Apple Extends Non-Disclosure to App Store Rejection Letters

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple has gotten a significant amount of critical press surrounding its rejection policies in the App Store. A few high profile rejections have been widely reported and inspired at least one amusing comic.

    Aparently, Apple has now started labeling their rejection letters with Non-Disclosure (NDA) warnings:
    Readers should note that Apple's developer correspondence may have already been covered by the original NDA, but Apple is now making it clear.

    In contrast to Apple's approval process for the App Store, the newly announced Android Market claims an entirely unrestricted free-for-all model. Early concerns about that model question how inappropriate, spam, or malicious material may be filtered. It seems that the efforts to prevent issues such as bandwidth abuse have been shifted to the carrier who has implemented caps for the 3G data plans at 1GB per month:

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  2. AliensAreFuzzy macrumors 68000


    May 30, 2004
    Madison, WI
    While I don't appreciate how much Apple is trying to close off the system and make it a black box, I don't think a free-for-all approach will be any better. There will be so much junk to sift through to find something good. Not to mention malicious app possibilities.
  3. arn macrumors god


    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    I predict the #1 app in the Android Market store will be porn. :) Not that there's anything wrong with that I guess.

    (and #2 will be Koi Pond)

  4. PBG4 Dude macrumors 68000

    PBG4 Dude

    Jul 6, 2007
    Now Apple doesn't even want you talking about the fact you've been rejected from their store? That's pretty damn weak.
  5. jawzzy macrumors regular

    May 13, 2007
    New York
    Hmm...I guess in the android marketplace, people will have ot get outside reviews from places like Giz or Engadget or Pogue and then go specifically find those apps.
  6. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    I wonder what purpose it serves Apple to put the letters under the NDA as well, other than to shield them from the press.

    Shielding from the press is not the purpose from an NDA... the purpose of an NDA is to protect sensitive information from competitors.

    What we have here are two extremes: Apple going off the deep end on secrecy and Google being perhaps a bit too open and opening themselves up for malware. Why can't we have a cool, moderate head in this ballgame?
  7. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007

    These devs that go running to the court of public blogging (oh how we know how much reasearch and objectivity blogs and their posters put into things 99% of the time. :rolleyes:) to air their dirty laundry is unprofessional to say the least.

    They are in a contract with apple, this contract now extends to the rejection letters.

    if they don't like it, either swallow their gripes or they can go build an app for that new phone that does not even have a headphone jack.*

    *dongles are a joke.
  8. topicolo macrumors 68000


    Jun 4, 2002
    Ottawa, ON
    so instead of addressing the issue of banning competitors, they try to silence them?

    Apple is turning into a monster of a company--the kind with traits that all the mac purists hated in microsoft years ago, but worse!
  9. ATG macrumors regular

    Aug 7, 2005

    Apple appears to have gone power mad. I certainly won't be developing any iPhone apps.
  10. stuy119 macrumors newbie

    Aug 30, 2008

    So you put in time and effort, and we don't like your app since it makes us look bad, cheap, etc. Oh, but you can't comment on how you feel.

    Just take it like a man! And you'll like it!

    What a crock.
  11. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007
    What needs addressing?

    The podcaster app broke the SDK rules.

    And apple and the dev can still address it if they need to, between themselves, not between apple, the dev and the bloggers that don't have all the facts in front of them yet still will knee jerk to "apple is evil" in 2 seconds flat.
  12. BrianMojo macrumors regular

    Jul 10, 2006
    Boston, MA
    This is awful. C'mon, Apple, this is just draconian and you know it.

    Expect a swift backlash.
  13. Island Dog macrumors 6502a

    Island Dog

    Sep 11, 2005
    St. Cloud, FL.
  14. NAG macrumors 68030


    Aug 6, 2003
    Yeah, this is rather insane. Our two choices seem to be a complete black box and a free for all. Can't we have something in the middle?
  15. Stella macrumors 604


    Apr 21, 2003
    Apple are getting seriously lame.

    I wonder if they are starting to feel pressure regarding their inconsistent AppStore policy?
  16. whooleytoo macrumors 603


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.

    How does that even work? There's an NDA covering the SDK which you have to agree to before developing an app, sure.

    But how does an NDA on an email work? You can't read the warning without reading the email, there's no "opt out" option. It's not an NDA.

    That statement isn't worth the email it's printed on!
  17. DanielJvdBerg macrumors regular

    Jun 1, 2008
    The Netherlands.
  18. Mattjeff macrumors 6502


    Jun 2, 2008
    Apple has been on a slipery slide down hill for a while here, Arrogant, power hungry, iWay or the high way.
    Good buy think different, hello think like we tell you.:(
  19. dolphin842 macrumors 65816

    Jul 14, 2004
    The situation appears to be getting worse rather than better!

    Hear hear... the iPhone should be the ideal platform for a compromise of this sort. I think that if Apple just makes it clear which apps are OK and which aren't, that would go a long way towards reaching that goal. Still, I don't like the idea of potentially useful apps being denied for spurious reasons...
  20. whooleytoo macrumors 603


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    p.s. anyone else see the irony in the Non-disclosure warning being leaked to the public? :p
  21. Elven macrumors 6502a


    May 13, 2008
    Something needs to be done, because everyone will just jailbreak to obtain app's they want.
  22. sfoalex macrumors 6502

    Aug 11, 2001
    Earth, no seriously.
    Luckily for me, I had already decided to switch away from the iPhone. Mostly because it's lacking a few features I need and I waiting is stupid. When the features are there, my iPhone will be brought from the drawer and re-considered. But at this point, if Android gets the software I need, perhaps Apple will not be re-considered at all.

    Big mistake by Apple. Closing the system is a bad idea. And it's gone from bad to worse.

    No more money from me Apple. Clean up your act.

    Alex Alexzander
  23. Le Big Mac macrumors 68020

    Le Big Mac

    Jan 7, 2003
    Washington, DC
    You agree to it when you send the app in for approval, right?

    It's short-sighted, because if developers don't know what fails, then they won't bother spending time if it's just a crapshoot.

    I think it's fine to NDA the specific reasons in specific cases, but if Apple does that they need to explain their decisions at least in general terms so other developers can understand what's good and what's not.
  24. deannnnn macrumors 68000


    Jun 4, 2007
    New York City & South Florida
    Still... Apple is really starting to annoy me.
    Why does it have to be under non-disclosure?
    Who is Apple to decide whether a not an app has limited utility?
  25. OddyOh macrumors regular


    Nov 29, 2005
    Regina, SK, Canada

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