Apple Faces Another iPhone Lawsuit Over 'Programmed Obsolescence'

[deevey]

Lawyers go after all fish if there is evidence of wrong-doing, not just the biggest one.
iOS is still a laggy POS after updates. I should know. I work with iPhone X and Xs users. Don't excuse Apple placing malware on their customers' devices.

I have a number of Apple iPads and iPhones where their life span has been extended by a significant amount by allowing them to receive updates for years after their release date - the complete opposite of planned obsolescence.

Running iOS 12 on a 5s for example has improved the feature-set and allows me to use the majority of up-to-date software which would otherwise render the phone pretty useless for anything other than basic tasks.

Agreed the 6s battery fiasco was a stupid "fix" and even more stupid to leave that "fix" out of the release documentation. One model 3 freaking years ago - but hardly in line with what apple is being accused of here, which is bricking devices beyond use in order to get you to upgrade intentionally.

At the end of the day, the latest software will not run on ancient devices no matter if that is an Android, PC, iPhone, Xbox or TV .... there is a hard limit to what new technology and software developments the hardware can handle - you WILL need to upgrade your device at some point or new software will not run well, or at all. Fact, with all devices.

Apple allows you to run up-to-date software on older devices, continues to provide security updates to older devices, and thus extends the usefulness of older devices further than pretty much anyone else on the market. I just fail to see the problem.

What is this "malware" you are on about anyhow?

 

[I7guy]

Lawyers go after all fish if there is evidence of wrong-doing, not just the biggest one.
iOS is still a laggy POS after updates. I should know. I work with iPhone X and Xs users. Don't excuse Apple placing malware on their customers' devices.

You calling it malware doesn't make it so. And this suit should go the way of the class-action lawsuit for the facetime bug. In all fairness, there has been some better and worse released and the way Apple handled the 6s batter problem could have been better. But horses for course and all that and YMMV.

Receiving no updates after 3 years is far better than receiving malware for 5 years straight.
I don't care if I stop receiving more updates from samsung, as my phone continues to run flawlessly.
Can't say the same about leggy iPhones. I think my Droid x performs better than the iPhone x, xs and 11 on the newest ios.

Well, if my two choices in the world were to live with a fast, phone without any security patches in a few years, or a slower phone that is patched up to date as possible, I pick the latter. YMMV on this of course.

 

[darngooddesign]

Receiving no updates after 3 years is far better than receiving malware for 5 years straight.
I don't care if I stop receiving more updates from samsung, as my phone continues to run flawlessly.
Can't say the same about leggy iPhones. I think my Droid x performs better than the iPhone x, xs and 11 on the newest ios.

Meh, my XR is on its third OS and my iPad Pro is on its sixth OS, both run great. I'll be sad if my iPadPro doesn't get iOS15 later this year.

 

[AppleShareholder]

That's just utter nonsense. You're just trolling now. Cheerio.

Not trolling, just stating facts.
It worked well in my favor when I was holding Apple stock and made millions off you and every Apple fan replacing your devices every year or 2, so I shouldn't really be complaining. Now that I don't own any Apple products or stock, it doesn't really bother me if Apple does decide to change their scumbag tactics or not. I'm just saying that you shouldn't support a company like this./

 

[I7guy]

Not trolling, just stating facts.

You're stating an anecdotal opinion. Please don't confuse opinions with facts.

[...]so I shouldn't really be complaining. Now that I don't own any Apple products or stock, it doesn't really bother me if Apple does decide to change their scumbag tactics or not. I'm just saying that you shouldn't support a company like this./

Let the people decide if they want to buy products from this company. Based on last quarters' performance the people have decided and maybe yours is a minority opinion. (which you are entitled to however)

 

[Denzo]

I like to think I’m practically minded. I don’t have an issue with Apple.
I own an iPhone 12 and it’s the best phone I’ve ever owned. The build quality is incredible. Does everything lightning fast. No complaints. Even battery is fantastic.
my iPad though is an older device and once it got its recent update it became unusable. Simple safari use is too much for it. I let my kid use it for kids YouTube videos and it runs like crap even for that. Wish they let you use it how it was intended.

 

[beanbaguk]

Not trolling, just stating facts.
It worked well in my favor when I was holding Apple stock and made millions off you and every Apple fan replacing your devices every year or 2, so I shouldn't really be complaining. Now that I don't own any Apple products or stock, it doesn't really bother me if Apple does decide to change their scumbag tactics or not. I'm just saying that you shouldn't support a company like this./

Like I said.

You’re nothing more than a troll.

I don’t believe for one second a word of what you’re saying regarding your supposed stocks and all your “malware” nonsense is just there to aggravate.

 

[vicmajri]

Tbh, how much I love Apple. I think this is true as my phone was working properly but somehow after an update, it started having some bugs which I occasionally do not have. (Also my alarm didn't work and if I eventually woke up it was bugged out if that was because of Apple slowing down my phone for me to buy a new one pls fix that because that's not cool...) And also tbh Apple fully has the right from me to do this as their os is supported on so much older devices. Altho yes they should by the law describe, it's overreacted.

 

[AppleShareholder]

Like I said.

You’re nothing more than a troll.

I don’t believe for one second a word of what you’re saying regarding your supposed stocks and all your “malware” nonsense is just there to aggravate.

Malware - Wikipedia

Malware (a portmanteau for malicious software) is any software intentionally designed to cause damage to a computer, server, client, or computer network[1][2] (by contrast, software that causes unintentional harm due to some deficiency is typically described as a software bug).

As the performance degradation and battery issues were intentional, Apple's software is correctly defined as MALWARE and not a BUG.

 

[AppleShareholder]

I like to think I’m practically minded. I don’t have an issue with Apple.
I own an iPhone 12 and it’s the best phone I’ve ever owned. The build quality is incredible. Does everything lightning fast. No complaints. Even battery is fantastic.
my iPad though is an older device and once it got its recent update it became unusable. Simple safari use is too much for it. I let my kid use it for kids YouTube videos and it runs like crap even for that. Wish they let you use it how it was intended.

Just wait until this year or next year's update. Your iPhone 12 will run worse than 10-year-old android phones. Apple is hard at work with their next malware. The performance degradation will be like none you've ever witnessed before. 🤣

 

[robco74]

Apple should just stop selling. Make everything subscription-based. Lease devices for up to three years, with the lease payments including AppleCare. Take them back, refurb them, then offer them for another three. Then take them back and recycle them. Close the App Store, make Xcode a subscription similar to MSDN, then make a productivity and creativity focused subscription service similar to Arcade.. Allow other app stores onto the platform, devs can go to them to publish and distribute, or self-publish.

Apple can't then be accused of planned obsolescence, or from taking too much revenue from app sales, while still making plenty of recurring revenue.

 

[Romeo_Nightfall]

Please tell me how it is wrong.

What is wrong - please provide context

 

[Arsenikdote]

What is wrong - please provide context

🤣 great trolling!! That made me almost spit out my coffee!