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Perhaps these people need to stop smoking.

I don’t smoke, but I live close to an highway. I had a 2012 iMac, and an apple thunderbolt screen that developed this problem. Both fixed for free because of AppleCare. I sold them both.

Want to know why I sold them? When I picked my TB screen at the apple store, the store next to them was being renovated, and all the iMacs in the store showed this exact problem, just much worse.

Bought a nice dell screen, changed macs a couple of time (now running with a mac mini), I live in the same location and no dust in my screen after 5 years in a « dusty » environment.
 
We used to see this in all our iMacs when our city office had opening windows over a busy street. Since moving to an office with sealed windows the problem hasn't recurred.
 
I've said this here before, but there is nothing newsworthy about the filing of a class action suit. Anyone can do it; you can allege anything you want. The large majority of them fail well before a class is ever certified by the court, which is prerequisite to recovering any relief in court.
 
Having just gotten an iMac Pro, I was wondering about this... The iMac Pro is EXTREMELY non user-serviceable.

My Mac Mini has been having some heat issues. I've cleaned it out before, and will do it again once I have fully gotten the iMac Pro setup.

Does anybody sell third-party filters for the air inlets on the iMac Pro? (Or, for the sake of others here, regular iMacs, notebooks, etc.)
 
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People really will sue over anything, won’t they?

This is not a "nothing", though.

Have never had a computer that didn't require occasional opening up and cleaning. Even WITH filters.

It was the first thing I noticed about the iMac Pro.

I think they have a very good case, because these products are not user serviceable, are costly to have serviced, and it is industry standard to BOTH have filters, AND make it easy to get in to clean. I think they can make an argument that it is not suitable to the purpose it was designed for. (e.g. operation in a normal office/home environment for a reasonable lifetime - e.g. at LEAST until Apple drops support for the product).

Of course, put one on a machine-shop floor, and it's not going to live long, that's a given.

Haha, looks like I already researched it, and came up only with this:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/dust-filter-for-imac-air-intake.384507/

("swiffer, inside-out...")
 
I've said this here before, but there is nothing newsworthy about the filing of a class action suit. Anyone can do it; you can allege anything you want. The large majority of them fail well before a class is ever certified by the court, which is prerequisite to recovering any relief in court.

One big difference.

Hagens Berman has won cases against Bayer, Philip Morris, Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, Visa, and Mastercard. Many of those were multi-billion dollar settlements.

This isn't some one-man law firm filing a complaint. Hagens Berman doesn't file complaints if they don't expect to win.
 
I don’t smoke, but I live close to an highway. I had a 2012 iMac, and an apple thunderbolt screen that developed this problem. Both fixed for free because of AppleCare. I sold them both.

Want to know why I sold them? When I picked my TB screen at the apple store, the store next to them was being renovated, and all the iMacs in the store showed this exact problem, just much worse.

Bought a nice dell screen, changed macs a couple of time (now running with a mac mini), I live in the same location and no dust in my screen after 5 years in a « dusty » environment.

Why don't you get an air purifier? That will fix the smog issue where you live. It's not healthy for you and your electronics. If you own pianos, digital or acrostic, you will have hell to pay if your place is dusty and that's gonna cost you $200k+ to replace and retune for something like a Steinway.
 
Eyeroll. You Americans will sue for anything and everything

That's because Americans have extremely weak consumer laws. So problems get settled in court instead.
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Why don't you get an air purifier? That will fix the smog issue where you live. It's not healthy for you and your electronics. If you own pianos, digital or acrostic, you will have hell to pay if your place is dusty and that's gonna cost you $200k+ to replace and retune for something like a Steinway.

Why should people be forced to buy an expensive air purifier when they buy a Mac?
 
Maybe, if this is a problem, that the people making this claim needed to keep their work area cleaner in the first place?

Dear Apple,

I live next to a dirt road and my Mac is being affected by it. I'm not responsible for what I may or may not do, so what are you going to do about it?
My work area is clear. Like.. REALLY clear. My last two iMacs had this problem badly. My 2012 one had two screen replacements to fix it (EU consumer law thing, way out of warranty but still free) - my most recent iMac still has it to a small degree, from the previous owner - who also didn't have an unusually messy desk or anything. It is a clear design flaw and absolutely ridiculous that it has gone on for so long.*

I've seen them with these dark smudgy corner/marks in the apple store ffs. The fans pull microscopic particles in (nobody's house is 100% dust free) and they get deposited *between layers of the LCD screen* making it really damn hard to fix even if you did manage to get inside the iMac yourself. and this is an issue that affected multiple generations. It puts me off wanting to get any more iMacs until i 100% know its never going to happen again.

*maybe it's fixed now!

But yeah I love my Apple stuff but this is legitimately infuriating.

It can't be my "work area" as it's literally only iMacs that I've seen with this problem, and I've used many monitors etc, some for multiple generations of hardware in the exact same work area and nothing other than iMacs has had this problem.
 
Here's a thought. Don't be a dirt ball. Don't use your computer in a dusty environment... or you'll get dust in it.
 
I had this happen to my 2011 imac. I simply removed the magnetized glass cover and wiped it with a lens paper - problem solved and no class action lawsuit required.

All jokes aside, its dust which we know can get in the most obscure places. I don’t think any computer is immune to this. If it truly affects performance as described, I wonder how they’re going to try and prove it.
 
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That's because Americans have extremely weak consumer laws. So problems get settled in court instead.
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Why should people be forced to buy an expensive air purifier when they buy a Mac?
because Mac gets allergies too, just like your kids
 
One big difference.

Hagens Berman has won cases against Bayer, Philip Morris, Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, Visa, and Mastercard. Many of those were multi-billion dollar settlements.

This isn't some one-man law firm filing a complaint. Hagens Berman doesn't file complaints if they don't expect to win.
Didn't they (Hagens) already beat Apple in the e-Book case?
 
I had this happen to my 2011 imac. I simply removed the magnetized glass cover and wiped it with a lens paper - problem solved and no class action lawsuit required.

All jokes aside, its dust which we know can get in the most obscure places. I don’t think any computer is immune to this. If it truly affects performance as described, I wonder how they’re going to try and prove it.
That fix doesn't work in many cases. It just as often gets sucked between the backlight and the LCD, which are taped together the whole way round but often with small gaps that correspond to where the dust accumulates - getting the dust out is such a nightmare that Apple dont even bother doing it they just replace the entire screen, LCD layer, backlight and all.

This is a definite known issue that Apple had at least 6-8 years to remedy. There are youtube videos running you through the gruelling process of attempting the cleaning yourself, it's not pretty. Totally pisses in my usually apple hardware quality evangelical breakfast.
 
Maybe, if this is a problem, that the people making this claim needed to keep their work area cleaner in the first place?

Dear Apple,

I live next to a dirt road and my Mac is being affected by it. I'm not responsible for what I may or may not do, so what are you going to do about it?
Yeah, except I live in a city...full of dust and constant construction. Even with ALL of my windows closed (to shut out the grime and noise) my windowsills still accumulate black fine dust weekly. I keep my apartment as close to dust-free as I can. Nine months out of the year my apartment is entirely climate controlled with filtered air. The only time I really let much outside air in is during the late spring and early fall.

Nevertheless, both of my last iMacs have suffered from this problem. The first was my early 2009 24" iMac. Exact same pattern of dust trails under the screen obviously following an airflow pattern. This became visible after roughly 2-ish years of owning the iMac.

I replaced that computer with a new iMac in 2013. Early 2013 27" iMac. This Mac lasted a shorter period of time before the dust trails became visible (or it seems that way to me), though the dust trails under the screen are not as severe as those on the 2009 model.

I have not addressed this because to drag this LARGE computer down to an Apple Store to be serviced will be a major pain, and a huge inconvenience in terms of not having a working computer for however long it takes to fix. And then the fix will only be temporary, as the problem will recur, since this is a design failure on the part of the illustrious Sir Jonny Ive. You would think that a TRILLION dollar company could manage to solve a simple heat and airflow problem—if they were at all interested in fixing it. Which they aren't. We're now at a decade of this problem existing in iMacs. Not only has Apple never acknowledged it (to my knowledge), but they have not changed the design to relieve this problem. It is very frustrating, as I love MacOS and Apple hardware. All of the above are in my opinion generally some of the best on the planet for my needs. I really don't want to get some other kind of computer, and I don't want a Mini with separate display. First of all—none of the new Minis even have a discrete Graphics card! Hobbled with Intel sh*t-crap 'graphics,' it's just insulting to be expected to shell out$1K+ for graphics performance equivalent to a cheap throwaway laptop! Add in the cost of external drives, a nice high-resolution monitor, etc, and I'm sure I'd be spending about the same as for a new iMac.

So I will probably just do what I did with the 2009 model, set this 2013 model aside as a 'backup' and purchase something new. I'm waiting to see what is coming next year. I feel that five years is OK in terms of lifespan for my desktop.

My 15" Retina MBP (2012) does not have any screen dust issues. But it gets far less use than my desktop, as I really only use the laptop when traveling or out of the office for several days in a row. What has happened though, and I'm curious if anyone else has this, at the opening point on the cover (where you place your hand to open the laptop), the small black binder/gasket/sealant has begun to wear away exactly where I place my fingers to open the laptop! I just noticed this last week.
 
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