0 years of AI updates for all except 15pro lineup.
And I will end this discussion here as all has been said already.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Explains iPhone 15 Pro Requirement for Apple Intelligence
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
And I will end this discussion here as all has been said already.
"Scheme?" Just do not buy if it does not add value for you.
Why do some folks continually whine about wanting Apple to raise its entry level? When the same folks whine about Apple products being too expensive?
Let Apple define the specs of its base level offerings per their market research. Just buy more RAM, more mass storage, etc. if that is what you want. And if Apple's base level offerings cost too much for you, buy something else. Easy-peasy.
Honestly, if I had it to do over again I would have kept my iPhone XR.
You keep saying lots of words that basically claim a vendor should overbuild its devices for future tech [which will cost the vendor more], raising prices.Yep, except M1 series cpu is already good enough even when it's even older just bc of RAM.Again it is not a chipset, it's the RAM. Cpu (A16) is on the contrary very good tbh. What a shame we will never use it's potential in LLM and Apple Inteligence as a whole.... it will always be limited with greedy 6GB RAM and will be capable of doing same things like low-tier iPhones of that era.... and not much more except for some camera specific tasks (but not those Apple Inteligence related
Except that no doubt you want the vendor to absorb costs of extra RAM, etc. A vendor who did that would not survive, due to generating inadequate revenue to do the research necessary to invent the future tech...
So, you don’t own a phone with Dynamic Island, but you hate it?
I thought I might not like it either, but until i read your comment, I forgot it was there. Actually, it only seemed “in my face” for about a day, then subconsciously faded into the background.
It’s honestly less obtrusive in real use than it appears to be in advertising.
My wife has a 14 pro.
Notches are lazy engineering and the dynamic island even more so. It's huge!
but they are ridiculously large and heavy. If I drop one on my face, I might loose my sight
Hence I prefer older lighter and smaller phones It's the 6gb RAM. Even an el cheapo Motorola Moto G54 comes with more RAM lol. Apple is just price gauging and ripping people off. Gruber is just a cuck for not pushing harder with the questions.
It may have already been mentioned in the thread, but, can you turn off the AI feature in iOS 18?
Regarding the “RAM issue” on iPhones
My main macbook is the basic 16” M1 Pro. But from time to time I also use my previous machines, basic model MBA 2015 4GB ram and MBP 2011 17” (with 1tb SSD and 16GB ram aftermarket upgrades that Apple under Steve Jobs supported). The 2011 MBP even today works almost perfect on everyday tasks because of the 16 gb ram. the 2015 MBA is unusable because of the 4 gb soldered RAM even if it’s half a decade newer than the 2011 MBP.
it’s obvious that in 2015 they could sell basic model MBA with 8 gigs of ram but they didn’t. same story as todays iPhone 15/Plus. this example is THE definition of “Planned obsolescence” of Tim Cook’s Apple no matter what fanboys tell. During last decade processor/chip was never the issue for a device to become unusable, even iPhone XR could run AI if it had 8gb of ram. Ram is the bottleneck for most devices and Apple knows it very well
On related news, can’t wait to see what excuses fanboys will invent to justify battery reduction on iPhone 16 Plus compared to battery king 15 Plus. Like the “ram issue”, another cheap trick to push people to pay more for the 16 pro max
My main macbook is the basic 16” M1 Pro. But from time to time I also use my previous machines, basic model MBA 2015 4GB ram and MBP 2011 17” (with 1tb SSD and 16GB ram aftermarket upgrades that Apple under Steve Jobs supported). The 2011 MBP even today works almost perfect on everyday tasks because of the 16 gb ram. the 2015 MBA is unusable because of the 4 gb soldered RAM even if it’s half a decade newer than the 2011 MBP.
it’s obvious that in 2015 they could sell basic model MBA with 8 gigs of ram but they didn’t. same story as todays iPhone 15/Plus. this example is THE definition of “Planned obsolescence” of Tim Cook’s Apple no matter what fanboys tell. During last decade processor/chip was never the issue for a device to become unusable, even iPhone XR could run AI if it had 8gb of ram. Ram is the bottleneck for most devices and Apple knows it very well
On related news, can’t wait to see what excuses fanboys will invent to justify battery reduction on iPhone 16 Plus compared to battery king 15 Plus. Like the “ram issue”, another cheap trick to push people to pay more for the 16 pro max
Last edited:
Question: did the 1 TB IPP come with 16 gbs of RAM because a terabyte requires 16 to run well or is 16 just an added bonus when you get a tb of storage. In other words, did I really future proof myself in getting a terabyte of storage and 16 gigs of ram or did I just do what was necessary?
They're been short changing people on RAM across all products for years, and they must be especially gleeful now that the lack of RAM across all products is about to launch a super-cycle thanks to AI requiring a ton of RAM.