What's incompatible about it with Android???!
Lol, I'm not certain you're grasping the definition of that word. Read receipts don't work; so it's "incompatible"?
Unsure what you think you're trying to say...
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Apple Explains Why iMessage Hasn't Expanded to Android
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What's incompatible about it with Android???!
Lol, I'm not certain you're grasping the definition of that word. Read receipts don't work; so it's "incompatible"?
Unsure what you think you're trying to say...
Tell me you're not Ireland on AI complaining about the decision. If so, your selfish needs to cross-talk with Android friends and family is your problem, not Apple's.
I view this as posting just one word. arrogant or lazy , not sure. One word replies are against forum rules btw.
And even reading your reply from the lazy link, it means nothing.
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Let me get this straight, your suggestion to people travelling overseas, as we call it roaming, is to put thier phones into airplane mode? And communicate between free wifi spots? Are you serious ? Why own an iPhone? Take a laptop...or iPad
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I think you will find by definition of selfish, it's expecting everyone to own an iPhone device so you can iMessage. People do not choose thier friends, family and colleuges based on phone supplier. It's arrogance to assume everyone can afford an apple device, and that apple devices are sold everywhere around the world.
You asked if I followed the conversation and commented more about unrelated things. I was already asked that before and replied to it, thus the simple link to the already existing reply. Lazy is ignoring what was already addressed and discussed and pretending that it wasn't and calling that lazy.
As for brining up the use of iMessage while traveling. It was suggested as another alternative of how it can be useful without a phone plan. Which the poster that I originally replied to perfectly understood and agreed with. What you bring up is outside of the context of that discussion (as it's not even related to using it without a phone plan), so perhaps actually following the conversation would help, as you seem to keep on suggestiong for others to do?
Other than being a factor in selling more Apple devices, how exactly does iMessage on Android make business sense for Apple?
I'm with you on the point they would have to design for multiple interfaces, but the "poor Apple programer" lol? Apple is consistently at the top of market value charts and has tons of cash, they could easily accomplish this if they wanted to.
So, all this time I thought that I was using Messages to communicate with friends and family who use Android devices, I really wasn't? It was all an elaborate scam by Apple to keep me on the reservation?
Thankfully, now my eyes are opened!
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Apple is not making it difficult for you. You are making it difficult for yourself. Why not choose one platform and stick with it. Gives you less headaches.
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Why don't you build one.
I thought that was what the payments via messenger feature would somehow doonce released...give apple a cut from the transaction...but as you can't pay friends via iMessage yet, why get ahead of yourself? I bet the Android version does become available someday after payments through iMessage becomes proven.
Eh, too much messing around with APIs and reverse-engineering, and I don't have time. It's probably the most tedious project someone could do. Facebook used to use Jabber, and I had Messages set up to fall back to Facebook, which was really nice.
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So did I. What's the irony?
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Not necessarily chatbots:
They're talking about using massive data to train some machine learning algorithm. This includes chatbots but also other stuff where they'd want a large data set of conversations. Analytics like how many times someone uses the app and how many messages are sent is different from the data you'd need to train an AI. The chatbot cannot learn just from being included in conversations where people explicitly include it, and the engineer suggests they're collecting the data right now.
IDK what WhatsApp does, never seen anyone use that in my life. But, in general, end-to-end encryption is moot if you're running a closed-source client and/or aren't handling the key exchange yourself. I wouldn't assume these platforms are secure.
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i dont understand this. iMessages sends a text when iMessage isnt available.
Nobody is arguing that iMessage is the sole reason that someone will buy and iPhone. Except, perhaps, those who are looking for a lazy way to set up a strawman argument.
Of which there seem to be a surfeit today.
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{briefly glances to the side at the Android fans}
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13% marketshare platform isn't trying to dictate ... so rainbows and unicorns for everyone!!
I'll bet there are people who have no preference except that based on iMessage. I'll bet my not-so-technically-inclined family relatives are like that.
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It's a PitA. You can't send SMS from a PC or iPad unless you set up forwarding, which doesn't always work. You need cell service, which I don't have anywhere in my house. An entire group chat falls back to SMS once you add an Android user, and Android is so darn stupid that it doesn't even handle the SMS group chat properly, receiving every message as if it's in a one-on-one conversation or doing other weird things.
I get people buying Android phones if they want a new phone for cheap or want some Android-specific features, but I have a few friends who just want to be "special," and everyone just gets annoyed by them.
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This is the entire beauty of iMessage. This is why it's so popular, and why Google is on their seventh messenger app...iPhone users can communicate seamlessly with pretty much anybody.
Meh..I don't think messages take up that much data to be noticeable, unless you're sending videos every message. At least it's not what kills your data like Youtube, games, and persistent background data fetching. With WIFI being so prevalent nowadays, you'd still be protected from data caps.
It depends on what the AI is being trained for.
Sure it can.
Doesn't sound like that to me. Anyway, I really doubt that Apple is planning on intercepting users' messages and running any kind of machine learning on their content, since that would obviously make a mockery of the end-to-end encryption that they have boasted about.
Whatsapp uses Moxie Marlinspike's Signal protocol, which is widely considered secure. Apple's iMessage lacks a method for users to verify the keys, so Apple could in theory swap out keys and run a man-in-the-middle attack. However, I doubt they would do that, since it is possible to detect and it would severely damage their reputation if they were caught.
For me, I prefer messaging apps like iMessage and WhatsApp over SMS mostly when I travel. It's good to know that I can still get in touch with someone even over a plane's wifi and actually get indication that the message was properly delivered. SMS can be flaky when roaming - I've either had messages not get delivered or have the recipient receive 3 or more copies of the same message.
I communicate using iMessage with people who don't have iPhones all the time. I have no idea what kind of phone the man who cuts my yard has but we've always been able to communicate.
True.
However, they are going to lose more than ever this year. Android is a fine OS and you don't feel as ripped off buying an Android device these days. Apple's RAM bogarting, over the years, showed me where the company was going. It's been downhill for years now.
Mac's are underpowered and too much of a fashion statement. They choose form over function now. Except with the Apple Watch, ironically. What an ugly device.
I, for one, am kind of excited to see the new galaxy note.
Apple may be getting new customers but they are losing a lot of their faithful base. You know, the ones that got them to where they are today. Cook doesn't care. Not one bit.
Is there a Pepsi executive at the helm
"…you don't feel as ripped off buying an Android device these days."
So, you're still feeling ripped off but at a tolerable level. What is a tolerable level of being ripped off by an Android device?
