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LOL. I expect you have a windows PC in every corner of your home for when you need the right tool…. LOL Come on…
You really do not get it. You are suggesting that a $300 HomePod designed to be part of a stereo pair in acoustically very difficult scenarios is flawed because it does not do what any of scores of $50 speakers do is some kind of flaw in the HomePods. That is absurd. Like claiming 18-wheelers are flawed because they do not do a good job when driving to the market for a loaf of bread.
 
Unlikely to ever happen. The sound signature of the mini is very, very different to that of the full-size HomePod.
Have you ever seen a surround sound setup? The rear speakers are almost always smaller than the front. It would be fine. They only need to play sounds behind you to simulate the sounds being around you. If you’re made of cash then you could have 4 full size HomePods but it would be nice to be able to use minis for the rear, especially because they’re smaller and more discrete.
 
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Have you ever seen a surround sound setup? The rear speakers are almost always smaller than the front. It would be fine. They only need to play sounds behind you to simulate the sounds being around you. If you’re made of cash then you could have 4 full size HomePods but it would be nice to be able to use minis for the rear, especially because they’re smaller and more discrete.
The point is that a surround sound setup is a surround sound setup. Totally different from what HomePods are engineered to do. Folks who have an acoustically appropriate space and want a surround sound setup should buy a surround sound setup.
 
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Well yes, the two things (sound quality + price) are inseparable. If one wants one sh*t sounding smart speaker for voice comms only then a HP Mini or an Echo will suffice, and $300 is too high.

Or if one has an acoustically very good larger space then something like a pair of Sonos + subwoofer properly configured and driven can do a better value job, maybe even sound better.

But if one wants good stereo sound for music in a smallish acoustically difficult space, then a pair of full size HomePods at $300 each is by far the best choice. Good value even if self-balancing competition existed, which it does not.
I agree with everything you said.

My point is: a few years ago, not enough people were willing to spend $300 for a terrific sounding Apple speaker to make the product viable. I don't see why that would be any different now.
 
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I understand that stereo pairing with a prior generation HomePod isn’t a fully optimized experience but Apple should let the consumer decide if it’s important to them.
You still fail to get it. The point is that non-pairs will not properly stereo pair. Some consumer, no matter how ignorant, does not get to change that reality. No, Apple should not allow consumers to force Apple's $600 stereo speaker sets to sound lousy.
 
Classic Apple damage control corpo-garble is always comedic gold :)

One of my friends worked for IBM in the nineties fixing personal computers as a student job. They had a list of reasons they could use when they had managed to fix a computer and didn't exactly know what had been the problem, but now it worked. One of them was "A bit had been halved". Admittedly the other fake reasons were more plausible, maybe it was only on the list as a joke...

Anyway, it's not classic Apple, it's classic any company marketing droid garble. Apple in many ways is a very typical NA company when it comes to business practices, just more successful than most.
 
I think that decision should be left to the consumer. If they are about 98% the same to the ear then it should be more than fine for most people to pair. They could even add a little asterisk to say it may not be the perfect sound. I think the real reason is they want people to buy new ones or replace all old ones if they had an old one. At one time I had 3 original HPs but have only one now. Apple has added another barrier to me even considering buying this newer version.
Cool, it’s clearly not for you then. It’s for people that want ease of use, ease of setup, and aren’t AV tech enthusiasts.
 
Have you ever seen a surround sound setup? The rear speakers are almost always smaller than the front. It would be fine. They only need to play sounds behind you to simulate the sounds being around you. If you’re made of cash then you could have 4 full size HomePods but it would be nice to be able to use minis for the rear, especially because they’re smaller and more discrete.
I have several surround sound setups, actually, in my own home, including a dedicated home theater room. You need acoustically matching speakers. You can’t just dump any 2+ matching speakers in the rear and expect a consistent experience. This is nothing to do with the size of the speakers.
 
Feels underpowered as a home hub.

For HKSV, the HomePod has to receive up to five live video streams from security cameras and then do object, motion and face recognition on all five concurrently. It then has to encrypt and send event recordings to the cloud. Never mind playing music.

My 2021 Apple TV 4K struggles to do it with just two HKSV cameras. And it’s on Ethernet.

Okay, it’s also on the new (but withdrawn) HomeKit architecture - but don’t get me started on that!
 
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In other words a bunch of lame marketing speak that tries to obfuscate real reasons for wifi 4 and lack of stereo mating.
The wifi limitation is due to the Apple Watch chip and stereo pair should only work with 2 identical speakers or else it will sound off. Simple as that.
 
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I think that long-term quality was an issue with the original version - I've had two original home pods that died after 2-3 years and there is quite a bit on the forums about that. Frustrating to say the least for an expensive item. I have a couple of newer ones - one that Apple "gave" me as a replacement for one that died (for $200) and other one I bought when I heard they were being discontinued. I have 6 minis that so far have been problem free.
 
The explanation about using an older WiFi says nothing. The explanation needs clarification. 🤔
It‘s based on a watch processor, the S7, so that package may only support 802.11n anyways. So long as it’s completely reliable, it should be just fine for any airplay need, plus the Thread radio helps to pickup the slack as well.
 
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The point is that a surround sound setup is a surround sound setup. Totally different from what HomePods are engineered to do. Folks who have an acoustically appropriate space and want a surround sound setup should buy a surround sound setup.
You could buy 2 HomePods and 2 HomePod minis for much less than a surround sound setup. And some people already have 1 or 2 so it’s even less to upgrade. It would just need Apple to enable the software to have left, right, left rear and right rear. Just because you don’t like the idea doesn’t mean others can’t like it.
 
The bit concerning why they downgraded to wifi 4 makes no sense whatsoever, it's just marketing speak for "we're cheapening out just a little more to increase our margins by a couple of dollars".
 
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I understand why you can’t stereo pair the 1st and 2nd gen HomePods together, you wouldn’t want one speaker to sound different than the other while they’re playing the same thing. However, Wi-Fi 4 still makes 0 sense
 
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In other words a bunch of lame marketing speak that tries to obfuscate real reasons for wifi 4 and lack of stereo mating.
I'm fine with the stereo pairing answer, but the WiFi 4 response was a non-answer.
 
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