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What happens when we all get replaced by machines? I think that’s a very good possibility within the next 50 years. I’m not sure of the answer to that one. I don’t think the answer is hold technology back so we can have these jobs that are not necessary.

I can agree with that... but as the creators of the technologies that can replace most of how we make our livings, we might want to put some tangible thoughts and plans into "then what?"

I suspect those demanding to be paid money for essential human services won't be happy to keep serving humans their services and not be paid. And if it's A.I. running those business services, they can just switch off the flow of water, electricity, etc over unpaid bills and not even give a thought to it. Automating eviction notices is already easy to those who can't pay their rent or mortgage. Etc.

Yes, those very few able to develop and/or train new A.I. learnings/robotics to replace ever-thinning biological jobs seem to be the last of the "creators" to be replaced but not everyone can become that kind of last remaining "God." Extinct ourselves by replacing ourselves? Replace monetary systems with something else? There is a tremendous race on to advance A.I. ASAP. Are there many working on the "then what?" part for the biologicals? I've seen a little on the topic but nothing close to the enthusiasm and focus on moving A.I. along.
 
The only reason I keep mine on is that it summarizes my partner’s messages to me, and some of them make me laugh!
'Lorna needs money now', 'Lorna hungry, will get cranky if not eat soon', 'Lorna late for work, ate chickens instead'. The other notifications are actually annoying and not informative for me one bit!
Yeah - a lot of the summaries are a mish-mash of the subjects of the messages/e-mails/notifications that rarely make sense. Some are hilarious but I always expand them to find out the real info just like I did before the summarization feature where you could see the info from the top one only.

The summarization feature is a work in progress. When I upgraded I was given the option to turn the feature on and I can turn it off if I want. If RSF doesn't like it, turn it off but don't whine that everyone should lose the ability to make this choice.

If Apple wants to improve it, they should add the ability to forward the notifications & summary to Apple when the summary is REALLY messed up like they do for the automatic voice-to-text of voice mails.
 
I don't know why I haven't seen anyone post what the real headline was.
Let's be honest, it might be because it would be more understandable why the summary was confused. Not saying they are perfect, but everyone knows that the state of journalism right now means that the headlines are designed to be misinterpreted to get attention. Maybe the AI summary is just the mirror they need.
 
I can agree with that... but as the creators of the technologies that can replace most of how we make our livings, we might want to put some tangible thoughts and plans into "then what?"


I suspect those demanding to be paid money for essential human services won't be happy to keep serving humans their services and not be paid. And if it's A.I. running those business services, they can just switch off the flow of water, electricity, etc over unpaid bills and not even give a thought to it. Automating eviction notices is already easy to those who can't pay their rent or mortgage. Etc.

Yes, those very few able to develop and/or train new A.I. learnings/robotics to replace ever-thinning biological jobs seem to be the last of the "creators" to be replaced but not everyone can become that kind of last remaining "God." Extinct ourselves by replacing ourselves? Replace monetary systems with something else? There is a tremendous race on to advance A.I. ASAP. Are there many working on the "then what?" part for the biologicals? I've seen a little on the topic but nothing close to the enthusiasm and focus on moving A.I. along.
What thought do you want them to put into it? If I’m making AI, how can I have anything to do with some newscaster being replaced? Am I supposed to not do it just so we can keep this job that’s not needed?

As for eviction notices being automated, I don’t see the problem there either. My landlord right now will physically take a paper eviction notice to my door if I don’t pay the rent. Does it matter if it’s delivered in my email. Either way I pay the rent or leave so nothing changes there. Just like where you work if they stop paying you, are you still coming to work? I suspect the answer for most people is no. Why would I expect anything different from where I live?


I think people have unnecessary fear from automation and technology. It’s like people losing their minds over electric vehicles, but it’s not that big of a deal. People lost their minds when the automobile came out.
 
What thought do you want them to put into it? If I’m making AI, how can I have anything to do with some newscaster being replaced? Am I supposed to not do it just so we can keep this job that’s not needed?

No, OTHERS should be giving thought to it, not the same people working hard at replacing biological jobs with technology. My point was that I don't see any groups giving much thought to it. There should be planning for the world that is coming on fast vs. flying be the seat of the pants without thinking through the ramifications of what we are doing here.

As for eviction notices being automated, I don’t see the problem there either. My landlord right now will physically take a paper eviction notice to my door if I don’t pay the rent. Does it matter if it’s delivered in my email. Either way I pay the rent or leave so nothing changes there.

Right. But again, applying some empathy, I- a stranger- would at least feel some care about what happens to you... especially if it becomes many thousands or millions of "yous" getting such notices without replacement income opportunities to solve "your" problem... that could eventually- or simultaneously- be my problem too.

Just like where you work if they stop paying you, are you still coming to work? I suspect the answer for most people is no. Why would I expect anything different from where I live?

You shouldn't. But if they stop paying me right now, there's still plenty of places that need my skills. On the other hand, if A.I. gobbles up such work, there's as little as no place that needs my skills. We can be heartless and blame the human fool for not evolving their skills to be in demand in something else that still needs biological talent... but as that opportunity thins, there may be few such places... or ability to keep evolving new skills fast enough to compete for a shrinking pool of biological-need jobs.

I think people have unnecessary fear from automation and technology. It’s like people losing their minds over electric vehicles, but it’s not that big of a deal. People lost their minds when the automobile came out.

If I'm "people" I wouldn't call it fear... just proactive strategic thinking. Much of the masses depend upon jobs and don't have easy access to, nor necessarily the easy ability to quickly retrain themselves to be valuable at something else. When big numbers see their jobs lost, they don't just slot in somewhere else immediately. Sometimes there's no "somewhere else" left.

Again, this is empathy. As industries are impacted by A.I. replacing biological talent, the biological talent still has biological needs. Solutions to that problem need to be worked out BEFORE we crash into a world where A.I. gains accelerating ground in many industries all at the same time. Or we can just care nothing about our fellow man and celebrate our technological genius, while living under some bridges and decaying away.
 
Two thoughts: One, it's just a summary and a quick click through will clarify. It needs to get better but it's not as big a deal as BBC is making it. Two, BBC and every other news outlet should put as much effort into fixing their own headlines. They all put out click bait crap that requires reading the article to find out what really happened.
 
Judging by Apple’s history, their AI features are just as bad as anyone would have expected them to be. The most valuable company in the world, ladies and gentlemen.
 
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At lunch time, Cook exits his Apple Park office and walks down to the central garden for some fresh air. Apple Intelligence: "Tim Cook has stepped down".
Seriously though, as well as Tim Cook has done for Apple over the years, from a business perspective, I wonder if Apple will intentionally allow a few fumbles before he steps down, so his replacement can look like the savior they needed to innovate again. Even if they have a bunch of innovative stuff in the pipeline already.

Replacing a highly successful CEO that’s running things perfectly would raise questions as to whether their replacement is suitable, and capable of the same kind of momentum. Whereas replacing a CEO while things are stagnating or after a few failures could possibly boost stock prices 🤔
 
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Wag the dog, best movie on this topic ever.
Totally, this movie never gets any less relevant. People need to wake the —— up but these “smart” devices keep many (to avoid saying most…) folks more brainwashed and ignorant than ever.
 
Yeah, it's pretty terrible. it summarized one of my emails that we fired someone... There was no talk about that at all in the email. It freaked me out for a moment.
Well, obviously the e-mail had the language in it that the LLM learned was associated with firing somebody.... not a good sign...
 
While I get how this might be frustrating to news agencies, it's not like it's that detrimental. All the user has to do is tap the summarized notification to launch the news app that pushed it, and they'll clearly see it was just summarized wrong. Actually, they don't even have to open the news app since it's only the notification that is interpreted by Apple Intelligence. I don't think Apple needs to abandon summarizing news notifications entirely, but maybe a disclaimer when first setting up an iPhone with AI and after software updates? Something to the effect of "Note that notification summaries may sometimes be inaccurate and you should keep this in mind for notifications that are of a more potentially serious or important nature."
 
The line for me was crossed when they stopped making printers. Sure I’ve bought every piece of hardware they’ve sold since then, but that was a line in the sand.
I find this ironic. As I had an Apple Prinyer back in the day, it was a canon printer with an Apple logo and used canon ink.
 
Why is anyone surprised by that? The reason Apple software has been its buggiest under Tim Cook than at any time before him is because he likes to cut corners in order to maximize profits. He doesn't devote resources to fixing bugs, so he makes more money for himself and his beloved shareholders. Given all that, why is anyone surprised that Apple's AI software is so faulty?
 
The only reason I keep mine on is that it summarizes my partner’s messages to me, and some of them make me laugh!
'Lorna needs money now', 'Lorna hungry, will get cranky if not eat soon', 'Lorna late for work, ate chickens instead'. The other notifications are actually annoying and not informative for me one bit!
Lorna sounds cool.

I only have an iphone 12 so my wife is boring by comparison. But she has a 16. I wonder if I have magically become more interesting…
 
Why is anyone surprised by that? The reason Apple software has been its buggiest under Tim Cook than at any time before him is because he likes to cut corners in order to maximize profits. He doesn't devote resources to fixing bugs, so he makes more money for himself and his beloved shareholders. Given all that, why is anyone surprised that Apple's AI software is so faulty?
Mail is constantly not responding on MacOS latest versions. Started when the iOS .2 update came out. My guess is the “sorting hat” installed on iOS is messing with MacOS mail.app
 

Vincent Berthier, head of RSF's technology and journalism desk, said that "AIs are probability machines, and facts can't be decided by a roll of the dice." He called the automated production of false information "a danger to the public's right to reliable information."

In all fairness, human generated headlines haven’t been all that reliable either, and we have had centuries to work out those bugs.
Searching for “stories the BBC got wrong,” for example.
 
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The only reason I keep mine on is that it summarizes my partner’s messages to me, and some of them make me laugh!
'Lorna needs money now', 'Lorna hungry, will get cranky if not eat soon', 'Lorna late for work, ate chickens instead'. The other notifications are actually annoying and not informative for me one bit!
Same, I leave them on for a good laugh, not because they’re anything even close to useful. Apple Intelligence in general has kinda been a nothing burger with a side of nothing.
 
Seriously though, as well as Tim Cook has done for Apple over the years, from a business perspective, I wonder if Apple will intentionally allow a few fumbles before he steps down, so his replacement can look like the savior they needed to innovate again. Even if they have a bunch of innovative stuff in the pipeline already.

Replacing a highly successful CEO that’s running things perfectly would raise questions as to whether their replacement is suitable, and capable of the same kind of momentum. Whereas replacing a CEO while things are stagnating or after a few failures could possibly boost stock prices 🤔
This makes sense
 
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Why is anyone surprised by that? The reason Apple software has been its buggiest under Tim Cook than at any time before him is because he likes to cut corners in order to maximize profits. He doesn't devote resources to fixing bugs, so he makes more money for himself and his beloved shareholders. Given all that, why is anyone surprised that Apple's AI software is so faulty?
Bingo. It's all about shareholder value, sometimes that dovetails with user interests but right now we are in a period where it doesn't. This is Cook's Apple in a nutshell. Sure, it deviates from how they operated but line go up, money printer go brrrrr. Meanwhile developer relationships are at an all-time low. And the entitlement piece of the app store (and 3rd party marketplaces) is wielded like a kudgel against any perceived threat. The reckoning will not be pretty and Apple could have avoided this
 
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