I think Apple should listen to the MacRumours crowd and pull out of Germany or European market.
if people want spyware and malware, android is over there 👉
Considering EPIC Game have sued Google on similar grounds as Apple, I assume very few people do actually takes the risk to side load on Android devices. In that sense, the difference seem to be insignificant.Difference is, Google only charges for distribution truth its store, it doesn't force distribution truth its store.
Visa is just middle man from bank to seller.The difference is, there is big diversity in cars and car systems, while in the smartphone market 2 companies control 99%. And one of those companies forces a cut of 30% (which is a lot) with no way to get around it.
Just imagine VISA would charge 30% for every transaction.
The lack of diversity in the smartphone market is hardly Apple or Google’s fault. They shouldn’t be blamed for other companies’ failure to challenge them. Apple has every right to force 30% or any amount of commission on developers as they see fit. They rightfully earned their dominant position in the market by pioneering digital software distribution and creating the best smartphone.The difference is, there is big diversity in cars and car systems, while in the smartphone market 2 companies control 99%. And one of those companies forces a cut of 30% (which is a lot) with no way to get around it.
Just imagine VISA would charge 30% for every transaction.
Visa is just middle man from bank to seller.
The lack of diversity in the smartphone market is hardly Apple or Google’s fault.
Simple way to put these countries back in line, ban them form using all of your services, then watch fall back in line.
The lack of diversity in the smartphone market is hardly Apple or Google’s fault. They shouldn’t be blamed for other companies’ failure to challenge them.
Apple has every right to force 30% or any amount of commission on developers as they see fit.
They rightfully earned their dominant position in the market by pioneering digital software distribution and creating the best smartphone.
These governments and regulatory bodies are effectively punishing companies for being successful in the name of antitrust; they operate on the untrue assumption that monopolies are inherently bad and can only be achieved illegally.
Maybe Facebook and make a phone that allows side loading apps for them.Mobile Operating System Market Share in Germany - May 2021
Android 64.65%
iOS 34.34%
Samsung 0.93%
Windows 0.03%
BlackBerry OS 0.01%
Other 0.01%
You have an opinion. Now please back it up with arguments.Make iOS like MacOS. Sideloading apps is GOOD, not bad.
What exactly is irrelevant? You’re suggesting that Apple shouldn’t be able to define its own business model simply because it has a dominant position in the market. You’re basically discouraging companies from being successful.Irrelevant, even if true (which is questionable).
What exactly is irrelevant? You’re suggesting that Apple shouldn’t be able to define its own business model simply because it has a dominant position in the market.
You’re basically discouraging companies from being successful.
Sure, but it quickly gets complicated when you start to ask who chooses which service categories and service providers the user gets to choose from?I guess one way to avoid this is to add a few more screens to the on-Boarding. Super annoying, but convenience was never in their focus. Just look at these annoying cookie banners. Just picture additional screens like „Which browser would you like to use? - list of options“ Which music service would you like to use? - list of options, etc. and whatever you decide to pick, will be chosen as it’s default option
And what’s wrong with that? If other companies are as successful as Microsoft, they can do the same thing as continue competing with Microsoft, but they’re not as successful, so they cry to governments about “anticompetitive behavior”. Private companies should be able to leverage their success to become even more successful.It said that Microsoft wasn't allowed to leverage the Windows market share in order to also create dominant positions in other markets (such as web browsers and media players).
That is indeed troubling.Just found the real reason for the complaints in the press release of the Bundeskartellamt:
"...these include, among others, an association complaint from the advertising and media industry against Apple restricting user tracking with the introduction of its iOS 14.5 operating system..."
So this, again, is the Springer Press working in the background, teamed up with Facebook Germany and others.
Dis-gus-ting!
That's a great find!Just found the real reason for the complaints in the press release of the Bundeskartellamt:
"...these include, among others, an association complaint from the advertising and media industry against Apple restricting user tracking with the introduction of its iOS 14.5 operating system..."
So this, again, is the Springer Press working in the background, teamed up with Facebook Germany and others.
Dis-gus-ting!
So.. iPhones shouldn’t come with ring tones because you can buy those from someone else.. or wallpapers, or a phone app.. this is stupidity at its best. I’m all about supporting developers, but this is getting greedy.Finally the governments around the world are going after the monopolistic dominance of the big tech. Long overdue.
Visa is just middle man from bank to seller.
30% for risk handling, transaction handling, advertising, store support etc etc, that ok.
How much do you think supermarkets take, its more like 50%
That's a great find!
It's disconcerting and disappointing for the government to be pretending to be pro consumer when they're really doing the advertising industry's dirty work.
Antitrust laws exist for that exact reason.And what’s wrong with that? If other companies are as successful as Microsoft, they can do the same thing as continue competing with Microsoft, but they’re not as successful, so they cry to governments about “anticompetitive behavior”. Private companies should be able to leverage their success to become even more successful.
Sure, but it speaks to the motive behind the probe in the first place. That's not immaterial.You are talking about a government relatively protective of consumer privacy, especially compared to others.
The issue is that it doesn't matter who issues a formal complaint, the question is only whether the complaint is valid, which is what this probe is supposed to determine.