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Apple Extending Facebook Integration to iPhone OS?

VenusianSky said:
Really? This is the same as Facebook to you. :confused:

I don't post pictures of myself and friends here and I don't carry on personal conversations with people that are personal to me. Actually, I don't believe any of my friends even visit these forums. I come here to discuss Apple products. I really don't care that the Macrumor operators have access to such discussions. The information value of this site is greater than that.
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Its still a socal netowrk. There are different ways to be socal...
 
What this means for the news:
OMG FACEBOOK INSIDE IPHONE? NOW THEYLL ALWAYS KNOW WHERE I AM FOREVER. PRIVACY. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.
*EXPLOSION*
 
kirky29 said:
If you don't have Facebook then it wont effect you, will it? If you do have Facebook but don't want it on the iPhone OS. Don't sign in...... Simple.

Having things built-in in my eyes is better than having to load an app for syncing contact pictures etc etc.

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Why?
What is wrong with having an app rather than a FB logo stuck on the screen.
And why is Apple investing time and effort on this crap?
How long do you think FB is going to last?
I know posters are saying...well if you don't have it no foul...or turn it off...or whatever. but the fact is that if Apple keeps up this dictatorial you gotta have this and do it this way attitude, rightly or not, people are gonna be turned off the product.
I know that integration with this particular site worries me. They are notoriously lax with their privacy issues and in this day an age that is becoming a serious problem.
This partnership is so unnecessary :(
 
angevil said:
NO!!! Nooooooo.....nooooooooooooo

FB is evil.



Will it know when I am taking a dump so everybody can leave me alone at least in those moments?? Or it will also make pics of the crap I make so everybody can comment on its shape, density and color? How many ppl will ″like″ it?
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Apple have thought about this obviously and that's why they want to help fakebook by including a nice 5mp camera in the next phone.
 
JediZenMaster said:
This is pretty cool i think facebook is here to stay and if they ever offer an IPO some people are going to be very rich.

It's to the point where i went on a job interview and the Recruiter handed me his Biz card and it had his facebook and twitter page listed on it.
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If I saw that I'd be very concerned about the credibility of the person I was dealing with.
 
I am a FB user who is about to dump the service.
It has become annoying and way too ubiquitous for my particular liking.
Just remember Facebook fanatics, if you do try to delete your account and you do it through the account>delete feature it actually doesn't delete your account. It just puts it in a temporary hold state. You actually have to do a pretty much hidden work around to hard delete your Facebook account.
 
I too despise Facebook and their shady privacy issues that change all too often. I've ditched the service, and finally convinced my partner and sister to cancel as well.

Facebook doesn't make it easy to delete your account either as some here have mentioned. Here's a very helpful how-to: http://bit.ly/adHKk1
 
Mal said:
Wow, what a bunch of haters! How does this affect you if you don't use Facebook? Please, tell me. I want to know why you're so incredibly dense you can't see that this can only be a good thing for those who use Facebook, and will never even need to enter the minds of those who don't
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wow...quite an angry response...you sound like the typical person who would enjoy something like facebook. the main reason for the hate is that facebook is quite well-known to have very poor standards for privacy and thus to integrate facebook options into the iphone OS raises big questions and introduces new unwanted problems.


ranguvar said:
Ugh, Facebook. It's okay popular douches have to have an excuse for being egocentric, but I don't need, like, or want Facebook anywhere in my life.
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agree, well said. the only reason i haven't closed my facebook is just for the ability for friends from the past to contact me.


i've heard it been said, "facebook is the cancer of modern society where idiots gather."
 
Facebook scare me about as much as Apple, Google or Microsoft.. Ie.. Not at all.

I have no problem with optional integration, it'd be a boon for a lot of users. Social networking definitely has it's place and Facebook definitely got to its current success by being the best of the bunch from a usability and functionality perspective.. Orkut? MySpace? Blech. :)
 
Wtf.

:mad:
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How about instead of bloating the already flaky and slow (at times) OS with company-specific features, they LET FACEBOOK do it with THEIR APP.
Especially since FACEBOOK ALREADY DID! (Well, they did... but for the limited information their SDK allows due to privacy concerns.... which is Facebook's call anyways.)
Once os4 is out FB could even do it automatically in the background with their app.

Hey Apple, instead of wasting time on this FB feature, how about we get DYNAMIC ICONS?
I mean, it would be nice if it my phone didn't report it as 73 & sunny EVERYWHERE I go, even when I'm standing in a puddle being pummeled by hail and sleet.
And it'd be nice if the clock icon weren't frozen at 10:15.

I'd rather see Apple implement THESE features for their Phone's OS, rather than waste time implementing features for specific companies who should be doing it themselves (and would know how to do it the right way themselves anyways).
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oldwatery said:
Why?
What is wrong with having an app rather than a FB logo stuck on the screen.
And why is Apple investing time and effort on this crap?
How long do you think FB is going to last?
I know posters are saying...well if you don't have it no foul...or turn it off...or whatever. but the fact is that if Apple keeps up this dictatorial you gotta have this and do it this way attitude, rightly or not, people are gonna be turned off the product.
I know that integration with this particular site worries me. They are notoriously lax with their privacy issues and in this day an age that is becoming a serious problem.
This partnership is so unnecessary :(
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Exactly. If the user doesn't use Facebook they'll STILL have the code in the OS wasting space on the phone. It's code bloat, pure and simple.
This sort of thing is best left to the app.
And hell Apple is finally going to allow multitasking, so the FB app will be able to sit in the background and do the syncing itself.
I'd rather not have Apple sticking it's fingers into where they don't belong (my FB information).
 
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:mad:
And it'd be nice if the clock icon weren't frozen at 10:15.

I'd rather see Apple implement THESE features for their Phone's OS, rather than waste time implementing features for specific companies who should be doing it themselves (and would know how to do it the right way themselves anyways).
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I see your point but good Social media integration looks like something other phone providers are doing in a big way, particularly MS.. And it could be handy as an OS level to avoid having to install loads of 3rd party stuff.

I dont find the os slow and bloated and trust Apple to do the right thing here. They'd only do it if it worked well and unintrusively. :)

And err.. Why do you need the clock icon to update when there's a clock at the top? Seems a bit of a niche request.. Also.. Why do you need to quickly know the weather as it is at the moment you're stood outside in it already? You already know the weather at that point. I'm confused.
 
mixel said:
Facebook scare me about as much as Apple, Google or Microsoft.. Ie.. Not at all.

I have no problem with optional integration, it'd be a boon for a lot of users. Social networking definitely has it's place and Facebook definitely got to its current success by being the best of the bunch from a usability and functionality perspective.. Orkut? MySpace? Blech. :)
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The issue is we already have optional integration. The app from FB (available now) already syncs FB info with the phone's contacts.
 
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The issue is we already have optional integration. The app from FB (available now) already syncs FB info with the phone's contacts.
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There's a lot more they can do with integration than just that though. I wouldnt mind if they supported FB/Flickr/Picasa/etc if they don't force you to use them and they don't clutter the interface. They can also do more to integrate MobileMe if they want to.

I dont have problems with how things are now either, the FB app is pretty decent.
 
spazzcat said:
If it wasn't for Facebook, I would have not met my brother. So while you may not want/use social networking. There are millions of people that use it everyday. It makes sense to make it part of the OS on a phone. And like other things, I am suse there will be a turn off button, but if you don't have an account with them, there is nothing to integrate.
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No it dosen't make sense to make it INTEGRATED into the OS of a phone.
The issue isn't people's use of Facebook or it's usefulness, it's that the functionality is best left for the Facebook APP, not the OS.

It makes sense to have it as an app you can choose to install or not.
It makse sense because if you don't want it you can use that space for OTHER things you may be more interested in rather than have the inactive unused code wasting space on your phone.

I'm sure many people would find it useful for their car to have a popup cutout of charo appearing out of the dash when they get in, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE should have that functionality installed by default.
 
mixel said:
I see your point but good Social media integration looks like something other phone providers are doing in a big way, particularly MS.. And it could be handy as an OS level to avoid having to install loads of 3rd party stuff.

I dont find the os slow and bloated and trust Apple to do the right thing here. They'd only do it if it worked well and unintrusively. :)

And err.. Why do you need the clock icon to update when there's a clock at the top? Seems a bit of a niche request.. Also.. Why do you need to quickly know the weather as it is at the moment you're stood outside in it already? You already know the weather at that point. I'm confused.
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And why do you need Apple to instal this a part of the OS when you can easily add it as an app.
I'm confused ;)
 
mixel said:
Facebook scare me about as much as Apple, Google or Microsoft.. Ie.. Not at all.

I have no problem with optional integration, it'd be a boon for a lot of users. Social networking definitely has it's place and Facebook definitely got to its current success by being the best of the bunch from a usability and functionality perspective.. Orkut? MySpace? Blech. :)
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And that is the whole point.
FB might be the bee's knees right now but give it a year or so and you know something else will displace it. So why integrate it into the OS?
I've read all the comments but NO ONE has stated clearly why this is necessary.
Oh and as far as it being the high water mark for usability etc...you have to be kidding. The interface, settings and other mainline items are far from user friendly. Quite the opposite.
 
Facebook integration into the OS? Given Facebook is a regular target of hacking, identity theft and all around computing stupidity, that sounds like an invitation for the first mass migration of viruses and spyware into the Mac Operating System ever. Good job Mr. Jobs. You'll just invited hackers to destroy the best niche the Mac OS has (namely a safe-haven from all the CRAP that ruins computing on Windows machines).
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
Facebook integration into the OS? Given Facebook is a regular target of hacking, identity theft and all around computing stupidity, that sounds like an invitation for the first mass migration of viruses and spyware into the Mac Operating System ever. Good job Mr. Jobs. You'll just invited hackers to destroy the best niche the Mac OS has (namely a safe-haven from all the CRAP that ruins computing on Windows machines).
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That is a good point. I did not think about the security issues. Yikes.
 
If it's entirely optional, if you don't want or like it, don't use it?

I can understand the criticism if you don't get a choice, but if you get to opt-in, then I really can't see the harm?

I would like some parts of it. Like using Facebook profile photos for my contacts in Addressbook/contacts of whom I currently does not already have a photo assigned to.

As for importing contacts from Facebook into my iPhone's contacts however, that would be kind of counter-productive. Most people I'm friends with on Facebook are not people I would communicate with by phone. Since Facebook friends are mostly acquaintances rather than 'friends' any kind of such syncing of contacts would not be intuitive for most people.
 
I'm no fan of Facebook, but seriously—no Google syncing, no Twitter syncing, but Facebook gets up?

Mac needs to unify these services on the desktop first, (even Facebook if you must) and tuck them away behind a tab in Mail or something. Then you can integrate with iPhone/Pad.

Too many knee-jerk responses Apple. How about "gorgeous" file syncing between the desktop and mobile devices first, eh?
 
If they're going to integrate, I'd rather it be with Twitter. Playing this out to its logical conclusion I'd like to follow a DJ or artist all of my Facebook friends/associates. Simply put unfollowing someone on Twitter is not a diss, but unfriending someone is. That means that Twitter relationships are richer and can be more focused.
 
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