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If his explanation of Wifi 4 is true, and the new HomePod streams lossless audio without issue, Siri responds quicker, who cares what radio they included. If in practice the new HomePod is step back from the original, then I can understand the concern, otherwise...it all feels like a bunch of people complaining about an issue that may not exist.
This. Exactly why should people care if it works the same?
 
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Who else actually supports RCS?
Nobody, they’ve just struck deals to put Google’s app on their phones which the nontechnical (but still somehow technical enough to know of, let alone have an opinion on, RCS) confuse (purposely) with “supported by carrier X.

The RCS thread has great technical detail on this if you can wade through the endless nonsense from those who have (again, purposely) misunderstood the topic.
 
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You could buy 2 HomePods and 2 HomePod minis for much less than a surround sound setup. And some people already have 1 or 2 so it’s even less to upgrade. It would just need Apple to enable the software to have left, right, left rear and right rear. Just because you don’t like the idea doesn’t mean others can’t like it.
Sure, You could buy 2 HomePods and 2 HomePod minis for much less than a surround sound setup. But then you would have 4 inappropriate speakers sounding less than ideal when you actually want a surround sound setup. Then folks like many of those here now would sound off about Apple making lousy sound.

Hopefully Apple is smart enough not "to enable the software to have left, right, left rear and right rear" as you request - - unless they really go after the concept and make it work really well, including adding a mandatory subwoofer. Personally I do like your idea, subject to the above caveats.
 
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I have 8 HomePod mini across 3 locations for HomeKit purposes. SIRI is unreliable; I also have google and Amazon devices in case my HomePods go offline because of a bad update.

For music, go with KEF or Sonos.. I just put KEF into a room connected via eARC to my TV, enjoying Sirius XM, TV; etc, with full airplay support.. not that AirPlay is reliable either
 
Nobody, they’ve just struck deals to put Google’s app on their phones which the nontechnical (but still somehow technical enough to know of, let alone have an opinion on, RCS) confuse (purposely) with “supported by carrier X.
I do not know a single person who uses it. My iOS friends use iMessage/Messages :) and those on Android use either WhatsApp, Signal and/or Telegram.
The RCS thread has great technical detail on this if you can wade through the endless nonsense from those who have (again, purposely) misunderstood the topic.
The last thing any of my Android friends would do is trust Google for messaging. Their track record is unimpressive.
 
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OGs died a bunch and Apple never recalled them or even acknowledged it. I’d imagine they re-released with a fix for that, but they won’t brag about it because it would entail admitting the original’s issues.
 
What apple really meant to say is they found a huge missing shipment from 10yrs ago in a China warehouse with wifi 4 cards and decided to put them in the speaker.
 
Who else actually supports RCS?
Everyone. Literally everyone but Apple. Granted it’s not a big list.

There is only one other phone vendor that counts. But all the network operators support it. It’s long past time for SMS to die.

Yeah it’s mostly Google calling the shots now because Apple put their fingers in their ears and said iMessage is all anyone needs.
 


Apple's VP of hardware engineering Matthew Costello and product marketing employee Alice Chan recently spoke with Men's Journal and TechCrunch about the new second-generation HomePod in wide-ranging interviews about the smart speaker.

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Apple discontinued the original full-size HomePod in March 2021 after multiple reports indicated that sales of the speaker were lackluster, but Chan told Men's Journal that Apple has since "heard more interest than ever for the acoustics of a richer larger speaker," leading the company to release another larger HomePod.

The new HomePod looks virtually identical to the original, although it is 0.2 inches shorter and has a larger edge-to-edge LED touchscreen on top. Costello told TechCrunch that Apple's teams "really love" this shape and form for the full-size HomePod and "were able to create a wonderful system within that structure."

Costello explained why the new HomePod is limited to the older Wi-Fi 4 standard, compared to Wi-Fi 6 on other modern Apple devices:He also elaborated on the inability to pair a new HomePod with an original HomePod:Apple told both media publications that the HomePod mini is "popular," but did not provide any additional details or comment on the future of the smaller speaker.

In his interview with Men's Journal, Costello provides additional details about the new HomePod's hardware and technologies, including the four-inch high-excursion woofer, tweeters, beamforming microphones, room-sensing capabilities, and more.

The new HomePod is available to pre-order for $299 and launches this Friday in the U.S., Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, the U.K., Japan, Australia, and select other countries. Check out our HomePod review roundup for a hands-on look at the speaker, which many reviewers found to have largely the same sound quality as the original.

Article Link: Apple Explains Why HomePod Was Released Again, Wi-Fi 4 Limitation, and More
I pre ordered this (arriving today), based on many techies assumptions that sound wise it won't be worse than the original, Brian Tongue did a full review & comparison yesterday, it is clear that the original is better sound wise. Apple cheaped out again and mine will be going back 😏
 
They heard requests for a new homepod, but not requests for the ability to place an icon on my screen where I want it? Or for RCS? Or any of the other things people have been begging them for loudly and publicly?

The thing about wifi 4 was an absolute non answer. Worse than a non answer. It’s a complete non sequitur.

The only thing he said that made any sense was that the first and second generation are too different for an identical sounding stereo pair, which is so obvious an explanation was not necessary.

Getting really tired of companies ignoring what people actually ask them and just say whatever the company line is with no repercussions whatsoever.
Apple listen to their own users some times.....never Android users 🤣
 
The answers to all the questions: it saved us money, but the product still sounds as good as the original.
 
Apple listen to their own users some times.....never Android users 🤣

I see the RCS bit struck a nerve with a few people. It doesn’t just affect Android users. It affects anyone who has to contact Android users and I don’t believe the vast majority of iPhone users are so snobby as to refuse to text anyone who uses Android. I want to think that most iPhone users aren’t lazy teenagers, but adults with jobs who have to talk to other adults.

Do you really want to live in a world where Apple has utter and complete control of all text messaging? SMS isn’t perfect but do you want iMessage to be the only way? Isn’t it good for there to be one viable alternative if for no other reason than to keep Apple from becoming even more stagnant?
 
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We all know it was cancelled because of the issues the OG had
I did wonder this. I doubt Apple fixed all the issues, such as...

Sound level fluctuations between the two HomePods in stereo pair

Intermittent ability to control volume using iPhone

Sound glitch approx 12 seconds into every song

Top panel getting roasting hot

Failure to buffer songs so they play smoothly

Siri
 
I see the RCS bit struck a nerve with a few people. It doesn’t just affect Android users. It affects anyone who has to contact Android users and I don’t believe the vast majority of iPhone users are so snobby as to refuse to text anyone who uses Android. I want to think that most iPhone users aren’t lazy teenagers, but adults with jobs who have to talk to other adults.

Do you really want to live in a world where Apple has utter and complete control of all text messaging? SMS isn’t perfect but do you want iMessage to be the only way? Isn’t it good for there to be one viable alternative if for no other reason than to keep Apple from becoming even more stagnant?
The rest of the world, outside the US, has already picked their apps that most messaging goes through.
 
Presonus Eris E3.5/E4.5 with bluetooth. $150-$180 a pair. They Sound way way better and they have way better stereo imaging than Homepods. They may not look as fancy but in terms of sound they blow the homepod right out of the water. They should have come up with a Homepod with stereo capability. They make you spend allot of money just for one speaker that plays back in mono. Who wants to hear their music in mono for $300 that you can’t even plug anything to it?
 
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If you’re not going to give an actual answer, just ****; say nothing. Corporate doublespeak is not an answer. It’s more like gaslighting. I have zero tolerance for this BS from any entity.
 
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Presonus Eris E3.5/E4.5 with bluetooth. $150-$180 a pair. They Sound way way better and they have way better stereo imaging than Homepods. They may not look as fancy but in terms of sound they blow the homepod right out of the water. They should have come up with a Homepod with stereo capability. They make you spend allot of money just for one speaker that plays back in mono. Who wants to hear their music in mono for $300 that you can’t even plug anything to it?
It's literally not mono. I can't believe we are even having this conversation again.
 
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The rest of the world, outside the US, has already picked their apps that most messaging goes through.

I am aware of the sordid history of text messaging. There is no single international standard. iMessage and various Facebook messengers come the closest, if you don’t count email.

It’s all a big mess. My only point is that RCS seems like an improvement to one of the best of bad options, and at this point Apple has heard the message loud and clear yet claims to not hear it, but they do claim to hear people clamoring for a new big HomePod. That may well be true but the wording is interesting.

They used the exact same phrasing in both instances (Tim Cook “Isn’t hearing from customers”) and it’s very clear that every word in these public interviews is carefully scripted.

Besides, my main complaint is about the top left centered locked Home Screen grid. I’ve yet to hear anyone seriously tell me I’m wrong about that one.
 
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