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App Switching is not Multitasking. If that's what you think multitasking is, then you have no reason to complain because that's what iPad OS has had for a while. But really Multitasking is having more than one app running tasks simultaneously, and that's what Stage Manager does.

Even considering that, Apps nowadays can do things in the background, although in a restricted way.
So, the apps that are not showing on your desktop, but are doing things in your background, are not multitasking?

Also, even more relevant is thejadedmonkey's example with ShrinkDinks, which is the same feature, but with Intel hardware 16 years ago. So you are telling me Apple can't pull the exact same feature now on anything less than the M1 iPad?
 
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IMHO, the Internet has made everyone a fanboy. And that is destructive for companies themselves. They can never change and actually improve if we say EVERYTHING they do is ok. I like Apple, but just liking them doesn't give them a greencard to justify every stupid measure they take. If they never listen to feedback, they'll always release the same products and keep making the same mistakes.

I want them to do BETTER, because I believe they are better than that.

This particular criticism does not apply just to Apple, by the way, but to the Internet as a whole. Companies are not gods, people. It doesn't benefit them or we users if we treat them this way.
 
I think Apple has dropped the ball with this feature. It is so close to being something amazing and extremely functional. When plugged into an external display why can't we run a full MacOS like any other Apple computer? Unplug from the monitor and back to running in iPadOS mode. You can already use a keyboard and mouse, this stage manager is like a tease of what is so close to being something really usable. Regarding the hardware, I don't buy that stage manager is just too much for anything but an M1, just more Apple being Apple.
That will be reserved for M2 iPad Pros running iPadOS 17, of course. :)
 
Also, if mere better multi window support needs a powerful chip like M1 to pull it off, one has to question how Apple iPadOS utilises resources in the background. Pentium MMX three decades ago with 64MB of RAM would support Windows 95 multitasking just fine. Smh only M1 can support multi-windows on iPadOS, which is already a stripped down version of macOS according to Apple. Financial incentive is their first reason removing support on older iPads.

Yes, those modern apps uses way more RAM Than before, but that’s a bad programming practice of developing bloated mess Dragging down the performance. Which leads me wonder again how they are using the hardware resources.

Programmers are lazy. Everything uses a lot of memory today. This forum webpage is using 250Mb of RAM.

Also, by tradition, it was acceptable for Windows and Macs to become slower if you overextended the memory by running too many applications at the same time.

Apple designs the iPad to make it almost impossible for the user and the programmer (through public apps) to make the iPad slow and non-responsive even if they wanted to. This requires Apple to put much more limitations in iPad OS.
 
400 million people aren’t going to upgrade their iPads for a superfluous feature, BUT, we can take a look at sales next year to see if this gets 400 million folks to upgrade. I doubt it, but I’m willing to give your “cajole existing owners” idea a run.

I’m thinking that a few million with old devices will get a new one that just so happens to have the feature and millions who’ve never owned an iPad before will buy their first iPad leading to roughly 40 million in sales, most of which won’t be able to use the new feature either. Check back next year!

Sure, but nothing you’ve said disproves anything I’ve opined, which makes your jaunty riposte kinda pointless 👍
 
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Even considering that, Apps nowadays can do things in the background, although in a restricted way.
So, the apps that are not showing on your desktop, but are doing things in your background, are not multitasking?
Small number of specific background processes is not the full multi-tasking that the M1's get. iOS has been doing the former for over ten years.
Also, even more relevant is thejadedmonkey's example with ShrinkDinks, which is the same feature, but with Intel hardware 16 years ago. So you are telling me Apple can't pull the exact same feature now on anything less than the M1 iPad?
I'm not telling you anything because I wasn't involved in the project and have no idea about how well it did what it did and why it could or could not work on the iPad. Macs back then had preemptive multitasking, but non-M1 iPads still do not.

Considering you thought full multi-tasking was the same as single-task app-switching, there's probably more to it than you realize.
 
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The best value for your money is always the base iPad with the Homebutton and minimum Storage. Everything else is a classical ripoff and marketing gimmick. That's why they don't sell well and they are desperately in need of such gimmicky marketing tactics.
 
Considering that Samsung's DeX offers more advanced desktop-like functionality on hardware LESS capable than the M1 iPads, I think Apple's statement was a bit weak. Because of the smartphone nature of iPad OS, I would not be surprised to learn that to implement stage manager on less-capable hardware would be a challenge (from a technical standpoint).

Then there's the market positioning and differentiating of the M1 iPads in relation to the others. M1-exclusive features like Stage Manager help justify the added cost of those iPad models.

Today's outrage about the lack of Stage Manager on most iPad models is the result of FOMO. Those complaining today will ensure that their next iPad contains the M1 (or higher) chip. They are NOT going to miss out again. ;) Well played Apple.
 
So you like somebody else deciding what software you are allowed to run and which not?
Why don't you move to China or some other place where your life is micromanaged.
I could run torrent software on my Mac, but don't, so why would I care about running them on my iPad?
 
I'm not telling you anything because I wasn't involved in the project and have no idea about how well it did what it did and why it could or could not work on the iPad. Macs back then had preemptive multitasking, but non-M1 iPads still do not.

Windows 95 had preemptive multitasking. What stops Apple from scaling down their multitasking system on older iPads, which are much faster than any toaster that can run Windows 95?

I might not have a deep, technical understanding of multitasking like a system programmer. But I'm not stupid enough to believe it can't be done on a device that is much faster than a 90s computer. And I'm not alone here ShrinkDinks is proof it could at least be scaled down.
 
From a DeX review.
Samsung DeX is limited to general office productivity applications such as word processing, emailing, and web browsing. Heavier tasks to include making a presentation, image editing, graphics, design, or video editing are impossible due to the lack of relevant Android apps and necessary optimization.
This is an uninformed review



 
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Today's outrage about the lack of Stage Manager on most iPad models is the result of FOMO. Those complaining today will ensure that their next iPad contains the M1 (or higher) chip. They are NOT going to miss out again. ;) Well played Apple.

Apple's miscalculation is that users will sell their 2018 iPad and buy an M1 iPad just to run 2-3 windows at the same time. Guess what: they won't. Processing power is a compelling reason; storage is a compelling reason. Even the camera is a more compelling reason.

But a feature that many apps aren't even aware of yet (or ever)? Not at all.
 
The best value for your money is always the base iPad with the Homebutton and minimum Storage. Everything else is a classical ripoff and marketing gimmick. That's why they don't sell well and they are desperately in need of such gimmicky marketing tactics.
Funny, I’ve found that to be viscerally accurate with my latest base-model wifi-only 64 GB iPad. Although additional (and frankly overpriced) bells and whistles would be nice to have, I have never needed to torture myself with what-ifs concerning spending too much money. I will be sticking with base models as long as I have an iPad.
 
Yeah I get it. There is no beach ball or hour glass on iPad so if something has lag you end up getting pissed off and assuming you need to tap over and over again because it isn’t detecting your input
 
IMHO, the Internet has made everyone a fanboy. And that is destructive for companies themselves. They can never change and actually improve if we say EVERYTHING they do is ok. I like Apple, but just liking them doesn't give them a greencard to justify every stupid measure they take. If they never listen to feedback, they'll always release the same products and keep making the same mistakes.
I mean… buy a company’s products if you like them. Don’t buy a company’s products if you don’t have always worked well. However, you can’t be disappointed if 40 million people a year disagree with you, right? That’s just how the world works.
 
Apple's miscalculation is that users will sell their 2018 iPad and buy an M1 iPad just to run 2-3 windows at the same time. Guess what: they won't. Processing power is a compelling reason; storage is a compelling reason. Even the camera is a more compelling reason.

But a feature that many apps aren't even aware of yet (or ever)? Not at all.
FOMO is emotional, not rational. :)
 
Sure, but nothing you’ve said disproves anything I’ve opined, which makes your jaunty riposte kinda pointless 👍
You’re right, it doesn’t disprove anything. What CAN disprove it is looking into the sales of iPads this year that are driven by Apple’s strong cajoling of their users. If we only see the expected roughly 40 million iPads sold this year (and nowhere near 400 million), then that kinda shoots a hole in “cajoling customers works!” theory. Because, it won’t have worked.

ESPECIALLY if the majority of those iPads can’t even use the feature that Apple included ONLY as a means to cajole their users. :)
 
Today's outrage about the lack of Stage Manager on most iPad models is the result of FOMO. Those complaining today will ensure that their next iPad contains the M1 (or higher) chip. They are NOT going to miss out again. ;) Well played Apple.
Wait, so if someone upgrades to an iPad Air or iPad Pro in a couple of years, you think they will choose an M# chip because of FOMO instead of the fact that Apple only offers those with an M chip? The Mini's screen is too small for Stage Manager and it inly has 4GB RAM, but the Mini-7 will likely get an M1, and the iPad-9 has no USB-C for external displays only has 3GB RAM.
 
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Today's outrage about the lack of Stage Manager on most iPad models is the result of FOMO. Those complaining today will ensure that their next iPad contains the M1 (or higher) chip. They are NOT going to miss out again. ;) Well played Apple.
The big question is Stage Manager on 12.9" with extra storage M1 iPad Pro that big a draw to buy compared to just acquiring a 13.6" M2 MBA now?
 
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