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Apple Explains Why iMessage Hasn't Expanded to Android
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You sir are wrong. BBM had nothing to do with the demise of the company. You're implying that the company failed because they didn't spread their messenger to other platforms in time. They have fallen simply because iOS and android OS were light years ahead of blackberry OS. The OS was so far behind that the love for BBM was the only thing keeping people using the platform. But eventually they dumped the platform because their entire smartphone experience doesn't revolve a messaging app.
There's a big difference here, people were using blackberry because of BBM, where as people use iOS and android because of everything else the OS has to offer not just the stock messaging app.
The point is all phones support text messages, so even if all your friends use what's app and you don't, you can still send them a text message and they'd receive it. No ones going out of business because of a messaging app, and no one in this day and age buys a particular phone because of a messaging app.
I don’t know one single person that bought Apple device because of iMessage, on the other hand, i know many people with iPhones and Apple devices that don’t use this app because its not a multi platform app.
Thats remind me BlackBerry’s BBM days, no mater how good it was it never kick’d off, even so they do have iOS and Android versions for awhile, they couldn’t compete with mainstream apps like Skype, WhatsApp, FB messenger and Line…
Omg, lol... Google "differential privacy" if you didn't catch the keynote.
In a nutshell: Apple doesn't need that info about you because they don't make 100% of their $ off of ads (or even 1%, honestly) like FB & Google.
You are correct. I don't know where these other guys get the notion that Apple will fail because they don't send their messaging app to other platforms. They seem to think people buy cellphones only because of a messaging app and not the entire smartphone and OS experience lol.
Seems many missed this. Why in the world would they make a move like releasing Message for Android? It'd give Android users one less reason to switch to iOS. "Here you go, now you don't have to give us any money."
This basically ends the thread. Messaging apps that are proprietary either die or become inconsequential. Ask Blackberry how that works out. It'd be the same thing if Apple suddenly had an iOS only social network, and it's the reason why iOS users are using Telegram or other various messaging apps and iMessage is relegated to SMS.
Ah, yes, that is certainly a meaningful and powerful "argument" right there. Realistically there's less of a reason to believe random things posted online by anonymous users, right? Kind of makes all of this futile.
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You don't when you have your phone in airplane mode and just have WiFi activated to use a WiFi connection that are fairly prevalent.You are correct, they struggle to support just thier own OS versions and screen sizes....
Guess Microsoft is the only one with skills to support thousands of permutations of hardware....
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Yes you do , you have to worry about the roaming charges associated to your phone plan. Not to mention an iMessages (SMS) you Recieve from a non apple device, or SMS when you do not have data connection
Techinically speaking, services like whatsapp that are data only are so much cost effective when abroad .
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It's a service for Apple customers. They are not after having others use it (at least so far). BBM didn't somehow die oit because it was proprietary (and it actually wasn't after some time), it simply did because BlackBerry itself went down essentially (unrelated to its messaging service).
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That's the point, they are not competing.
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There is a reason Apple users pay more for their iPhones — because they don't have to deal with a stupid app like WhatsApp, from a company with no working business model, which was always going to be sold to Facebook, who was always going to share your private communication with its advertising partners. And then you have to jump through flaming hoops to get your data back.
The need to monetize on free software from third party vendors has ruined Windows and will ultimately ruin Android. I will always prefer Apple's stock apps, if I can somehow cope with their limitations. Don't be fooled by a huge and rising market share. Eat feces, millions of flies can't be wrong.
Flies need to wake up.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nded-to-android.1978150/page-10#post-23027117Did you read original post? See, all companies use user data for analytical purposes, the difference is when apple says they don't collect data about you....it actually means they collect data, but it's not associated to you as an individual, very important point for markerting purposes. Some people believe that means apple does not collect user data....naive. Everytime you visit thier site, product pages etc, you are a statistic , just cause apple is not associating it to joe blow does not mean it's not collecting data.
As you have an appleid, think how much user data is collected on you just from from using the AppStore and iTunes
In this case apple is collecting all the data from our use of iMessage, we are just ids in the system, now cross reference an appleid used in iMessage to where personal info is stored, run a few SQL, boom, apple can show who you have messaged, who has messaged you , when , where ......user data, but hey they said they don't store any right...
Where we work, we don't collect user data either.....but we know everyone that has visited our sites from all around the world, and the reason we can brag that we do not collect data about you, is cause you are an ID , not associated to an actual person . Replace the analytics Id with John smith, and bam....we know everything about your behaviour on our sites, we can even predict when our users have lunchtimes....browsing behaviours etc, or as per example you replied to, when someone got pregnant.
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Same here. Not cause it's the best, but cause it's cross platform, and was easier for everyone to jump on board.
Recently we have been using slack
I can't use iMessage at all because most of my friends rely on WhatsApp
No offense but your friends sound like scumbags.
Wrong. Statistics have shown that iMessage is the most used app on the iPhone.
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This makes zero sense. People use iMessage because it's objectively superior to SMS.
it is their go to feature. its the only thing i couldnt get used to on android. knowing that your message is delivered and read are amazing features. comprehend it.
Again, makes no sense. The beauty of iMessage is that it uncomplicates the messaging experience by seamlessly switching between data and SMS. This is something that Google hasn't been able to accomplish in seven attempts. Your personal preferences on how to message is by no means an indictment against the efficacy of iMessage.
I've never considered this an app. Its just a feature that you turn on to enhance text messaging. Its messaging, why criticize it? Just use it, text messaging has been around for 15 years now.
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Exactly. Why wouldnt someone want to send texts? are there even plans that dont include unlimted messaging these days?
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Exactly. Why wouldnt someone want to send texts? are there even plans that dont include unlimted messaging these days?
People spend more time texting than just about every other function on a smartphone, so why would you not make your messaging app as good as it can be? How is force quit for multiple apps a more important feature than texting?
No, you're misunderstanding both what I said and what happened with Blackberry.
Their OS and Hardware were falling horribly behind iOS and Android, but they had a had a hardcore following of dedicated users, many of whom were very strongly tied to BBM. They thought users in their BBM ecosystem would always stick with them because switching and losing access to the ecosystem was too much inconvenience. And we all know how that worked out for Blackberry.
Now iPhones are laughably behind, even using the same outdated, crappy screen tech into last 2017 at least. Go into a store and hold a galaxy S7 edge next to an iPhone 6s plus. The difference in the hardware is stunning. The Galaxy screen is magnificent next to the dull iPhone screen, the tiny bezels on the Galaxy make the iPhone look like a relic from a past decade. 16 Gig entry level iPhone. Really? in 2016.
Then on the software side, about the only difference in functionality between iOS 9 and iOS 6 is that 9 has more bloatware and more bugs. Android is lightyears beyond iOS, widgets and tiles let you set up a vey tidy and functional interface on Android. Apple still gives you a simple app launcher from 2007.
But just like blackberry before it, Apple thinks their existing customers will keep buying because they're stuck in the ecosystem. And iMessage will keep them in the ecosystem. And just like blackberry, they'll see that with a market share about 13%, their proprietary message system is just useless because not enough other people use it for the people with iPhones to bother.
Well, I certainly get annoyed an my Android toting friends for having Android when I can't send reach them by iMessage. Whether the blame is on Apple for not porting iMessage to Android or on my friends for buying Android phones, I haven't quite decided.
Why can't you just send a normal SMS to people using android? Everyone is acting like SMS is this horrible thing yet we all use it. I don't see why you would need to use Whatsapp to message your friends on android. Just send it as an SMS. iMessage does it automatically for you anyway. Also, does any phone manufacturer default messages app support cross-platform?
Purely rhetorical and unrealistic statements like iOS 9 is basically iOS 6 with more bloatware and bugs are what completely undermines much of anything else that might have been said (even if there was something to any of it to begin with).
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Because a regular SMS that has been in use for years and years now even befor smartphones were around can't be sent to them somehow? Or another messaging service can't be used even?
iMessage processes messages to other systems (SMS). That isn't a hindrance. Simply because they isolate the core function to their hardware makes business sense. Open platforms are NOT always better, simply more widespread.
For the future, making nonsensical statements without any factual basis is a terrible way to advance an argument.