been in an iteration phase for a while (as opposed to revolution phase). Except nerds and fashionistas that need the latest and greatest all the time, most people don't change phone every release.
Well, that's my pseudo-analysis, what do I know?
Well, that's my pseudo-analysis, what do I know?
All these points apply to the iPhone 6 as well and the sales growth with the 6 was huge.
They do have one. iPhone. Even if Apple doesn't get any new customers from now on, they'll still keep selling a new phone to us every 1-2 years for quite some time.
You have always paid the $699, you just didn't notice it because the subsidy was built into your monthly payment.
Yes saw that, perhaps the UK hasn't gotten a price readjustment, but here in Australia we have and when you include GST, iPhone price here is a bit more expensive than the US.
I guess they also need to counter the improvements that are being made to Android phones. Improve their cloud offering etc.
One thing I hate is I can't recommend iPhones to family because they cost so much.
Fake innovation can only mislead customers for so long, unfortunately
Yeah... it is sad for Samsung.
I think your 100% right here. I'm already trying to figure out how to get out of paying so much $ for a phone. I will likely cash out of my device payment plan on verizon after the first year and buy something cheaper. Paying $30/mo for 2 'phones' is not cool.
[doublepost=1453895553][/doublepost]I think your on to something. Well said.
Fake innovation can only mislead customers for so long, unfortunately
You mean to tell me that I have been mislead all these years. Shame on me for falling for this fake technology you speak of. LOL!
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I was just thinking the same thing.
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And the other thing people didn't realize, at the end of the 2 year contract they kept paying that subsidy to the cell provider.
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Read a story on this and saw that the iPad and the Mac computer sales both fell short of expectations, so with news the iPhone sales will slow, it will be interesting to see what state Apple is in this time next year.
I would expect it's share price to drop slightly overall at the very least.
I would expect it's share price to drop slightly overall at the very least.
That's a sweeping exaggeration and false. "Some" people were claiming apple needed a bigger handset, sales figures proved the 4" was doing just fine, records set each launch, Some apple fans "still" want a 4" option with the same specs as the larger units.
Supply constraints? The iPhone 6 and 6s have been the easiest models ever to get after launch day. Are you referring to apple online? Cause if you just went to your local shopping centre plenty available. I have no idea what is happening with apple online, as most new apple products can be ordered faster through 3rd party suppliers.
Okay people need to stop saying that! Apple won't go back to 4 inch! 4 inch is a downgrade firstly and no one would buy it because everyone has seen how big phone make a better user experience as opposed to an eye squinting 4 inch phone.
Nowadays, everyone says that using their 4 inch iPhone 5 is horrible too small.
I hope apple never goes back to 4 inch, in fact apple should ditch the 4.7" iPhone, simplify their lineup and just make a 5.5" iPhone.
All in all let 4 inch go and move on with the times people!
My guess is that the iPhone is just too expensive for what it offers compared to current Android.
And high ends (Android models included) are also too expensive to what medium range offers.
Apple remarkably kept kicking the can by cornering Chine and other markets and by enlarging the iPhone. They probably ran out of low hanging fruits. Now they can launch cheaper models or they can be happy with smaller market shares. As long as the ecosystems stays strong there is nothing wrong with smaller market shares.
Another issue that probably nobody notices (as almost everybody is from the same country as Apple) is that non US iPhones are allways under featured. Siri, Apple Pay, you name it....
And high ends (Android models included) are also too expensive to what medium range offers.
Apple remarkably kept kicking the can by cornering Chine and other markets and by enlarging the iPhone. They probably ran out of low hanging fruits. Now they can launch cheaper models or they can be happy with smaller market shares. As long as the ecosystems stays strong there is nothing wrong with smaller market shares.
Another issue that probably nobody notices (as almost everybody is from the same country as Apple) is that non US iPhones are allways under featured. Siri, Apple Pay, you name it....
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Who is "everyone"? Your friends, other forum members or are you just making up the decision for "everyone"?
There seem to be quite a few people who are not convinced by the move to larger phones which is probably why there is a rumoured upgrade to the 4" iPhone on the way from Apple.
not bad for something that lasted from 2007. U would think anything must decline iPhone's some stage...
The iPad did this, but it at a more rapid rate.. so, it only proves we love our iphones
Bring small screen phones back in, and its won't decline.... That happened to the tablets, unless there was another reason.
The iPad did this, but it at a more rapid rate.. so, it only proves we love our iphones
Bring small screen phones back in, and its won't decline.... That happened to the tablets, unless there was another reason.
Apple have just sold more iPhones than ever before in a quarter. They've smashed their income and profit ceilings yet again. They have also sold more macs, TVs and watches than ever before.
I don't understand how this forum is littered with critiques of the product line. If the line were at fault they would have sold LESS stock than in previous quarters and not more.
The iPhone is an amazingly useful piece of technology, I have a 5S which does everything I need very well, I do not need it to be faster or lighter or larger. Existing customers either upgrade because their model isn't fast enough or because it isn't sexy enough. There is a growing number of users like me that realise they don't need the new sexy, they just need a tool that does a job, the 5S does. Hence growth slowing down is natural and inevitable.
I don't understand how this forum is littered with critiques of the product line. If the line were at fault they would have sold LESS stock than in previous quarters and not more.
The iPhone is an amazingly useful piece of technology, I have a 5S which does everything I need very well, I do not need it to be faster or lighter or larger. Existing customers either upgrade because their model isn't fast enough or because it isn't sexy enough. There is a growing number of users like me that realise they don't need the new sexy, they just need a tool that does a job, the 5S does. Hence growth slowing down is natural and inevitable.
Could be that because contracts are finished, and people will now have the big daunting price of the iPhone seen upfront, they might stick with the old version for another year?
Can't go on posting astronomic profits and sales forever. This isn't anything to go crazy over. It's the first time ever it happens, yet to hear some of the melodrama it seems people think Apple is the new BlackBerry.
Three quarters of sustained drops, let's talk. One? I'm not concerned, not even a little.
Three quarters of sustained drops, let's talk. One? I'm not concerned, not even a little.
Because everyone owns one already, and there are many in the second hand market. Apple numbers are phenomenal and no sane man expects to keep up those high numbers , let alone growth, forever.
Not if the new features can't be used by earlier phones. Updates to iOS are optimized for the current and most recent model. Traditionally they run very poorly on older models. You see it every iOS update, it has brought my 2 model plus year old phone to a crawl. The user is eventually compelled to buy a newer phone which suddenly seems lightning fast on the new IOS.
I would bet there are a lot of iPhone 4s and 5 users who were perfectly happy with their devices - but they just can't run IOS9 efficiently. If they could have kept their old devices with in iOS released for that device, they'd probably be pretty happy.
It's a smart business decision by Apple. The last thing they want is for people to treat their iPhone like an iPad and keep them around for 3-6 years. They gotta find ways to get customers buying a new one every 1-2 years. The monster has to be fed.
No. The 6S and 6S Plus weren't supply constrained but the 6 and 6 Plus were which is why a lot of those sales got pushed into Q2 of FY15 hence making the compare tougher this year.
And yes I know I'm exaggerating a bit and of course not EVERYONE wanted a larger screen phone but Apple was getting hammered hard for it especially in 2013 when Samsung and their Next Big Thing™ was everywhere. Good god you even had Donald Trump tweeting about how dumb Apple was for not having a larger screen phone. I suppose in hindsight we can say they should have kept a flagship 4" option but I'm still not convinced the Q2 decline is due to not having a flagship 4" phone. Perhaps smartphones have become good enough and the replacement cycles are getting longer or perhaps it really is because of the strong dollar and Apple having to raise prices in some countries because of it.
Except Cook said this past quarter was the highest number of Android switchers Apple has ever had. And Apple did sell more phones in the holiday quarter than they ever have before. I don't see many mid range Android OEMs lighting up the sales and profit charts. At one point Xiaomi was supposed to be the next big thing now you hardly hear about them.
That was my intended take on it. There have to be tons of unused iPhones (and Android phones, plus the nonsmart generation before that) someplace in garbage piles and landfills, allegedly recycled.
Many of them possibly ended up being dumped in the jungles by unscrupulous "recyclers".
I am awaiting the headline:
APPLE iPhones ruin rain forrest!