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User backlash? Pffft! They’ll get over it. Depending on individual usage many users of old iPhones don't need or want new features anyway. I’m still using my late 2013 iMac 14,2 running Catalina and it does what I need it to. I don't feel like Apple is trying to ‘force’ me to upgrade. Whiners gonna whine.
 
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I’m still using my late 2013 iMac 14,2 running Catalina and it does what I need it to. I don't feel like Apple is trying to ‘force’ me to upgrade. Whiners gonna whine.

Macs are completely different as the software distribution channel is not locked down and support of old OSes is exceptionally common

Really not a comparison that's relevant vs iOS/iPadOS devices

Whiners gonna whine.

Please don't devolve to commentary like this
It's really just inflammatory
 
You pay for the hardware of the device as it is, you are not guaranteed any specific amount of software support to follow, however.

Love how some people here act as if come iOS 16 their devices will simply cut off and no longer be usable.
 
Maybe I’m missing the point, but all iPhone 7 out there will still work once iOS 16 is released, correct?

So what’s all the outrage about?
 
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Not in this case
You can simply leave something like lock screen stuff "out"
Sorry, but no. The lock screen is privileged functionality in the iOS. Leaving out the lock screen changes from one device’s release means a lot more potential for random bugs and instability to pop up. Plus, it would be a lot like creating a whole separate fork of the windowing system and home screen just for one phone (a six year old phone, at that). It’s not really a feature you can just disable because of where the lock screen sits in the iOS privilege hierarchy. It’s not like Apple disabling AirDrop on hardware that couldn’t support it.
 
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I wish we would stop reporting on when a model was introduced and rather report on the date at which a model was last sold as new.

The iPhone 7 was still sold as new into late 2019. That means we're now expecting OS updates for only 3 years? That's shorter than they have done it in the past.

Also, for all of the reasons mentioned in the article, this is planned obsolescence in action.

I'm disappointed because I got my kids non-activated iPhone 7s for about $150 each in the past year or two - much less than $700+ that Apple wants for new phones now. I knew it wouldn't last as long from an OS upgradability standpoint, but I didn't think Apple would cut it off this quick.

That being said, they will continue to run iOS 15 just fine, and I expect Apple to continue supplying security updates for iOS 15 for some time. But still... I get it. This was a profit play from an incredibly profitable company.
Hey they’re still selling the Apple Watch 3 which will cease getting updates this year. Guess we should hardly be surprised by this move.
 
Hey they’re still selling the Apple Watch 3 which will cease getting updates this year. Guess we should hardly be surprised by this move.

Still selling the AW3 new is just an outrageous move by Apple.

It is nearly criminal to take money from users for those right now given what we know will happen to that dog of a device.
 
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Yeah, actually
That's not a revelatory concept in software engineering and product design/support
Yes, but where do you draw the line? What if I wanted Apple to maintain support for the OG iPhone? And what gives your use case and phone any priority over my use case and phone?
 
Even though I suspect it wont' do much, it never hurts to shoot emails to tcook@apple.com and to fill out the Apple feedback form about all this.


It all gets reviewed and culled over by computers and humans

(I say that, as I have received a reply before)

Never know
Never hurts
 
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The app support cut off that comes after changes like this is the main issue

It's been addressed many times in this thread
Sounds like entitlement to software support to me, regardless of if it's for Apple's software or third party apps.

iPhone 7 is a 6 year old device; those who want to make the argument that it was still being sold in 2019 are making a foolishly weak argument because even if you bought it new in 2019, you did so KNOWING it was a three year old device at the time. Your window of software support was, understandably, smaller as a result of buying it as late into the device's lifespan as you did.
 
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Forced obsolescence. It's nothing new. Hardware has been so good for many years now, the only way they can force you to upgrade is by obsoleting it firstly from from OS updates then from security updates.
I do not think that term means what you think it means.
 
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People don't seem to get this, but you are absolutely correct

Obviously there are some exceptions, but App compatibility is based on the OS version not the hardware.

Can you cite some examples of apps that dropped iOS14 support right after iOS15 was released? What about dropping iOS13 after iOS15 was released? It's going to be years before the iOS15 isn't supported by apps in any meaningful way because most develoeprs know that there is another app in the App Store that does almost the same thing as their app. So barring any new hardware features, iPhone7s should be fine regarding apps for a while.
 
Some developers will start to support only iOS 16 for their apps as soon as it comes out in september, which is the foreseeable future. That does obsolete a device not getting that update.
I perhaps this is an argument of semantics. If by "obsolete" you mean that the phone is "out-dated" of "discontinued" then yes, iPhones 7 are going to be obsolete. Most people on this thread seem to use obsolete to mean "rendered unusable" or "forced to upgrade", which is in no way happening.
 
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That is correct and using your own logic, iOS 16 is supported by the iPhone 7. Perhaps not all features as there have been released for past iPhones where certain features didn't make it to older models due to hardware limitations.
The iPhone 7 doesn't have the necessary hardware required for the lock screen part of iOS16, and maybe even some other parts, which is why it isn't supported.
 
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The point is that Apple was selling it new just 3 years ago

This is a point being made because folks like to praise Apple for long support cycles.
That point of praise for Apple gets nuked a bit when they flip around and do a cull like this so, relatively, quickly.

Consumers count on "Apple sells it as new" to mean something about it's place in the lineup and longevity.

Anyone who buys tech that is older, especially 3 years after its launch, has to understand that support timeframes aren’t ever going to be the same as when the product was new. That discount for buying older tech comes at a cost. Now it’s time to pay it.

As for “consumers count on Apple sells it new to mean something”, come on. People know when they are purchasing an iPhone 11 today, alongside the various models of iPhone 12 and 13, that they aren’t purchasing “new” (in the sense of current and modern) tech. They can clearly see two years worth of improvements and upgrades that due to cost, need, or both, had them choose the cheaper model. That old model is already missing features. Already had 2 years of its lifetime support pass. And those are all things you accepted to save money.
 
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Spoken like a true Apple executive! Why? If the phone still works, and is capable, why should anyone be forced to upgrade? Not everyone needs the greatest and latest.

If the iPhone 7 still allows these users to text, review their social media, etc, then that's great.
No one is being forced to upgrade. Apple is not sending out an Order 66 to the SE to stop the phones. My car does not have Car Play but newer models do - is that forcing me to buy a new car or even a stereo? Of course not.
 
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Anyone who buys tech that is older, especially 3 years after its launch, has to understand that support timeframes aren’t ever going to be the same as when the product was new.

No no no

We don't get to do this kind of both sides arguing on Apple's behalf

A huge reason a lot of folks choose Apple is to specifically not have to think about this kind of stuff.
They count on Apple to not be pulling the rug out like this.
 
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What I don't understand is where is the e-waste gang from the usb-c port switch? They vilify the EU for destroying the world and now, crickets. Come out, come out wherever you are!

This is a great point

The same cadre that likes to blast the EU for trying to tackle waste via USB-C standards across the board is happy to applaud Apple in the other direction here.

There's a mega faction who simply backs whatever Apple does, irrespective of how much cognitive dissonance is required.
 
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