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Say that your dinnertable can juice your phone. Or the bathroom sink, the nighttable, the mobilephone compartment on your car.

Boom - your mind has been blown.. :cool:

No, it has not... I won't go changing furniture and the sink to charge a device when a 5-20 cable can do the job.

The car, on the other hand, I could see, but I wouldn't change it until I needed to... Not for charging a device.

Plus, there would need to be some kind of standard... I wouldn't want a "made for iPhone" dinner table when I have guests that use Android.
 
They will need it for their watch :)

Or the iWatch? Then there's no need for a relatively bulky port in the side of the watch to allow it to charge.

Maybe this tech isn't for the iPhone at all.

Yep, wireless charging, NFC, even biometric authentication is all useful as well for a watch.

But once you have multiple devices that need it, you may as well have a device that charges all of them.
I would like to throw my watch, key-fob, nano, etc ,, (maybe even a smartphone) all on a charging pad for the night to have it recharged by morning.

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Battery life is great for the iphone. The simplest thing to do is to reset all settings when you restore from an update of a previous phone . My iphone 5 was giving poor battery life when I had restored from my previous phone (iphone 4). All I did was to reset all settings, let the battery drain down to 0 once and charged it again. Since then battery life has been fantastic.. the best of any smartphone that I have owned (including non apple devices). I last charged my phone yesterday morning at 800 AM and its at 15% at 700PM on the next day (with 3G and bluetooth on and off)




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Honestly don't bother. They should focus on longer battery life.
 
I hope that Apple does NOT move to wireless charging. It is much less efficient than wired charging and will thus waste energy as well as polluting our environment more. I don't see any improvements from it. We don't need this.

Exactly. This is, for me, the number one argument against wireless charging. It's extremely wastefull. Because a) it's very inefficient, and b) that charger that's plugged in 24/7 will also use a little bit of power 24/7.

Stuff like this really needs to have priority over anything else. Is wireless charging handy? Sure it is, but it's an environmental no go unless they get that stuff up to 100% efficiency. Which I don't think is possible with inductive charging or any other wireless tech.
We really need to start thinking more about ecological issues in technology than our own lazyness.

The argument that plugging in causes wear and tear to connectors and electrical outlets is one that really cracks me up. By the time your connector gets worn out you've already bought 10 newer devices. Nor have I ever seen a worn out electrical outlet. This is really the epitome of first world problems. :p
 
Wow, Schiller proves either his stupidity or lack of believable non-jelousy as he comments 'wireless charging systems still have to be plugged into the wall, so it’s not clear how much convenience they add'

For Phil and everyone else on here who cant see the benefits, let me explain it like this: You take your phone out your pocket, you put in down, it charges. You pick it up, you walk off, its fully charged.

Did you notice that ... no messing around looking for a charging cable, no plugging it in, no unplugging it when you leave.

If people cant see the benefit of that (whether they choose to use it or not) then they're idiots!!!!

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Why on earth does anyone care about wireless charging?

To save having wires dangling from sockets in the wall or having to scrabble around looking for a charger .... and to then save plugging cables in and out of your phone.
 
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I wouldn't mind a wireless charger but I wouldn't want to pay extra for it so clearly I would never own one anyway as I am sure they wouldn't include it. What I really want them to do is get ride of the home button and just go to pure touch controls but obviously they won't do that on the 5s and in fact if they actually put a fingerprint sensor in the button (useless imo) then they may never be able to get ride of the button as the fingerprint sensor would always need to be there and would take up that valuable space. Regardless the main thing that they really need is to revamp iOS but the only problem with that is unless they make it 5S exclusive it may not sell as many devices as hardware updates would
 
Disadvantages of wireless charging

  • Can't use (hold) the phone when charging
  • Charging is slower
  • Charging is less efficient
  • Costs money to implement. I would rather have other features in its place

1. Dur ... obviously!
2. So what if you're charging all day and/or night
3. And what exactly is 'less efficient' charging?
4. Not a lot more
 
Wireless charging benefits: You can plop instead of plug.

Not sure I see this technology improving things that much.
 
To me, wireless charging is a pretty good way to go, especially if they make one for cars. There is a huge value to not having to plug-in or mess around the cable when I pick the phone up.

However, it is bad that, again, Apple will not use the industry standard and limit their customer's choice just to line their pockets. For a change, it would be nice to have the same technology that charges the millions of other phones on the market. Nokia and Samsung are using Qi and between them they cover most of the cell phone market, meaning that there will be many accessories and applications for the Qi tech. If Apple goes their own route, Apple users will probably have to pay a premium price for wireless charging accessories and most wireless charging stations at airports, etc won't work with Apple products.
 
1. Dur ... obviously!
2. So what if you're charging all day and/or night
3. And what exactly is 'less efficient' charging?
4. Not a lot more

Less efficient charging means that wireless charging takes more power to give the same charge that a wired charge can.

I don't think this is much of an issue for mobile phone charging since an entire year of phone charging costs you about $.50. Wireless is still less efficient than your USB cord.
 
Yep, because then you'd only need to pack 7 wireless induction stations....right?

Hahaha, yeah, people seem to think wireless charging means accessoryless charging. Like several people have pointed out, you STILL have to make a power connection (possibly with a brick vs. a smaller USB cable), and have the pads/plates.

A QuietPC C2 (or equivalent) will give you 4 USB ports in a fairly small package, and trivial additional space by packing up 4 cables (which can also be used to transfer, tether, and charge from your computer).

I'd have to see the implementation, and would want it as a charging option, not the only method.
 
1. Dur ... obviously!
2. So what if you're charging all day and/or night
3. And what exactly is 'less efficient' charging?
4. Not a lot more

1. With a cable you can hold the phone, with this you can't, therefore it's a disadvantage
2. That's fine, but most people would like it to charge fast regardless of where you are/what you're doing.
3. Less efficient means only around 70% of the power input is transferred to the battery. The rest is wasted energy and is dissipated by heat.
4. Still costs more for something that is inferior.


I see from your past posts you've just bought a Lumia 620 which has wireless charging, so now you are desperately trying to justify and defend your purchase at any given point with arguments that are flawed and biased.

Fanboyism in it's purest form, right there.
 
Not really.

Wireless charging is currently a step backwards from what we already have, it's slower, less efficient, less convenient and more expensive - so it's more like going from living in a cave back to living in trees again.

How exactly is is less convenient? I won't comment on the others cos I don't know the statistics (but I fear you don't either) but wireless charging is WAY more convenient than wired charging. I literally cannot think of a way that it is less convenient.

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But hope it can beome a mature technology as NFC in the future.

lol.

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Induction charging is not wireless charging.

So much misinformation in this thread.

Does it use a wire that is plugged into the phone? No? Ergo, it uses no wires. I.e. it's wireless.

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I see from your past posts you've just bought a Lumia 620 which has wireless charging, so now you are desperately trying to justify and defend your purchase at any given point with arguments that are flawed and biased.

Fanboyism in it's purest form, right there.

Or, perhaps, he genuinely enjoys a technology and is explaining why he finds it beneficial and the negatives to be moot? :eek::eek::eek: But that can't actually be the case right? He has to be a fanboy just because he can't agree with your Lordship?
 
How exactly is is less convenient? I won't comment on the others cos I don't know the statistics (but I fear you don't either) but wireless charging is WAY more convenient than wired charging. I literally cannot think of a way that it is less convenient.

As the phone has to sit on a block or pad, you can't pick it up to use it when charging. With wired charging you are free to pick up and use the phone as you wish. It's also slower, meaning charging times are increased - another inconvenience.
 
Unless it is true wireless...no special pad needed to place a phone on... I dont really see the point. If there could be something like WiFi for charging.... that would be a true breakthrough.
 
Apple's standard approach,

- Deny that they are interested in any feature the mainstream competitors already use.
- A year later, introduce the same feature, and call it revolutionary.

For example, you saw this with the screen size. Soon you'll get wireless charging and NFC. Both have Apple dismissed interest in, yet both will arrive, about 2-3 years after the competition. With proprietary technology, of course.

Spot on. But you forgot something...

Around the time that those features are gaining real traction with mainstream competitors, Apple will be about to roll out an annual or semi-annual update to hardware that could incorporate those features. Some rumors will fly that they will include such features; others say they won't.

Then Apple will launch without those features and some of us hoping for them will post the gripe, wishing they were there. Of course, for each such post, there will be about 10 rebuttals from the "Apple knows all" cheerleaders calling the feature stupid, we're stupid for wishing it was there, "pointless", "99% of the people wouldn't use it", "until support for the feature is everywhere, there's no point in building it in", "there's no space inside the <Apple device> to include such a feature", etc (the usual logic and illogic to try to rationalize Apple's decisions).

If those wanting the feature come back again, they're usually met with "don't like it, don't buy it", "Being the biggest company in the world means that Apple does know best", more 99%-type arguments, etc.

Cue the introduction of brand new subjective speculation to combat individual consumer wishes like: "...but who would want that if it doubled the weight or thickness?" or "...but why would we want that if it might burn through the battery much faster?" and so on (most of which are usually just invented negatives to imply that including such features would add significant tangible negatives... backed by nothing of course). Coming back with reality comments like "why isn't <competitor product with those features> twice as heavy or twice as thick?" will simply result in a quick change of subject or bashing other features of the referenced competitor product to imply it's not apples-to-apples.

Then, flash forward to when Apple finally gets around to implementing the feature and some of these very same people will gush about the greatness of the feature, "shut up and take my money", "I can't believe how great this is", etc.

Then flash forward about 2+ more years and we'll remember that Apple invented the feature. Show evidence that it was invented and/or implemented by others earlier than Apple's introduction and we'll bash those others for not doing it right because only Apple can do anything Apple does right.

I've seen this over and over and over again:
  • An iSight camera in iPad 1 made absolutely no sense until Apple rolled out a Facetime camera in iPad 2 and then it was HUGE
  • 1080p in AppleTV 1 & 2 made no sense ("it would crash the Internet", "until the entire country has upgraded broadband technology", "the chart", and my favorite "I can't see the difference (so you can't either)", etc)... until Apple rolled out the "3" with 1080p and then it made all the sense in the world (where'd all those "720p is good enough" people go?)
  • Any iPhone screen size other than 3.5" made no sense because that size was perfect per the Lord Jobs himself... and then...
  • An iPad screen smaller than the perfect size of 9.7" made no sense... and then...
  • "Who wants to watch video on an iPod?"
  • Etc
 
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Yep, because then you'd only need to pack 7 wireless induction stations....right?

Or just one larger mat. :rolleyes:

God, the ignorance of Apple fans is absurd. Wait until Apple introduces their own non-standard inductive charging. Just about everyone here will want one.
 
I've used an Android phone with built in wireless charging (Fujitsu ARROWS X F-10D) for a couple of days and while it's nice not to have to plug the charger in, there's a couple of issues with this technology which makes it not worth the trouble.

First, you need to carry the wireless charging pad and its power supply around instead of just a small USB cable. Secondly, the phone needs to be lying flat on the charger to charge, which means that you can't use it to make calls or take pictures while charging. Third, it takes more time to charge than regular wired charging.
Unless Apple is able to solve these problems, wireless charging is nothing more than a useless gimmick.

like Siri!
 
Disadvantages of wireless charging

  • Can't use (hold) the phone when charging
  • Charging is slower
  • Charging is less efficient
  • Costs money to implement. I would rather have other features in its place

  • Increases the weight of the phone
  • Increases the dimensions of the phone
  • Without a "wired charging" option, it requires you pack a much larger charger on trips.
 
Not sure I want to pay for a wireless charger simply so I can set the phone on a pad.

Need to some other features to make it work the money IMO
 
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